is 80-100hp mods safe for my 335i xdrive?

fireman02169 · 08-27-2013, 09:08 PM

I have an '09 335i with xdrive.
im sure this has been discussed, forgive me im a new member... but is it safe for my car with 75,000 miles on it? can the xdrive drivetrain handle it ok? Im thinking about doing the JB4 stage 3 with twin cone intake. Should i consider anything else? BOV? Intercooler? new piping for the turbos?
Any advice would be appreciated
xoxo

infinitigor · 08-27-2013, 09:47 PM

just don't launch the car

Deep_Blue · 08-27-2013, 09:52 PM

Intercooler is a great mod. You may have a bit more trouble with downpipes because of the extra mechanicals in the area.

Xi will handle the power ok, just dont powerbreak launch the car as infinitigor said

idrift4wd · 08-27-2013, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinitigor

just don't launch the car

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep_Blue

Intercooler is a great mod. You may have a bit more trouble with downpipes because of the extra mechanicals in the area.

Xi will handle the power ok, just dont powerbreak launch the car as infinitigor said

why not launch? or brake boost xi?

just wondering.

infinitigor · 08-27-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by idrift4wd

why not launch? or brake boost xi?

just wondering.

just don't do it often. it is HIGHLY stressful on the transmission

Deep_Blue · 08-27-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by idrift4wd

why not launch? or brake boost xi?

just wondering.

When you powerbrake a RWD car the rear wheels break traction easily. AWD has better traction since the power is being split four ways, but its much more wear on the transmission since you arent going to have much (if any) wheelspin. The force that would go to turning rear tires into smoke is going to screwing up your transmission. Talking here about an autobox. Lots of Audi and GTR guys will dump the clutch at high RPMs to launch. I'm not an expert, just speaking from my experience.

idrift4wd · 08-27-2013, 10:10 PM

^^ Makes sense, thanks guys.

idspeedskater · 08-28-2013, 10:35 AM

There's also the question of how strong our transfer case really is, but most of us with high HP Xis aren't in the habit of launching ever. Other than that one concern, yes, the xi can handle the extra power.

BoostAddict · 08-28-2013, 11:44 AM

The xi's seem strong so far. Like others stated, I wouldn't be the one to launch it aggressively.

Johnny Boost · 08-28-2013, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireman02169

I have an '09 335i with xdrive.
im sure this has been discussed, forgive me im a new member... but is it safe for my car with 75,000 miles on it? can the xdrive drivetrain handle it ok? Im thinking about doing the JB4 stage 3 with twin cone intake. Should i consider anything else? BOV? Intercooler? new piping for the turbos?
Any advice would be appreciated
xoxo

To answer your questions directly, the JB4 and dual cone intakes should be fine on your car. I would do more research on all of the tuning options to make sure that you get the best one for your needs. AFAIK the BOVs are a waste of money. A front-mounted intercooler is a very common, useful mod and a lot of people will recommend upgrading your charge pipe if you are running higher boost.

Envuks · 08-28-2013, 12:25 PM

I have never launched my car for what it's worth

BEAR-AvHistory · 08-28-2013, 12:28 PM

FMIC is something I believe everyone should do even pure stock. Most of the rest you listed is just visual & aural entertainment

-Wingman- · 08-28-2013, 12:44 PM

Lol, am I the only guy here that loves launching the hell out of their car?

Dosturbos · 08-30-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by -Wingman-

Lol, am I the only guy here that loves launching the hell out of their car?

Not at all man, nothing beats an XI launch, I took my car to the drag strip, launching all night long. It was the shit.

LQQKOUT · 08-30-2013, 09:50 PM

My XI constantly pulls 1.6 60' times with no issues yet. Did this in my 535XI running low 12s and now my 335XI running high 11s.
Stop babying your cars and start enjoying them!

Jeffman · 08-30-2013, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fireman02169

I have an '09 335i with xdrive.
im sure this has been discussed, forgive me im a new member... but is it safe for my car with 75,000 miles on it? can the xdrive drivetrain handle it ok? Im thinking about doing the JB4 stage 3 with twin cone intake. Should i consider anything else? BOV? Intercooler? new piping for the turbos?
Any advice would be appreciated
xoxo

I have a 2008 pro-tuned Cobb Stage 1+ (FMIC and DCI) running 40% ethanol with the kind of extra power you are referring to. No problems!

