[BzzzBom]

Dinan's new ECU reflash software should be available within the next two months. There are several reasons why it will probably be less money than the currently available piggyback units: (1) It can only be used for one car unlike the piggybacks which can go from car to car (2) the power gains will be less than the piggybacks (3) Most of the available Dinan performace software for MINIs and BMWs cost $299.00 - $499.00 (4) There is no equipment such as boxes, wring harnesses, etc.

[gobo335i]

You make an interesting case. With the addition of a warranty, thats pretty appealing if you don't need stupid power.

[achien]

Originally Posted by BzzzBom

Dinan's new ECU reflash software should be available within the next two months. There are several reasons why it will probably be less money than the currently available piggyback units: (1) It can only be used for one car unlike the piggybacks which can go from car to car (2) the power gains will be less than the piggybacks (3) Most of the available Dinan performace software for MINIs and BMWs cost $299.00 - $499.00 (4) There is no equipment such as boxes, wring harnesses, etc.

Let us know when it is also available in Canada.

[Hallandale E92]

do we have any facts about this or just guesses

[HPIA4v2]

Originally Posted by Hallandale E92

do we have any facts about this or just guesses

Internet standard disclaimer, "I believe it when I see it" applies.

One note, I think in order to reflash, you need to send in the ECU box. so there maybe downtime unless you live near Dinan shop. right?

[BoostedBMW]

I think that most of the other Dinan flashes are in that price range because they do almost nothing IMO, the gains were always pretty small on all of the NA cars that they were made for. Since the 335 will be able to have some substancial gains from a flash I think that they would charge more for it. Just my opinion though since this is all speculative anyway.

[Hallandale E92]

Sounds good!

[dinkoh]

Originally Posted by BoostedBMW

I think that most of the other Dinan flashes are in that price range because they do almost nothing IMO, the gains were always pretty small on all of the NA cars that they were made for. Since the 335 will be able to have some substancial gains from a flash I think that they would charge more for it. Just my opinion though since this is all speculative anyway.

Anyone have actually info from the company? where did the two month time frame come from?

[RED FURY]

I'd be more than happy to test it, track it and dyno it !!!!

under warranty it is a no brainer mod IMO

[bnj]

Source?

[dawgdog]

My salesperson met with the Dinan rep last week and was informed the flash was forthcoming. My rep also felt it would not to too expensive, but we will see. If it was a dyno'd improvement of 40hp to the wheels I would consider it, as my dealership is an authorized Dinan dealer and it would save me hassles if something goes wrong. I'm just not inclined to add Procede and then lie if I have a problem. This means I would most likely be responsible for the major engine warranty.

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by Brisk

Dinan also told me that it will be EXTREMELY safe tune as the flash controls everything for the increase in power..
he also said to achieve 400hp u will have to change engine components for it to run 100% correctly and to LAST.

-lumi

that's the key words, to last....Dinan's not stupid, he's going to find the safest area in terms of increased power and with limited exposure from a warranty repair standpoint and that's what the offering will be. Yes, the offereing won't be what people are used to seeing but it's alot easier to offer stupid levels of power when you're not worried about having to fix other things that break under a warranty. That's the trade-off.

[dinkoh]

Originally Posted by dawgdog

My salesperson met with the Dinan rep last week and was informed the flash was forthcoming. My rep also felt it would not to too expensive, but we will see. If it was a dyno'd improvement of 40hp to the wheels I would consider it, as my dealership is an authorized Dinan dealer and it would save me hassles if something goes wrong. I'm just not inclined to add Procede and then lie if I have a problem. This means I would most likely be responsible for the major engine warranty.

I read in some post that BMW is cutting off its relationship with Dinan? Will they install this flash?

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by dinkoh

I read in some post that BMW is cutting off its relationship with Dinan? Will they install this flash?

It's a rumor that's been flying around, but no one has produced anything "official" yet. Plenty of BMW dealers are still listed as "DINAN AUTHORIZED BMW PERFORMANCE CENTERS" on his site.

[Mr. 5]

Originally Posted by BzzzBom

Dinan's new ECU reflash software should be available within the next two months. There are several reasons why it will probably be less money than the currently available piggyback units: (1) It can only be used for one car unlike the piggybacks which can go from car to car (2) the power gains will be less than the piggybacks (3) Most of the available Dinan performace software for MINIs and BMWs cost $299.00 - $499.00 (4) There is no equipment such as boxes, wring harnesses, etc.

The thing that sucks about this though is even if there is a 40hp gain then it will most likely be a 40 crank hp gain, and you cannot sell it to someone else afterwords like a piggy back or the TT.
I don't understand why anyone would bother with this, unless it is 40 wheel horse for 499. It might be worth it.

