[xxballinboi786]

i checked vishnutuning.com..i googled it...and i searched...the only answers i found were with cars that had other mods...so how much hp/torque does V2 add to an otherwise completely stock car?

[zenmaster]

If you searched, no doubt you found at least 5 other queries about this. For now, Vishnu is holding off on disclosing this information.

[Boostin335]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

If you searched, no doubt you found at least 5 other queries about this. For now, Vishnu is holding off on disclosing this information.

correctomundo

[scottp999]

360-380 HP at the whhels with 380 being the high end with at least a cat back if not full exhaust with downpipes. Torque at the wheels probably just over 400.

Just my guess from other posts I have read.

[satinghostrider]

you're 16 and you already want V2???

[xxballinboi786]

i dont want a V2 [as of now ]...im just curious with all the JBS2 vs PROcede threads going around...

[Tuned335i]

Originally Posted by xxballinboi786

i dont want a V2 [as of now ]...im just curious with all the JBS2 vs PROcede threads going around...

V2 is completely user-tunable in software so the actual amount of whp and whtq are variable. Over the next month or so people will post dyno charts of their V2 installations and we'll know exactly what the gains are. I don't think there is any dispute that V2 offers the most potential gain. You can decide for yourself if that's a good thing for you and your car or not (don't as the forum, because no-one knows.)

Those threads you talk about are comparing apples and oranges. A PROcede (any version) controls boost, ignition, and fuel, whereas the JBx raises boost in a static manner via a couple of wires and resistors. It doesn't control ignition or fuel which obviously you need to actually "tune" an engine. In fact, that's the definition of "tuning", controlling boost, fuel delivery, and timing.

What I am getting at is that raising boost is only part of the equasion. Doing it in a manner that optimizes the drivability of the car with the extra power requires a box from AA or Vishnu. As with most things in life, you get what you pay for.

...end of rant

[335iheLLraiseR]

for a thread started by Shiv and you will see a comparison between 1.47, stock and V2 with HP and TQ #s.

[xxballinboi786]

can you help me out and post a link?

[Sapphire135i]

Originally Posted by elmariachi

you're 16 and you already want V2???

I'm going to be 16 and definetly want v2, It's not always about using the full power all the time, but it's nice to know when you want it you have it there

[335iheLLraiseR]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

If you searched, no doubt you found at least 5 other queries about this. For now, Vishnu is holding off on disclosing this information.

Originally Posted by scottp999

360-380 HP at the whhels with 380 being the high end with at least a cat back if not full exhaust with downpipes. Torque at the wheels probably just over 400.

Just my guess from other posts I have read.

Originally Posted by xxballinboi786

can you help me out and post a link?

here you go:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65548

please remember that these are not final numbers, but are pretty close.

[BoostedBMW]

Originally Posted by Tuned335i

V2 is completely user-tunable in software so the actual amount of whp and whtq are variable. Over the next month or so people will post dyno charts of their V2 installations and we'll know exactly what the gains are. I don't think there is any dispute that V2 offers the most potential gain. You can decide for yourself if that's a good thing for you and your car or not (don't as the forum, because no-one knows.)

Those threads you talk about are comparing apples and oranges. A PROcede (any version) controls boost, ignition, and fuel, whereas the JBx raises boost in a static manner via a couple of wires and resistors. It doesn't control ignition or fuel which obviously you need to actually "tune" an engine. In fact, that's the definition of "tuning", controlling boost, fuel delivery, and timing.

What I am getting at is that raising boost is only part of the equasion. Doing it in a manner that optimizes the drivability of the car with the extra power requires a box from AA or Vishnu. As with most things in life, you get what you pay for.

...end of rant

+1 on the rant.

[sambonator]

Originally Posted by Tuned335i

...
Those threads you talk about are comparing apples and oranges. A PROcede (any version) controls boost, ignition, and fuel, whereas the JBx raises boost in a static manner via a couple of wires and resistors....

