[Khellros]

Hi,

The new price list is up at the German BMW site.
I read through the E92 price list and compared it to the old one.

The car prices are generally increased by 400-800 euros. The main difference compared to 2007 models is lower fuel consumption for nearly all models.

Summary:

*price increases
model +euros
320i +400
325i +900
330i +850
335i +350
320d +400
325d +850
330d +450
335d +200

*reduced fuel consumption (l/100km mixed driving)
model '07 '08
320i 6.3 6.3
325i 8.4 7.1
330i 8.8 7.2
335i 9.5 9.1
320d 4.9 4.8
325d 6.4 5.9
330d 6.5 6.1
335d 7.5(a) 6.7(a)

*some other observations:
-all models get brake energy regeneration
-all models except 335s get servotronic power steering
-320i gets milage gauge instead of oil temp gauge
-M sport package gets glacier silver aluminium trim instead of brushed aluminium trim
-bmw individual high end audio system option available (2100 euros)

[mkoesel]

-M sport package gets glacier silver aluminium trim instead of brushed aluminium trim

Any pics of this yet?

[Hula-Hula]

cool.. I think I'll wait for the 323d..

[Krill]

Originally Posted by Khellros

Hi,

The new price list is up at the German BMW site.
I read through the E92 price list and compared it to the old one.

The car prices are generally increased by 400-800 euros. The main difference compared to 2007 models is lower fuel consumption for nearly all models.

Summary:

*price increases
model +euros
320i +400
325i +900
330i +850
335i +350
320d +400
325d +850
330d +450
335d +200

*reduced fuel consumption (l/100km mixed driving)
model '07 '08
320i 6.3 6.3
325i 8.4 7.1
330i 8.8 7.2
335i 9.5 9.1
320d 4.9 4.8
325d 6.4 5.9
330d 6.5 6.1
335d 7.5(a) 6.7(a)

*some other observations:
-all models get brake energy regeneration
-all models except 335s get servotronic power steering
-320i gets milage gauge instead of oil temp gauge
-M sport package gets glacier silver aluminium trim instead of brushed aluminium trim
-bmw individual high end audio system option available (2100 euros)

Thanks for the info! Very interesting... I see that you have a 325d coupé on order which I am thinking of buying myself. Do you know if the 325d will get the upgraded autobox? The one in 335d/i and the 5er facelift...

[Khellros]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Any pics of this yet?

Try http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16508.

[Khellros]

Originally Posted by Krill

Thanks for the info! Very interesting... I see that you have a 325d coupé on order which I am thinking of buying myself. Do you know if the 325d will get the upgraded autobox? The one in 335d/i and the 5er facelift...

Sorry, don't know about this. I talked to my dealer this monday and he didn't know anything about the '08 models yet, so all info I have is from the new price list on the German site.

Anyway, if you're interested, here's the spec I ordered:
325d -- TiAg / Blue Shadow Cloth / Manual
M-sport package + Comfort package
Comfort Access + Adaptive Headlights + Digital Mirror Compass

[bavarian19]

I really like the glacier silver aluminum trim...


Seriously contemplating getting that for my E92 if it becomes available...

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Khellros

Try http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16508.

Wow, now that is some funky s**t. Not sure how I feel about it - would have to see it in person.

[theDude]

That aluminum reminds me of what Mercedes put into the C32 AMG. It's pretty cool in person.

[EDK99]

Originally Posted by Khellros

Hi,
The car prices are generally increased by 400-800 euros. The main difference compared to 2007 models is lower fuel consumption for nearly all models.

*reduced fuel consumption (l/100km mixed driving)
model '07 '08
320i 6.3 6.3
325i 8.4 7.1
330i 8.8 7.2
335i 9.5 9.1
320d 4.9 4.8
325d 6.4 5.9
330d 6.5 6.1
335d 7.5(a) 6.7(a)

I don't think the "real" fuel consumption is lower for 08 but just how BMW is calculating it. I know for the US the EPA has mandated for 08 revised MPG ratings to be in effect so all cars will see a slight lowering of MPG listed on the sticker. They are suppose to be closer to real world numbers.

