Will The Dealer Do This For Me?

hl0m4n · 08-12-2007, 06:41 PM

my last oil change was at 5k sum miles. i now have close to 15k miles. i plan on going to MA for a day to go whale watching with the family. so by the end i will have about 15.5-16k miles.

looking at my cluster, my next oil change is at 20k miles. do you think after i come back from the trip i can ask the dealership to change my oil now instead at the 20k mark?

E90330iS · 08-12-2007, 06:46 PM

If your dealer is nice! Good luck though..

hl0m4n · 08-12-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by E90330iS

If your dealer is nice! Good luck though..

i need an oil change soon i guess lol. isn't the norm every 7-8k miles? my dealer charges $130 for an oil change at wide world. jmk does it for $99.

E90330iS · 08-12-2007, 06:52 PM

I say just get 7qts of Mobil 1 0W-40 ($45) and a oem oil filter from dealer ($10) and bring to a tune up shop and have them do it! That will run you $80 at most!

hl0m4n · 08-12-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by E90330iS

I say just get 7qts of Mobil 1 0W-40 ($45) and a oem oil filter from dealer ($10) and bring to a tune up shop and have them do it! That will run you $80 at most!

good point. but what is the purpose of the bmw service plan if i have to keep paying for my own oil changes? i think if i ask them to give it to me and reset the service it will take care of my 20k oil change

?

ward · 08-12-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hl0m4n

good point. but what is the purpose of the bmw service plan if i have to keep paying for my own oil changes? i think if i ask them to give it to me and reset the service it will take care of my 20k oil change

?

you don't have to pay for oil changes

BMW might have done some research as to how often the oil should be changed when they came up with the guidelines

Leesi · 08-12-2007, 07:34 PM

They wont do oil change unless it's 500 less or more than the number shown in the cluster. The car should get oil change every 15k miles. When you had 5k miles oil change, the system shouldn't be resetted. Assuming you're paying the oil change on your own since BMW wont allow you to do so in that mileage. But, it's resetted in 5k miles, adds that up with 15k will show you the next oil change period, 20k miles. I think it's OK to wait for your free oil change

DasBlitz · 08-12-2007, 07:58 PM

May I ask why you need it done early?

As Ward stated BMW is not some new start up company. They have been in the auto business for quite sometime. Just wait till it is needed.

Whoever has payed BMW to change their oil early really needs a slap in the face.

STE92VE · 08-12-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hl0m4n

do you think after i come back from the trip i can ask the dealership to change my oil now instead at the 20k mark?

You can ask the dealer anything you want....whether he will grant you your request is another matter.

STE92VE · 08-12-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hl0m4n

i need an oil change soon i guess lol. isn't the norm every 7-8k miles? my dealer charges $130 for an oil change at wide world. jmk does it for $99.

Haven't you been on this forum long enough to know what free scheduled maintenance means?

hl0m4n · 08-12-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBlitz

May I ask why you need it done early?

As Ward stated BMW is not some new start up company. They have been in the auto business for quite sometime. Just wait till it is needed.

Whoever has payed BMW to change their oil early really needs a slap in the face.

i just see people say on this forum the norm is 7-8k mile engine oil intervals and didn't jon@themshop post a thread about why not to wait for 15k oil change and it was like a spilling oil everywhere?

so the cluster oil change interval is a safe meter to follow by? thanks for the info on the +/-500 mile on cluster. didn't know that.

ward · 08-12-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hl0m4n

i just see people say on this forum the norm is 7-8k mile engine oil intervals and didn't jon@themshop post a thread about why not to wait for 15k oil change and it was like a spilling oil everywhere?

so the cluster oil change interval is a safe meter to follow by? thanks for the info on the +/-500 mile on cluster. didn't know that.

jon posted a bullcrap picture of a gunky engine without any backup as to why it was full of crud, that whole thread was garbage and old wives tales about oil.

e92man · 08-12-2007, 09:03 PM

hmmm i saw a thread awhile ago about someone that had a 200 323i and changed the oil every 15k. he took off the engine cover and it was disgusting. it was so nasty. thats why i am goen to chenge it every 3.5-4.5k miles.

ScottyGams · 08-12-2007, 09:11 PM

essex bmw does oil for 90

DasBlitz · 08-12-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hl0m4n

i just see people say on this forum the norm is 7-8k mile engine oil intervals and didn't jon@themshop post a thread about why not to wait for 15k oil change and it was like a spilling oil everywhere?

so the cluster oil change interval is a safe meter to follow by? thanks for the info on the +/-500 mile on cluster. didn't know that.

People on this forum also say young kids should not have a BMW. I believe you have stated you are young.

People on this forum have also stated you need to abide by the break in period which isnt fully true.

People on here also think the 335i is god.