[radgator1]

I'm guessing 850.00-950.00 range to keep it just below the piggyback price. But if it comes in the 300-500 range I would be all over it.

[mesier1111]

Originally Posted by BzzzBom

Dinan's new ECU reflash software should be available within the next two months. There are several reasons why it will probably be less money than the currently available piggyback units: (1) It can only be used for one car unlike the piggybacks which can go from car to car (2) the power gains will be less than the piggybacks (3) Most of the available Dinan performace software for MINIs and BMWs cost $299.00 - $499.00 (4) There is no equipment such as boxes, wring harnesses, etc.

Talked to Dinan Certified Parts guy at my dealer, who happens to be a fairly larger Dinan Authorized Dealer. He seems to think based on what was said to him that they will offer a tuning package that includes upgrading the oil cooler/inter-cooler, software tune, suspension, etc.

Sounds like they are looking at the biggest enemy of the 335is= heat. If our cars barely stay cool with 8psi, what the hell you think is gonna happen when people run Procede V2 with 15lbs or whatever it puts out. Telling you, V2 is gonna blow up a car. Not now, now next year, but over the next few years more and more failures of various parts are gonna start creeping in. Dinan knows this, and knows that just because a car doesn't blow up now, doesn't mean it won't @ 70k, and they build cars to last as long as the car would have stock.

Just my .02

[mesier1111]

Originally Posted by dawgdog

My salesperson met with the Dinan rep last week and was informed the flash was forthcoming. My rep also felt it would not to too expensive, but we will see. If it was a dyno'd improvement of 40hp to the wheels I would consider it, as my dealership is an authorized Dinan dealer and it would save me hassles if something goes wrong. I'm just not inclined to add Procede and then lie if I have a problem. This means I would most likely be responsible for the major engine warranty.

This is how I think I am gonna go as well. My dealer treats me so well, I wouldn't want to get procede, have problems and then try to lie about it so my dealer/BMW gets screwed when they can't prove I modded my engine. Just isn't right. If you don't see whats wrong with that then you can't complain about missing oiler coolers or anything else we all bitched about that BMW did. Hence why BMW now includes oil coolers on all 335is with sports pckg, not just AT.

[roadkillrob]

$299-$499 is what they charge for the current reflashes for 5-8hp, trust me, they charge based on performance, not that it is the same amout of work, so it will more likely be closer to piggy back price, or basically what they think people are willing to pay for it. Also - don't forget that you have to pay to have it installed on top of that price - it's not DIY!

[Jim M3]

If you looked at the pictures from the Dinan post they show a larger oil cooler and intercooler. Heat is always the enemy in forced induction. Why people think running 14lbs of boost on a car with the stock components won't compromise these parts is out of their mind. Look at all the K03 failures in chipped S4's.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by mesier1111

Talked to Dinan Certified Parts guy at my dealer, who happens to be a fairly larger Dinan Authorized Dealer. He seems to think based on what was said to him that they will offer a tuning package that includes upgrading the oil cooler/inter-cooler, software tune, suspension, etc.

Sounds like they are looking at the biggest enemy of the 335is= heat. If our cars barely stay cool with 8psi, what the hell you think is gonna happen when people run Procede V2 with 15lbs or whatever it puts out. Telling you, V2 is gonna blow up a car. Not now, now next year, but over the next few years more and more failures of various parts are gonna start creeping in. Dinan knows this, and knows that just because a car doesn't blow up now, doesn't mean it won't @ 70k, and they build cars to last as long as the car would have stock.

Just my .02

My car has never been over 260 degrees F, and it usually runs at 240-245 degrees F in a very warm southern climate...and I do not have the add'l oil cooler (10/06 production). I'm not sure why you're such an alarmist regarding the PROcede. If I were keeping my car for 7+ years, I might be a little concerned for the long run, but that's not the case, so I'm not concerned at all. Eventually, things break on cars no matter what kind of stress is put upon them.

[mesier1111]

Originally Posted by sflgator

My car has never been over 260 degrees F, and it usually runs at 240-245 degrees F in a very warm southern climate...and I do not have the add'l oil cooler (10/06 production). I'm not sure why you're such an alarmist regarding the PROcede. If I were keeping my car for 7+ years, I might be a little concerned for the long run, but that's not the case, so I'm not concerned at all. Eventually, things break on cars no matter what kind of stress is put upon them.

So if tuning boosted cars without increasing cooling is not an issue, why the hell did the S4s start blowing?