SaviorXi · 09-02-2013, 11:28 PM

I have had a 2008xi and now have an 09 xDrive and I turn off traction control and brake boost all the time. If you care about your 0-60 and 1/4 mile times then you must brake boost launch. The only people that have had trouble that I have seen had to do with launching in 2nd gear and the issue was automatic transmission related. I have no idea how the launching is with a manual tranny is since I have an auto. (auto brake boost is about 2500rpm's) I would imagine if manual guys launch at 5,000 rpm's it would put more strain on the differential and if done incorrectly you will blow through clutches and flywheels often. Any racing and aftermarket upgrades are going to put more stress and effect longevity. You have to be aware of the risk and be willing to pay to play.

v1nc86 · 09-04-2013, 08:46 AM

I've a 2008 xi and I do brake boost all the time. Love it

No issue so far... Doing 1.6-1.7 60 foot

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Deep_Blue First Lieutenant 73 Rep 374 Posts Drives: Montego 335i e90 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: internet iTrader: (1)	Intercooler is a great mod. You may have a bit more trouble with downpipes because of the extra mechanicals in the area. Xi will handle the power ok, just dont powerbreak launch the car as infinitigor said
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idrift4wd Brigadier General 151 Rep 3,549 Posts Drives: Three Hundred and Thirty Five Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Yonkers NY iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW [7.00]	^^ Makes sense, thanks guys. __________________ 12.0 @ 117
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idspeedskater Idaho Transplant 19 Rep 178 Posts Drives: 2007 335xi Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Redwood City, CA iTrader: (0)	There's also the question of how strong our transfer case really is, but most of us with high HP Xis aren't in the habit of launching ever. Other than that one concern, yes, the xi can handle the extra power. __________________ 07 335xi Monaco Blue \| FFTEC/Vishnu Single Turbo \| Procede Rev 3 \| Spec Stage 2+ Clutch \| Spec Aluminum Flywheel \| ETS FMIC \| HKS Legamax Exhaust \| Vishnu PWM Meth - 2014 e63s wagon \| W3 Weistec tune/turbo upgrade
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BoostAddict Banned 48 Rep 932 Posts Drives: SGM 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Boynton Beach, FL iTrader: (4)	The xi's seem strong so far. Like others stated, I wouldn't be the one to launch it aggressively.
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Envuks Captain 26 Rep 741 Posts Drives: '08 e92 335xi Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: MA iTrader: (2)	I have never launched my car for what it's worth __________________ Jet black e92 6mt 335xi: 18" BBS RGRs, KW v1, ESS Stage 2 flash, VRSF 7" FMIC, VRSF downpipes, JG Mods m-tech front, mtec V3 AEs, BMS OCC, hardwired valentine 1, p3cars gauge, amber delete, sport seats, factory oil cooler.
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LQQKOUT Lieutenant 104 Rep 416 Posts Drives: 335XI Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United States iTrader: (4)	My XI constantly pulls 1.6 60' times with no issues yet. Did this in my 535XI running low 12s and now my 335XI running high 11s. Stop babying your cars and start enjoying them!
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SaviorXi Lieutenant 26 Rep 578 Posts Drives: 2009 335i xDrive coupe Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Dirty South Jersey iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 335i Xdrive Coupe [10.00]	I have had a 2008xi and now have an 09 xDrive and I turn off traction control and brake boost all the time. If you care about your 0-60 and 1/4 mile times then you must brake boost launch. The only people that have had trouble that I have seen had to do with launching in 2nd gear and the issue was automatic transmission related. I have no idea how the launching is with a manual tranny is since I have an auto. (auto brake boost is about 2500rpm's) I would imagine if manual guys launch at 5,000 rpm's it would put more strain on the differential and if done incorrectly you will blow through clutches and flywheels often. Any racing and aftermarket upgrades are going to put more stress and effect longevity. You have to be aware of the risk and be willing to pay to play.
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v1nc86 Captain 23 Rep 633 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0)	I've a 2008 xi and I do brake boost all the time. Love it No issue so far... Doing 1.6-1.7 60 foot __________________ YouTube \| 335xi Best 1/4 mile: 12.3@110 MPH \| 335xi Top speed: 0-270 kph (165+ mph)
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