Bmw 335 vs merc sl 55 amg stock

bmwm3redblack · 05-20-2013, 01:50 PM

Hi guys i wanna race sl55 amg stock. my car is 2008 335xi cope 6spm cobb ap stage 1 93 octane agressive.
Anyone raced against sl 55 amg???
What are my chances on 1/4 mile run???

Da Dark Knight · 05-20-2013, 01:54 PM

I would say you will get wasted, sl55 amg is no joke.

bmwm3redblack · 05-20-2013, 02:02 PM

So i have no chance even on 1/4 mile run awd vs rwd manual vs auto???

Da Dark Knight · 05-20-2013, 02:11 PM

nah man, thats v8 and amg is a wild beast. My cuz had c63 amg and that thing was a handful and besides your manual loses a bit of boost compared to auto if I am not mistaken

135Pats · 05-20-2013, 02:12 PM

It makes some pretty monster power numbers (500 or so crank horsepower), but is also held back by some serious curb weight (over 4,300lbs). TBH I don't know how fast Stg1 aggressive cars run the 1/4 in, but I would say you're probably in trouble. I doubt the Merc would walk away, but it's likely faster.

Edit: and you're an XI so you're seeing greater drivetrain loss, yea I doubt you'd win this one. All the AMGs make pretty beastly power.

bmwm3redblack · 05-20-2013, 02:17 PM

ok i got you. And what about stage2+fmic is any chance???

dicostal · 05-20-2013, 02:18 PM

I raced one and basically the sl55 amg was a bit faster with tune only.
I was about even with DP and intake + tune, and faster with intercooler and GIAC Stage II

135Pats · 05-20-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwm3redblack

ok i got you. And what about stage2+fmic is any chance???

FBO you should beat it, your car is lighter and the power difference isn't as steep. In fact your wtq is probably in the same ballpark at that point.

ken1137 · 05-20-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwm3redblack

ok i got you. And what about stage2+fmic is any chance???

Doesn't look like you are FBO, so still no chance. I recall some 135 owners with Stage II and FBO were up to 405 whp.

bmwm3redblack · 05-20-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ken1137

Doesn't look like you are FBO, so still no chance. I recall some 135 owners with Stage II and FBO were up to 405 whp.

I am not fbo for now but planning to be ib month time so that's why i'm asking, don't want to be dissappointed!!!

bmwm3redblack · 05-20-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dicostal

I raced one and basically the sl55 amg was a bit faster with tune only.
I was about even with DP and intake + tune, and faster with intercooler and GIAC Stage II

So if i would be fbo i should be faster?

Da Dark Knight · 05-20-2013, 02:50 PM

oh man lol I would like to see the results though

135Pats · 05-20-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwm3redblack

I am not fbo for now but planning to be ib month time so that's why i'm asking, don't want to be dissappointed!!!

FBO you should feel pretty good about that matchup, add meth and/or E85 mixtures and I gotta think you'd win comfortably. These motors are extremely octane hungry as you up the timing and boost.

dicostal · 05-20-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwm3redblack

So if i would be fbo i should be faster?

YEAH, I am FBO with GIAC stage II and I am faster, not a whole lot but i am able to pull away...

I don't use nor like meth

zeel · 05-20-2013, 03:22 PM

Stock one yes. A modded one it gets tricky.

09BMW335i · 05-20-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 135Pats

FBO you should feel pretty good about that matchup, add meth and/or E85 mixtures and I gotta think you'd win comfortably. These motors are extremely octane hungry as you up the timing and boost.

Was just going to say the same thing. E85/Meth in the mid range will compete and or beat most cars.

You for sure need to get all your FBO in place first to even make a run.

marv85 · 05-20-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwm3redblack

So if i would be fbo i should be faster?

FBO on stage 2+ agg should be faster.

I would go FBO, then fill with E85 or 100octane race gas and load the race map, then you are comfortably faster

stoes · 05-20-2013, 04:56 PM

I raced the v12 supercharged one and beat him. His car was tuned and had like 700 lbs torque! He was at a local performance shop that I was at. I rode in his car and seemed pretty quick. We raced from 20 to 100 and I beat him by a car length. Not sure about a quarter mile, I was really surprised I beat him, he was pissed and wouldnt pull over to even talk afterwards. Im g5 with 40% e85 and DP's...

stoes · 05-20-2013, 04:59 PM

Funny side note, before we raced he asked me what was the difference between the 335i and the 328 bmw. As if my car was just an afterthought in terms of speed. He was a rich kid, his other car is the corvette Z51. Needless to say beating a spoiled rich kid who was basically mocking my car made my day!

135Pats · 05-20-2013, 05:06 PM

It is most excellent that you were able to shut that kid up, but TBH if you beat an SL65 from a roll, the driver must have been mistaking the brake for the throttle. No way in hell a stock turbo, OE FMIC, non-meth E9x is pulling on one of those monsters. They have overwhelming amounts of tq, and seriously brush against supercar performance figures. But that really is an awesome kill either way, now he'll learn what N54s can do.

