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      09-26-2013, 01:48 PM   #1
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Car in shop for 2 months- hope no one needs an oil pan

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Just a heads up. My D has been in the shop for over two months because the oil pan is back ordered. The dealer stripped the pan and they ordered a new one. We found out BMW is back ordered and they wont' start shipping until November. I have a loaner. Just a heads up- hope no one else needs an oil pan because you're screwed if you do.
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      09-26-2013, 02:40 PM   #2
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So judging from your sig, your loaner is a Pinto? Gonna be a rough October for you my friend.
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      09-26-2013, 02:44 PM   #3
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they stripped it doing an oil change I assume?

I never understood how people who probably do 50 oil changes a week end up making mistakes like this. Price for an oil pan is listed over $400
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      09-26-2013, 02:47 PM   #4
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what do you mean by stripped? If the drain plug threads are stripped they can repair it with a threaded steel insert, it will be better than new.

http://www.timesert.com/html/drainplug.html
http://www.cgenterprises.com/bmw_2009_2010.htm

Looks like you need a 12mm x 1.50 threaded insert; that is a common drain plug size.

i'm surprised that the dealership didn't suggest this in the first place.
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      09-26-2013, 02:51 PM   #5
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I'd take the new oil pan
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      09-26-2013, 04:33 PM   #6
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what do you mean by stripped? If the drain plug threads are stripped they can repair it with a threaded steel insert, it will be better than new.

http://www.timesert.com/html/drainplug.html
http://www.cgenterprises.com/bmw_2009_2010.htm

Looks like you need a 12mm x 1.50 threaded insert; that is a common drain plug size.

i'm surprised that the dealership didn't suggest this in the first place.
These days, dealer do not know how to repair anymore. They just put new parts instead.

Case in point, on my previous 528i E39, it's common for the power steering hose to leak at the clamp. The dealer suggested that I spent over $500 (parts and labor) on replacing the 2 hoses. I declined and went to Home Depot, bought 2 screw type stainless steel hose clamps for less than $1 each. After that, I drove the car for over 70K miles after that without any leak.
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These days, dealer do not know how to repair anymore. They just put new parts instead.

Case in point, on my previous 528i E39, it's common for the power steering hose to leak at the clamp. The dealer suggested that I spent over $500 (parts and labor) on replacing the 2 hoses. I declined and went to Home Depot, bought 2 screw type stainless steel hose clamps for less than $1 each. After that, I drove the car for over 70K miles after that without any leak.
Good point... I've noticed this as well, parts are simply replaced that are easily repairable often with stuff I have in my own personal toolbox. I suspect in this instance though they're trying to make the OP happy since they f'ed it up; suspecting that the OP may not trust a Timesert, Helicoil, etc. they are stepping up and offering to replace the pan. However I personally would rather have a Timesert than a new pan, assuming it's inserted properly, as then the threads will be steel instead of soft aluminum, thus making it very unlikely for someone to strip them again unless they truly have fists of ham. Or it could possibly be tapped out to 14mm but then if a subsequent owner or shop loses the drain plug they'll be SOL unless/until they figure out that it's not the original size anymore, so I really don't like that idea.

For the clamp - I'm assuming that this must have been a return hose with a spring type clamp? If a high pressure hose with a crimped ferrule, there really aren't good clamp options. I personally would have used a high-pressure "fuel injection" type clamp rather than a worm clamp; I prefer them for everything, they don't damage the hoses nearly as much when tightened. but you can't argue with working for 70K miles

yes, I have owned a lot of vehicles that weren't worth paying a mechanic to repair...
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      09-27-2013, 06:53 AM   #8
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WTF two months, they should be paying your car loan for their mistake!!
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