Clutch Advice ? N54 335xi

E36graduate · 01-31-2013, 09:59 PM

For the first time in 120,000 miles, it was very cold out and my clutch started to slip a little in 6th gear when the boost kicked in.....once it slipped, it then was fine. Did it again the other day for a second and then was grabbed fine.

Okay....looking to try and figure out which clutch is for me and I don't want to spend an arm and a leg on extra performance that I will never use, however I don't want to replace another clutch in a long time.

I don't race, I don't track, which is probably whey the original clutch made it to 120k, with about 1/2 of those miles with JB4, meth, etc..

Any clutch advice?

Anyone have a person in MA that can do the work with my assistance?

E36graduate · 01-31-2013, 10:00 PM

I even just had a few 2FbF codes the last week....LOL, when it rains it pours. I just picked up my replacement HPFP today and will tackle that before I tackle the clutch.

e92tt1986 · 01-31-2013, 10:38 PM

hpf stage 1

act is not good. Horrible engagement point

E36graduate · 01-31-2013, 10:49 PM

hpf stage 1....recommend a new flywheel?

e92tt1986 · 01-31-2013, 11:32 PM

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hpf stage 1....recommend a new flywheel?

Im not sure if they have one or not I know you can get it resurfaced or buy a new one. When the time comes I will probably get a new one with that clutch either stage 1 or 2 hpf

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 02-01-2013, 12:10 AM

You may find the Spec clutch stage 1 will fit your needs. It's not aggressive like the other cluthes but it will handle the extra power you have.

E36graduate · 02-01-2013, 07:06 AM

Resurface or install a new flywheel.....????? I've rear some horror stories of recent clutch installs and quick failures.

Rotorocious · 02-01-2013, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by E36graduate

Resurface or install a new flywheel.....????? I've rear some horror stories of recent clutch installs and quick failures.

Buy a new one don't risk it.
You can get a bmw oem one for ~800-900.
Or LuK makes a oem one as well that I got for around 450.
You can see the two on ecstunings site. I was able to order the luk at a local Carquest cheaper than ecstuning.

runthis · 02-01-2013, 10:43 AM

I resurfaced my flywheel. I have had ACT organic, and 6 puck. I liked the engagement of ACT better (Harder pedal feel). I have the HPF clutch now, it hold better power. But pedal feel is more like stock.

bigdaddycane · 02-01-2013, 11:03 AM

How far are you from TMS? The know BMWs but they're install prices might be high...

Envuks · 02-01-2013, 02:04 PM

I would recommend Banchwerks in Providence for the install. I get all my work done there. Very reasonable prices and great quality.

E36graduate · 02-01-2013, 03:41 PM

Did Banchwerks do your clutch Envuks?

Who installed your downpipes? Can you shoot me a rough idea of what they have done and a ball park price?

Joshboody · 02-01-2013, 04:17 PM

get a new FW... Luk was the OE in my car. My FW was shot at 75k when I pulled it... probably was bad way before then. 1 side lost its springiness, but still worked fine. I went with steel SM

psmitty95 · 02-01-2013, 11:52 PM

I'm also probably going to be looking into a clutch if mine dies soon. My goals would be handling more power while retaining a stock feel. Ideally i'd like it to handle my current power levels and more if I mod the car more. I definitey don't want the engagement point to be right at the floor though... I also wouldn't want a ridiculously stiff clutch. HPF feramic seems extremely nice but pretty expensive

E36graduate · 02-01-2013, 11:57 PM

sounds like a local clutch day somewhere convenient......Keep me posted on your research.....

psmitty95 · 02-02-2013, 12:15 AM

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sounds like a local clutch day somewhere convenient......Keep me posted on your research.....

Haha yea I'm gonna do some more research this weekend and i'll let you know if I come up with anything. Jeff recommended spec and i've heard great things about the Spec stage 2's but don't remember what people were saying regarding pedal feel, engagement, etc...

E36graduate · 02-02-2013, 08:55 AM

Banchwerks quoted me the Spec stage 2 and either an aluminum or steel flywheel system.

Envuks · 02-02-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by E36graduate

Did Banchwerks do your clutch Envuks?

Who installed your downpipes? Can you shoot me a rough idea of what they have done and a ball park price?

I haven't done a clutch on my e92, but they did a clutch for me on my old stg 3 A4. They did do my DPs and coilovers on the e92 though.

E36graduate · 02-03-2013, 12:25 PM

My neighbor quoted me $500 to do the job and he doesn't mind me watching/helping...more like standing there with a beer in my hand watching from under the lift....

He's done BMW clutches before, along with even working on NSX's...as he is a former Acura mechanic.

I'll get my clutch done up within 2 weeks and post a lot of pictures and write up. Still trying to figure out what system to install!!!

