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I had good results with Meguiar's DA microfiber system a few months ago. I used the compound and the wax that came with the kit.

Last week I did a typical wash with two buckets and then used the finishing pad from the Meguiar's kit with Collinite No. 476S Super Doublecoat Auto Wax.
Now I am starting to notice some haze in direct sunlight that I had not noticed prior to using this combo. The finishing pad was unused and clean.

Should I not have used the Collinite paste wax with that pad? Should I use only more liquid waxes with the DA microfiber finishing pad? What went wrong?

[Otruba_843]

The DA microfiber pads in general should only be used for compounding and polishing. The only reason you use the finishing pad with the wax from the Meg's kit is because the wax you are referring to is actually a polish to remove the haze from the compounding step. It just has a little bit of wax added to it. 476 is best applied by hand, as are most paste waxes. I only use my DA to compound, polish, and apply sealants or liquid waxes. For liquid waxes and sealants, use a foam finishing pad with no cut. The Microfiber pads are way too aggressive to use for applying a wax.

[acdHQK713K]

Originally Posted by Otruba_843

The DA microfiber pads in general should only be used for compounding and polishing. The only reason you use the finishing pad with the wax from the Meg's kit is because the wax you are referring to is actually a polish to remove the haze from the compounding step. It just has a little bit of wax added to it. 476 is best applied by hand, as are most paste waxes. I only use my DA to compound, polish, and apply sealants or liquid waxes. For liquid waxes and sealants, use a foam finishing pad with no cut. The Microfiber pads are way too aggressive to use for applying a wax.

Thanks for the response. That makes sense.

So will the finishing pad from the DA microfiber kit with the finishing wax from the kit be enough to correct the issue, or do I need to repeat the entire process including compounding?

What foam pad do you recommend for applying liquid waxes?

[Otruba_843]

Originally Posted by Stangorang

Thanks for the response. That makes sense.

So will the finishing pad from the DA microfiber kit with the finishing wax from the kit be enough to correct the issue, or do I need to repeat the entire process including compounding?

What foam pad do you recommend for applying liquid waxes?

When you say haze, are you talking about swirls or the paint is fogging up like a window would when it is humid out.

[acdHQK713K]

Originally Posted by Otruba_843

When you say haze, are you talking about swirls or the paint is fogging up like a window would when it is humid out.

Haze from fine swirls. Like tons of spider webs on the paint. No fogging of the paint when it is humid out.

These were definitely not present before I did the Collinite and DA microfiber pad combo.

[psnt1ol]

Originally Posted by Stangorang

Haze from fine swirls. Like tons of spider webs on the paint. No fogging of the paint when it is humid out.

These were definitely not present before I did the Collinite and DA microfiber pad combo.

Your paint was marred by the MF pads. The maring will come out but unfortunately..... you have to buff out the entire car again. Try using the finishing wax and the finishing MF pad first.

A polish like Menzerna PF 2500 or Meg M205 will definitely take them out. You will get better result (in this case) with a foam light polishing pad than a MF pad since foam seems to finish much better than MF. After this, apply the Collinite paste wax with a foam finishing pad.

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Originally Posted by psnt1ol

Your paint was marred by the MF pads. The maring will come out but unfortunately..... you have to buff out the entire car again. Try using the finishing wax and the finishing MF pad first.

A polish like Menzerna PF 2500 or Meg M205 will definitely take them out. You will get better result (in this case) with a foam light polishing pad than a MF pad since foam seems to finish much better than MF. After this, apply the Collinite paste wax with a foam finishing pad.

So is it safe to say the MF cutting pad and the MF finishing pad that comes with the Meguiar's DA microfiber kit should only be used with the compound and the finishing wax provided with the kit? I thought the finishing pad was the the same as any other finishing pad, but it looks like I am mistaken.

[psnt1ol]

Originally Posted by Stangorang

So is it safe to say the MF cutting pad and the MF finishing pad that comes with the Meguiar's DA microfiber kit should only be used with the compound and the finishing wax provided with the kit? I thought the finishing pad was the the same as any other finishing pad, but it looks like I am mistaken.

These items were designed as a total system. This system was originally targeted to a production style of detailing. MF pads generally are too aggressive for applying a wax/sealant. The MF finishing pads could be use with D300 for times when compounding is too much and light polishing is simply not enough. Many in the detailing world use the Meg MF pads with other polishes and compounds with much successes. The same goes for D300 with other brands of MF pads.

I use D300 with Optimum or B&S MF pads quite a bit to compound but I generally finish down (if needed) with a light polish such as Menzerna SF4000 on a foam pad. The D301 finishing wax just wasn't for me. I tend to apply most of my LSPs (such as Colinite 845, JetSeal, PowerLock, CG 50/50) with a PC on a foam finishing pad. I find this method to be the most efficient.