335is owners "BEWARE!"

farbmw · 11-12-2013, 09:40 PM

Well it all started about 3 months ago I finally got the Vargas Stage 2s turbos and getting Dzenno from PTF to tune them up.

Anyways we hit a snag with the Cobb AP (It would not load in new MAPs) so all we got the day was 404hp and 404 tq, sp it took a while for Cobb to resolve the issue, and once they did I was go to contact Dzenno and get these things tuned and start enjoying the car again, and then it happened.... the half engine came on and decided to hang out, the error was on the inlet side and of course the 30FF that goes along with it.

So because of that I could not do anything more modding (made the wife happy

) or and more tuning until I could figure out what is going on with it.
So weeks go by and many oil changes later, because I refuse to believe that a 2011 335is with 45,000km had a major mechanical problem, so I guess I was fooling myself and hoping that it would fix itself, well it didn't happen, it was getting worse, the error codes would show up after a week, then after a couple of days, and then finally after 10 to 20 mins driving the car, and it only did it driving in the city and never on the highway, if it made it to the highway without the engine light popping up. I was so bad that a Mazda 3 bet my ass, when that happen I called Ivo@ColumbusAuto and Dzenno @ PTF to help me out with my issues.

They both looked at my codes and what I been going though with the car, and they both came to the same conclusions that my ledgers are fucked up and need replacing. But my car shouldn't have this happening because it should have the updated RECTANGRINGs made out of Teflon.

So Dzenno wanted me to try a new map because he and cobb was doing some playing around with the vanos and it may solve my problem and it did for like 45mins and back to where I started from.

So Ivo replaced the oil cap, and that didn't work, replaced both CONTROL VALVE SOLENOIDs (vanos) and that didn't work next would be the timing and then the ledges and guess what it was the ledges and even with the Teflon it dug in and scored the ledges. Ivo believes the original ledges was bad from the factory

So now I should have my car back tomorrow and looking for that God damn Mazda 3 and kick it ass to you know where.

Thanks to Ivo @ Columbus Auto and Dzenno @ PTF for spending so much time in to trying to fix it the best way possible.

So here are some pics of the old ledges.

They was taken from his iPhone so some are not that clear.

mikolo-n54 · 11-12-2013, 09:55 PM

wtf!!! on a 335is too!!!

335is808 · 11-12-2013, 10:00 PM

sucks bro sorry to hear, worst part of the story was the mazda 3.. :/

farbmw · 11-13-2013, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mikolo-n54

wtf!!! on a 335is too!!!

Yes, I didn't want to believe it but pictures don't lie!

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Originally Posted by 335is808

sucks bro sorry to hear, worst part of the story was the mazda 3.. :/

No worries Ivo will fix her up and I will catch up with that Mazda 3 and crush it!

marc@x-ph.com · 11-13-2013, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mikolo-n54

wtf!!! on a 335is too!!!

335i and is have exactly the same engine.

OP sorry to hear about it. It's definitely rare.

Hopefully you get to enjoy your car soon.

mikolo-n54 · 11-13-2013, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by marc@x-ph.com

335i and is have exactly the same engine.

OP sorry to hear about it. It's definitely rare.

Hopefully you get to enjoy your car soon.

I know, its the fact of how much newer his car is compared to a car like mine and I have not had that problem (knocks on wood)

.. but just about every other one

Jklad · 11-13-2013, 09:35 AM

How much does this repair typically cost? Does it need to be serviced at the dealer?

farbmw · 11-13-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jklad

How much does this repair typically cost? Does it need to be serviced at the dealer?

If your under warranty let the dealer do it, but if your not as long as your mechanic has the tool to lock the cams in place on BMWs then your good to go but it is not a cheap unfortunately.

Lucky Ivo knows his stuff, and he will fix her up.

BMWM.D. · 11-13-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by farbmw

If your under warranty let the dealer do it, but if your not as long as your mechanic has the tool to lock the cams in place on BMWs then your good to go but it is not a cheap unfortunately.

Lucky Ivo knows his stuff, and he will fix her up.

Just curious what your oil service history is like? I'm a firm believer that following BMW's ~15k mile oil change intervals isn't good for these engines.

Either way, the cam bearing ledge failures aren't all that common from my experience. Sucks when it happens, but that's how it goes with mechanical things.

farbmw · 11-13-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWM.D.

Just curious what your oil service history is like? I'm a firm believer that following BMW's ~15k mile oil change intervals isn't good for these engines.

Either way, the cam bearing ledge failures aren't all that common from my experience. Sucks when it happens, but that's how it goes with mechanical things.

I do mine between 5,000Km to 9,000Km.

Ilma · 11-13-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by farbmw

I do mine between 5,000Km to 9,000Km.

What oil were you using?

farbmw · 11-13-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilma

What oil were you using?

I was using BMW's oil, but I switched to Motul when the codes started.

jayzF30 · 11-13-2013, 12:27 PM

I had mine fixed under warranty actually. It is actually quite common according to my master tech.

farbmw · 11-13-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jazze90

I had mine fixed under warranty actually. It is actually quite common according to my master tech.