Szemenyei · 02-03-2013, 05:34 PM

I have a Spec Stage 3+ clutch and their new steel flywheel being installed this coming weekend in my XI.. I could let you know how it is once I am through breaking it in. My clutch finally died after 108,XXX miles. lol

I will also write a review once I get it all broken in.

E36graduate · 02-03-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Szemenyei

I have a Spec Stage 3+ clutch and their new steel flywheel being installed this coming weekend in my XI.. I could let you know how it is once I am through breaking it in. My clutch finally died after 108,XXX miles. lol

I will also write a review once I get it all broken in.

Guess your clutch failed a little earlier than mine due to your tune being Cobb.....LOL......kidding, I bet your cobb was only on for 20,000 miles!

Why were your reasons for going with the 3+........and what is the "new" steel flywheel...is it dual mass?

Szemenyei · 02-03-2013, 08:01 PM

Cobb was in the car for 64,000 of the miles.. The clutch is holding up and I still drive the car daily, it just isn't happy at all when I get on it with my 50/50 mix of e85.

01-31-2013, 09:59 PM	#1
E36graduate Lieutenant 62 Rep 514 Posts Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southeastern MASS iTrader: (0)	Clutch Advice ? N54 335xi For the first time in 120,000 miles, it was very cold out and my clutch started to slip a little in 6th gear when the boost kicked in.....once it slipped, it then was fine. Did it again the other day for a second and then was grabbed fine. Okay....looking to try and figure out which clutch is for me and I don't want to spend an arm and a leg on extra performance that I will never use, however I don't want to replace another clutch in a long time. I don't race, I don't track, which is probably whey the original clutch made it to 120k, with about 1/2 of those miles with JB4, meth, etc.. Any clutch advice? Anyone have a person in MA that can do the work with my assistance? __________________ 2008 335xi - 6MT - BMS JB4 G5i - BMS DCI - BMS OCC - BMS WW Meth - Spec Stage 2+ - Spec SMFW - 19" MVR Magnum's - KW V1's - TMS 12.5+20mm Spacers
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E36graduate Lieutenant 62 Rep 514 Posts Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southeastern MASS iTrader: (0)	I even just had a few 2FbF codes the last week....LOL, when it rains it pours. I just picked up my replacement HPFP today and will tackle that before I tackle the clutch. __________________ 2008 335xi - 6MT - BMS JB4 G5i - BMS DCI - BMS OCC - BMS WW Meth - Spec Stage 2+ - Spec SMFW - 19" MVR Magnum's - KW V1's - TMS 12.5+20mm Spacers
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e92tt1986 Lieutenant 35 Rep 407 Posts Drives: e92 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Greece iTrader: (3)	hpf stage 1 act is not good. Horrible engagement point
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E36graduate Lieutenant 62 Rep 514 Posts Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southeastern MASS iTrader: (0)	hpf stage 1....recommend a new flywheel? __________________ 2008 335xi - 6MT - BMS JB4 G5i - BMS DCI - BMS OCC - BMS WW Meth - Spec Stage 2+ - Spec SMFW - 19" MVR Magnum's - KW V1's - TMS 12.5+20mm Spacers
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02-01-2013, 12:10 AM	#6
Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3472 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	You may find the Spec clutch stage 1 will fit your needs. It's not aggressive like the other cluthes but it will handle the extra power you have.
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02-01-2013, 07:06 AM	#7
E36graduate Lieutenant 62 Rep 514 Posts Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southeastern MASS iTrader: (0)	Resurface or install a new flywheel.....????? I've rear some horror stories of recent clutch installs and quick failures. __________________ 2008 335xi - 6MT - BMS JB4 G5i - BMS DCI - BMS OCC - BMS WW Meth - Spec Stage 2+ - Spec SMFW - 19" MVR Magnum's - KW V1's - TMS 12.5+20mm Spacers
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02-01-2013, 10:43 AM	#9
runthis Lieutenant 47 Rep 573 Posts Drives: F82 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cincinnati iTrader: (1)	I resurfaced my flywheel. I have had ACT organic, and 6 puck. I liked the engagement of ACT better (Harder pedal feel). I have the HPF clutch now, it hold better power. But pedal feel is more like stock. __________________ 2015 F82 M4 - SOLD 2009 E92 335xi - SOLD
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02-01-2013, 02:04 PM	#11
Envuks Captain 26 Rep 741 Posts Drives: '08 e92 335xi Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: MA iTrader: (2)	I would recommend Banchwerks in Providence for the install. I get all my work done there. Very reasonable prices and great quality. __________________ Jet black e92 6mt 335xi: 18" BBS RGRs, KW v1, ESS Stage 2 flash, VRSF 7" FMIC, VRSF downpipes, JG Mods m-tech front, mtec V3 AEs, BMS OCC, hardwired valentine 1, p3cars gauge, amber delete, sport seats, factory oil cooler.