Chrisred · 05-20-2013, 05:52 PM

I took a c63 twice in a row at the track. FBO without meth at the time. I'm an xi. 93 octane.

bmwm3redblack · 05-20-2013, 06:33 PM

Thanks for you answers guys . So as far as i get i should be fine with stage2+ agressive.
But for 100% sure i need e85 or race gas or meth

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bmwm3redblack Captain 64 Rep 886 Posts Drives: BMW ///M3 E46, BMW E92 335Xi Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: e13 osl iTrader: (0)	Bmw 335 vs merc sl 55 amg stock Hi guys i wanna race sl55 amg stock. my car is 2008 335xi cope 6spm cobb ap stage 1 93 octane agressive. Anyone raced against sl 55 amg??? What are my chances on 1/4 mile run??? __________________ Bmw 335xi/FBO/ black on black/ 6sp manual/Cobb AP/BMS DCI/AA BOV KIT/VRSF DP'S/VRSF 7'FMIC /FULLY CATLESS/H&R sport springs/ 19' ac schnitzer wheels.
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Da Dark Knight Batman 2 Rep 52 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2013 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I would say you will get wasted, sl55 amg is no joke.
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bmwm3redblack Captain 64 Rep 886 Posts Drives: BMW ///M3 E46, BMW E92 335Xi Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: e13 osl iTrader: (0)	So i have no chance even on 1/4 mile run awd vs rwd manual vs auto??? __________________ Bmw 335xi/FBO/ black on black/ 6sp manual/Cobb AP/BMS DCI/AA BOV KIT/VRSF DP'S/VRSF 7'FMIC /FULLY CATLESS/H&R sport springs/ 19' ac schnitzer wheels.
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Da Dark Knight Batman 2 Rep 52 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2013 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	nah man, thats v8 and amg is a wild beast. My cuz had c63 amg and that thing was a handful and besides your manual loses a bit of boost compared to auto if I am not mistaken
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135Pats Major General 461 Rep 6,478 Posts Drives: A few BMWs Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland iTrader: (3)	It makes some pretty monster power numbers (500 or so crank horsepower), but is also held back by some serious curb weight (over 4,300lbs). TBH I don't know how fast Stg1 aggressive cars run the 1/4 in, but I would say you're probably in trouble. I doubt the Merc would walk away, but it's likely faster. Edit: and you're an XI so you're seeing greater drivetrain loss, yea I doubt you'd win this one. All the AMGs make pretty beastly power. __________________ E88 N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Motiv HTA 3586r Tial .82AR/Other stuff...652WHP F30 N55 XDrive EBII
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bmwm3redblack Captain 64 Rep 886 Posts Drives: BMW ///M3 E46, BMW E92 335Xi Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: e13 osl iTrader: (0)	ok i got you. And what about stage2+fmic is any chance??? __________________ Bmw 335xi/FBO/ black on black/ 6sp manual/Cobb AP/BMS DCI/AA BOV KIT/VRSF DP'S/VRSF 7'FMIC /FULLY CATLESS/H&R sport springs/ 19' ac schnitzer wheels.
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dicostal Lieutenant 55 Rep 495 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Italian in CT - USA iTrader: (0)	I raced one and basically the sl55 amg was a bit faster with tune only. I was about even with DP and intake + tune, and faster with intercooler and GIAC Stage II __________________ GIAC stage II\|AA DP\|AA Charge pipe and BOV\|AFE S2 Intake\|HELIX FMIC
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Da Dark Knight Batman 2 Rep 52 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2013 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	oh man lol I would like to see the results though
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stoes Private First Class 45 Rep 167 Posts Drives: 2010 e92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: houston iTrader: (0)	I raced the v12 supercharged one and beat him. His car was tuned and had like 700 lbs torque! He was at a local performance shop that I was at. I rode in his car and seemed pretty quick. We raced from 20 to 100 and I beat him by a car length. Not sure about a quarter mile, I was really surprised I beat him, he was pissed and wouldnt pull over to even talk afterwards. Im g5 with 40% e85 and DP's... __________________ 2010 e92 M3
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stoes Private First Class 45 Rep 167 Posts Drives: 2010 e92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: houston iTrader: (0)	Funny side note, before we raced he asked me what was the difference between the 335i and the 328 bmw. As if my car was just an afterthought in terms of speed. He was a rich kid, his other car is the corvette Z51. Needless to say beating a spoiled rich kid who was basically mocking my car made my day! __________________ 2010 e92 M3
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135Pats Major General 461 Rep 6,478 Posts Drives: A few BMWs Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland iTrader: (3)	It is most excellent that you were able to shut that kid up, but TBH if you beat an SL65 from a roll, the driver must have been mistaking the brake for the throttle. No way in hell a stock turbo, OE FMIC, non-meth E9x is pulling on one of those monsters. They have overwhelming amounts of tq, and seriously brush against supercar performance figures. But that really is an awesome kill either way, now he'll learn what N54s can do. __________________ E88 N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Motiv HTA 3586r Tial .82AR/Other stuff...652WHP F30 N55 XDrive EBII
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Chrisred Captain 81 Rep 788 Posts Drives: BMW 335xi coupe Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Montreal, Canada iTrader: (0)	I took a c63 twice in a row at the track. FBO without meth at the time. I'm an xi. 93 octane. __________________ JB4 Trebila tuned cp-e IC AMS exhaust BMS DCI AR DP's METH RB TURBO 19" VMR VB3 Stoptech BBK TC KLINE VORSHLAG SPEC STG 3 OSS design
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bmwm3redblack Captain 64 Rep 886 Posts Drives: BMW ///M3 E46, BMW E92 335Xi Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: e13 osl iTrader: (0)	Thanks for you answers guys . So as far as i get i should be fine with stage2+ agressive. But for 100% sure i need e85 or race gas or meth __________________ Bmw 335xi/FBO/ black on black/ 6sp manual/Cobb AP/BMS DCI/AA BOV KIT/VRSF DP'S/VRSF 7'FMIC /FULLY CATLESS/H&R sport springs/ 19' ac schnitzer wheels.
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