[theDude]

Originally Posted by EK_335i

I don't think the "real" fuel consumption is lower for 08 but just how BMW is calculating it. I know for the US the EPA has mandated for 08 revised MPG ratings to be in effect so all cars will see a slight lowering of MPG listed on the sticker. They are suppose to be closer to real world numbers.

True...but if BMW is adding regenerative brakes...then shouldn't this offset the MPG revision at the very least?

[CrazyJ]

Great info.

They better add the regen brakes on the US versions. I will be very unhappy if not.

[EDK99]

Originally Posted by theDude

True...but if BMW is adding regenerative brakes...then shouldn't this offset the MPG revision at the very least?

Ok ignore my response. I was thinking of "lowered MPG" on the sticker due to the revised EPA standards and not "lowered fuel consumption" which means the engine is using less fuel. Duh!! Yeah regenerative brakes could be the cause for the "lowered fuel consumption".

[theDude]

Originally Posted by EK_335i

Ok ignore my response. I was thinking of "lowered MPG" on the sticker due to the revised EPA standards and not "lowered fuel consumption" which means the engine is using less fuel. Duh!! Yeah regenerative brakes could be the cause for the "lowered fuel consumption".

I'm digging the idea of lower fuel consumption

As long as the system doesn't add too much weight to the car

[Khellros]

I believe the fuel consumption savings are due to a set of innovations that BMW refers to as EfficientDynamics -- brake energy regeneration is part of this. Note that the 320 models already had these measures implemented for the '07 models, hence they show no significant fuel economy improvements for '08.

By the way, here's what BMW has to say about brake energy regeneration:

Brake Energy Regeneration.
Make use of every Watt: by charging the battery only when your BMW is braking, coasting or decelerating, Brake Energy Regeneration improves fuel efficiency by up to three percent and ensures that the full power of your engine is available for acceleration.

Today's vehicles require much more electrical energy than older models, due to the much wider array of electric and electronic on-board comfort and safety systems. This energy is created by the generator (also known as the alternator) which converts the engine's power output into electricity. In conventional systems, the generator is permanently driven by a belt connected to the engine. BMW's Brake Energy Regeneration operates differently: the generator is activated only when you take your foot from the accelerator or apply the brake. The kinetic energy that would otherwise go to waste is now used efficiently, converted into electricity by the generator and stored in the battery.
Producing electricity in this highly efficient way delivers an additional advantage: when you apply the accelerator, the generator is deactivated - so the full power of the engine can be directed to the drive wheels. Brake Energy Efficiency thus increases fuel efficiency while simultaneously enhancing driving dynamics. As a safety precaution, the Brake Energy Regeneration system monitors the level of battery charge and will, if necessary, continue to charge the battery even during acceleration to prevent a complete discharging of the battery.

[cipher5]

I wonder if it will directly transfer to US. If so, US 2008 335i will go up $484.

[otisdog]

Something's not quite right on the mileage (unless I'm not understanding it correctly). The 330i gas engine gets more than 30% better mileage than the diesel?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by otisdog

Something's not quite right on the mileage (unless I'm not understanding it correctly). The 330i gas engine gets more than 30% better mileage than the diesel?

In europe its fuel unit per distance, not distance per fuel unit like it is over here.

I.e. units is l/100km .

[Khellros]

Originally Posted by otisdog

Something's not quite right on the mileage (unless I'm not understanding it correctly). The 330i gas engine gets more than 30% better mileage than the diesel?

Converted to MPG, for your convenience:

model '07 '08
320i 37.3 37.3
325i 28.0 33.1
330i 26.7 32.7
335i 24.8 25.9
320d 48.0 49.0
325d 36.8 39.9
330d 36.2 38.6
335d 31.4 35.1

[otisdog]

Thanks, all! I obviously wasn't getting it!

[bavarian19]

Regenerative braking sounds awesome in concept, but I wonder how well it will hold up in really high temperatures (running the a/c) and really low temperatures (running heat and heated seats).

While Im sure BMW has engineered this well, I could see problems coming up down the line...

[BMW__Power]

If it is coming to the U.S. models I am surprised it was not mentioned in the MY2008 update. I would think this would be more important that chrome tips on a 328i.