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E36graduate Lieutenant 62 Rep 514 Posts Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southeastern MASS iTrader: (0)	Did Banchwerks do your clutch Envuks? Who installed your downpipes? Can you shoot me a rough idea of what they have done and a ball park price? __________________ 2008 335xi - 6MT - BMS JB4 G5i - BMS DCI - BMS OCC - BMS WW Meth - Spec Stage 2+ - Spec SMFW - 19" MVR Magnum's - KW V1's - TMS 12.5+20mm Spacers
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02-01-2013, 04:17 PM	#13
Joshboody Lieutenant Colonel 66 Rep 1,708 Posts Drives: pickemuptruck Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (7)	get a new FW... Luk was the OE in my car. My FW was shot at 75k when I pulled it... probably was bad way before then. 1 side lost its springiness, but still worked fine. I went with steel SM
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psmitty95 Brigadier General 597 Rep 4,393 Posts Drives: '23 M340i xDrive Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (11)	I'm also probably going to be looking into a clutch if mine dies soon. My goals would be handling more power while retaining a stock feel. Ideally i'd like it to handle my current power levels and more if I mod the car more. I definitey don't want the engagement point to be right at the floor though... I also wouldn't want a ridiculously stiff clutch. HPF feramic seems extremely nice but pretty expensive __________________ < Click picture for photoshoot E90 335i xDrive 6spd, Nav, Prem, Cold Weather, & Sports package - Msport Conversion Mods: JB4 + MHD, Doc Race ST, Pure 6266, AD-Eng PI/Mounts, Fuel-It st. 3, Custom Exhaust, Tuned by TwistedTuning More Pictures: Build Thread /// 683AWHP/675AWTQ
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E36graduate Lieutenant 62 Rep 514 Posts Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southeastern MASS iTrader: (0)	sounds like a local clutch day somewhere convenient......Keep me posted on your research..... __________________ 2008 335xi - 6MT - BMS JB4 G5i - BMS DCI - BMS OCC - BMS WW Meth - Spec Stage 2+ - Spec SMFW - 19" MVR Magnum's - KW V1's - TMS 12.5+20mm Spacers
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02-02-2013, 08:55 AM	#17
E36graduate Lieutenant 62 Rep 514 Posts Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southeastern MASS iTrader: (0)	Banchwerks quoted me the Spec stage 2 and either an aluminum or steel flywheel system. __________________ 2008 335xi - 6MT - BMS JB4 G5i - BMS DCI - BMS OCC - BMS WW Meth - Spec Stage 2+ - Spec SMFW - 19" MVR Magnum's - KW V1's - TMS 12.5+20mm Spacers
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E36graduate Lieutenant 62 Rep 514 Posts Drives: 2013 335i M-Sport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southeastern MASS iTrader: (0)	My neighbor quoted me $500 to do the job and he doesn't mind me watching/helping...more like standing there with a beer in my hand watching from under the lift.... He's done BMW clutches before, along with even working on NSX's...as he is a former Acura mechanic. I'll get my clutch done up within 2 weeks and post a lot of pictures and write up. Still trying to figure out what system to install!!! __________________ 2008 335xi - 6MT - BMS JB4 G5i - BMS DCI - BMS OCC - BMS WW Meth - Spec Stage 2+ - Spec SMFW - 19" MVR Magnum's - KW V1's - TMS 12.5+20mm Spacers
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02-03-2013, 05:34 PM	#20
Szemenyei First Lieutenant 7 Rep 327 Posts Drives: Jet Black 335xi Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (1)	I have a Spec Stage 3+ clutch and their new steel flywheel being installed this coming weekend in my XI.. I could let you know how it is once I am through breaking it in. My clutch finally died after 108,XXX miles. lol I will also write a review once I get it all broken in. __________________ Current: 2018 F80 M3 Retired: 2013 B8.5 S4 Retired: 2007 e90 335xi Cobb Tuned e85 50/50, AFE Intake, VK Catless Downpipes, Spec Stage 3+ SMFW, ER CP w/ TIAL, Vanguard Exhaust (Custom Fit )
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Szemenyei First Lieutenant 7 Rep 327 Posts Drives: Jet Black 335xi Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (1)	Cobb was in the car for 64,000 of the miles.. The clutch is holding up and I still drive the car daily, it just isn't happy at all when I get on it with my 50/50 mix of e85. __________________ Current: 2018 F80 M3 Retired: 2013 B8.5 S4 Retired: 2007 e90 335xi Cobb Tuned e85 50/50, AFE Intake, VK Catless Downpipes, Spec Stage 3+ SMFW, ER CP w/ TIAL, Vanguard Exhaust (Custom Fit )
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