Point is people on here can be retarded. So you are listening to them why? I will stick with BMW changing my oil, for free.

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Originally Posted by ward

jon posted a bullcrap picture of a gunky engine without any backup as to why it was full of crud, that whole thread was garbage and old wives tales about oil.

+1, I can post pictures too but without any background about it or exact details its just sensationalism.

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Originally Posted by e92man

hmmm i saw a thread awhile ago about someone that had a 200 323i and changed the oil every 15k. he took off the engine cover and it was disgusting. it was so nasty. thats why i am goen to chenge it every 3.5-4.5k miles.

ok maybe there was another issue though. Or maybe he did not use synthetic oil which BMW uses. There are many variables.

I can show you a picture of a car on fire. Does that mean you will start to carry a fire extinguisher?

hotrod2448 · 08-12-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ward

you don't have to pay for oil changes

BMW might have done some research as to how often the oil should be changed when they came up with the guidelines

I'm sure their accountants did some research too.

BMW bean counter:

Hey, if we double the service length we will only spend half of what we normally would on our "free" service. Engineering says it probably won't be a problem until long after the car is out of warranty. So, then we get the service work as well. Bonus!

Besides that they seem to have done so much research on the fuel pump, Ipod integration, and oil cooling system I'd totally trust them on the maintenance interval too, right?

but that's just my opinion and we all know what they say about opinions....

David 12 · 08-12-2007, 10:15 PM

Lease vs purchase may come into play with your decision. I am leasing so I will go with the manufacturer's guidelines; no more, no less.

Dave

dmboone25 · 08-12-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by David 12

Lease vs purchase may come into play with your decision. I am leasing so I will go with the manufacturer's guidelines; no more, no less.

Dave

+1

DasBlitz · 08-12-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod2448

I'm sure their accountants did some research too.

BMW bean counter:

Hey, if we double the service length we will only spend half of what we normally would on our "free" service. Engineering says it probably won't be a problem until long after the car is out of warranty. So, then we get the service work as well. Bonus!

Besides that they seem to have done so much research on the fuel pump, Ipod integration, and oil cooling system I'd totally trust them on the maintenance interval too, right?

but that's just my opinion and we all know what they say about opinions....

If you want to be cynical then think that way. But truthfully the synthetic oil they use is made for these intervals. You can purchase it yourself. It can be pricey but its made to last a while and be good.

But your right BMW probably is making it so my car shits out when warranty is over. Even though I bet they somehow work the cost into the price of the vehicle. But you must be right.

ward · 08-12-2007, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrod2448

I'm sure their accountants did some research too.

BMW bean counter:

Hey, if we double the service length we will only spend half of what we normally would on our "free" service. Engineering says it probably won't be a problem until long after the car is out of warranty. So, then we get the service work as well. Bonus!

Besides that they seem to have done so much research on the fuel pump, Ipod integration, and oil cooling system I'd totally trust them on the maintenance interval too, right?

but that's just my opinion and we all know what they say about opinions....

on the other side of the coin,

how would BMW look if a large percentage of their motors failed soon after warranty expiration? and how many people do you know or have you heard who have blown a stock motor up?

they've got a reputation to maintain

Orient330iNYC · 08-13-2007, 12:34 AM

Being the devil's advocate for a second: they are CPO'ing many of the off lease cars to 6yrs 100K miles. this is a fairly big revenue source for them.

They would be shooting themselves in the foot if their maintenance program caused engine failure in a few ways:
a) increased warranty costs for the CPO program (thus cutting into profit margin)
b) diminished residual value (which would kill the selling price of their CPOs). how many people would want a BMW if their cpo's were blowing engines left and right just out of warranty?

how many oil related engine failures (aside from the early E46 M3) have been documented for the E46? some of the earliest ones are now pushing 7-8 years old and probably 120+K miles.

That being said, I change the oil in my brother's 2001 330i ( my old car) twice a year at ~7500 miles. Costs me 45 bucks for parts, and it takes me about 15 minutes to do. drive up ramps, open plug, change filter, replace plug, fill with oil.

hotrod2448 · 08-13-2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ward

on the other side of the coin,

how would BMW look if a large percentage of their motors failed soon after warranty expiration? and how many people do you know or have you heard who have blown a stock motor up?

they've got a reputation to maintain

I'm not saying it causes a large percentage of failure but, I'm pretty sure that more cars that have their oil changed at 15-20K mile intervals will have a higher risk of failure and things like lifter tick than ones that have their oil changed more frequently.

Regarding the oil being made for these intervals. It's been shown the oil doesn't really break down as much as it gets dirty. Of course since we don't have dip sticks anymore you can't even see how black the oil is without draining it.

Anyway this has been discussed many times before, every one has their views on it and, we are way off topic now.

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