This is incorrect. JBS1 acts much like SSTT in that it only raises boost and relies on the ECU to correct the AFR. But JBS2 does increase the ratio of fuel to air in addition to raising boost.

[6Zylinder]

Originally Posted by xxballinboi786

i checked vishnutuning.com..i googled it...and i searched...the only answers i found were with cars that had other mods...so how much hp/torque does V2 add to an otherwise completely stock car?

Shiv once mentioned that he will keep torque at 380-390max. with V2.
Its not how much HP it delivers, its how the V2 delivers it. Maybe in a very progressive way. He also mentioned at 6500rpm there is an additional 40-50HP!
Lets wait and see.

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by sambonator

This is incorrect. JBS1 acts much like SSTT in that it only raises boost and relies on the ECU to correct the AFR. But JBS2 does increase the ratio of fuel to air in addition to raising boost.

This is shown in the AFR ratios in Mr. 5's dyno tests......

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...de+turbo+tuner

[OpenFlash]

With v2, the user can dial in their own torque curve. Set to max (100%) and on 93oct, its possible to see over 400lbft of torque at the wheels on an otherwise stock 335. With the default settings (80-85%), expect to see output restricted to 370-380lbft. At 70-75%, you'll see approx 350lbft.

-shiv

[Boostin335]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

With v2, the user can dial in their own torque curve. Set to max (100%) and on 93oct, its possible to see over 400lbft of torque at the wheels on an otherwise stock 335. With the default settings (80-85%), expect to see output restricted to 370-380lbft. At 70-75%, you'll see approx 350lbft.

-shiv

shiv is there a reason behind the default setting of 80-85% and not the default setting of 95-100?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Boostin335

shiv is there a reason behind the default setting of 80-85% and not the default setting of 95-100?

Because most people don't need, want or are willing to accept the risk when it comes to supporting 400+lbft of torque. This requires good 93oct, not 91oct. Trying to support this output level on 91oct may be tough given the variance in gas quality we see here in CA. It's also hell on clutches. Especially in the hands of people who aren't familiar with the term "mechanical empathy"

shiv

[Serjames]

Interesting stuff... can someone remind me what this would mean for us Britishers running Shell Vmax fuel at 100 ron ? (or tesco 99 special!?)

i.e. what does 85% look like at 100 ron
VS
100% at 100 ron ?

Sorry I'm sure it's been asked before (probably by me !) but I couldn't see it

SJ

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by Serjames

Interesting stuff... can someone remind me what this would mean for us Britishers running Shell Vmax fuel at 100 ron ? (or tesco 99 special!?)

i.e. what does 85% look like at 100 ron
VS
100% at 100 ron ?

Sorry I'm sure it's been asked before (probably by me !) but I couldn't see it

SJ

I dont think you'll have an exact answer on that until someone in Europe dyno's their car w/ V2 and changes the settings around.

We dont have that fuel here in the US.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Because most people don't need, want or are willing to accept the risk when it comes to supporting 400+lbft of torque. This requires good 93oct, not 91oct. Trying to support this output level on 91oct may be tough given the variance in gas quality we see here in CA. It's also hell on clutches. Especially in the hands of people who aren't familiar with the term "mechanical empathy"

shiv

So, Shiv, would you recommend that for us folks running exclusively on 93 octane (Mobil or Shell) go for the max 100% power on v2.0 or maybe scale it down just a bit to say 90%? I certainly don't want my ZF 6AT tranny to go up in smoke from too much TQ stress, but I also want max HP/TQ that's usable (without excessive wheel/tire spin at launch) out of my PROcede v2.0; I mean that is the point of all this.

[Boostin335]

Originally Posted by sflgator

So, Shiv, would you recommend that for us folks running exclusively on 93 octane (Mobil or Shell) go for the max 100% power on v2.0 or maybe scale it down just a bit to say 90%?

good question. I am in NJ and have good 93 octane.



+1 all the way.

:rocks:


btw sflgator, did you notice anything after the ITG filter?