That would explain why the price of the parts are so cheap, but not the labour to do it.

Continue5 · 11-13-2013, 01:16 PM

Shit. I have the same symptoms ... I get the inlet code only in city driving and have swapped out both vanos solenoids.. I think its time for her to go up for sale. -__-!!!!

Alessandro · 11-13-2013, 04:23 PM

thanks for sharing, i am happy for you that Ivo and Dzenno took good care of you. My 335is will be History in May 2014 getting an F80 so hope not to deal with the same issue with my car

farbmw · 11-13-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alessandro

thanks for sharing, i am happy for you that Ivo and Dzenno took good care of you. My 335is will be History in May 2014 getting an F80 so hope not to deal with the same issue with my car

I am lucky to have 2 good guys on my side to help, and because of this, its time for the M4 in spring!

Miller335 · 11-13-2013, 04:30 PM

Is this just a freak thing?

What was your oil change interval?
Sorry to hear this man.

farbmw · 11-13-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Miller335

Is this just a freak thing?

What was you're oil change interval?
Sorry to hear this man.

No worries Bro Ivo just called me and she is running great again, and no Mazda can catch her now.

I do it every 5000Km to 8000Km with BMW dealer oil, but since the problem started I use Motul oil.

Spoolin1 · 11-13-2013, 07:55 PM

I'm completely lost here. What happened exactly? What are the vanos solenoids? I run Amsoil premuim oil and change about every 5k miles btw.

Alessandro · 11-13-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by farbmw

I am lucky to have 2 good guys on my side to help, and because of this, its time for the M4 in spring!

you need to come to the Airport Event then next Summer should be epic.

Briancanadiano · 11-14-2013, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by farbmw

No worries Bro Ivo just called me and she is running great again, and no Mazda can catch her now.

I do it every 5000Km to 8000Km with BMW dealer oil, but since the problem started I use Motul oil.

I seen your car at Ivo yesterday, grey 335is? Looked badass! I was gonna do the Vargas to,
But last minute just decided to go with some fresh stockers, my car had
Bad wastegate rattle...
I asked him why your car was there out of
Curiosity and he showed me that part your talking about where there was a groove, he told me BMW just has a shitty design... What caused that engraving?? What I understand you were getting lots of oil consumption cuz of that no?

11-12-2013, 09:40 PM	#1
farbmw Brigadier General 432 Rep 4,501 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 6SPD MANUAL! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (11)	335is owners "BEWARE!" Well it all started about 3 months ago I finally got the Vargas Stage 2s turbos and getting Dzenno from PTF to tune them up. Anyways we hit a snag with the Cobb AP (It would not load in new MAPs) so all we got the day was 404hp and 404 tq, sp it took a while for Cobb to resolve the issue, and once they did I was go to contact Dzenno and get these things tuned and start enjoying the car again, and then it happened.... the half engine came on and decided to hang out, the error was on the inlet side and of course the 30FF that goes along with it. So because of that I could not do anything more modding (made the wife happy ) or and more tuning until I could figure out what is going on with it. So weeks go by and many oil changes later, because I refuse to believe that a 2011 335is with 45,000km had a major mechanical problem, so I guess I was fooling myself and hoping that it would fix itself, well it didn't happen, it was getting worse, the error codes would show up after a week, then after a couple of days, and then finally after 10 to 20 mins driving the car, and it only did it driving in the city and never on the highway, if it made it to the highway without the engine light popping up. I was so bad that a Mazda 3 bet my ass, when that happen I called Ivo@ColumbusAuto and Dzenno @ PTF to help me out with my issues. They both looked at my codes and what I been going though with the car, and they both came to the same conclusions that my ledgers are fucked up and need replacing. But my car shouldn't have this happening because it should have the updated RECTANGRINGs made out of Teflon. So Dzenno wanted me to try a new map because he and cobb was doing some playing around with the vanos and it may solve my problem and it did for like 45mins and back to where I started from. So Ivo replaced the oil cap, and that didn't work, replaced both CONTROL VALVE SOLENOIDs (vanos) and that didn't work next would be the timing and then the ledges and guess what it was the ledges and even with the Teflon it dug in and scored the ledges. Ivo believes the original ledges was bad from the factory So now I should have my car back tomorrow and looking for that God damn Mazda 3 and kick it ass to you know where. Thanks to Ivo @ Columbus Auto and Dzenno @ PTF for spending so much time in to trying to fix it the best way possible. So here are some pics of the old ledges. They was taken from his iPhone so some are not that clear. Attached Images __________________ Have BT Tool professional, will scan and clear codes on your BMW. And now I am able to code my 2011 335is and M4 Link to my M4 euro delivery! http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1006526
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Continue5 Private First Class 4 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 5-thirty-5 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Chicago iTrader: (1)	Shit. I have the same symptoms ... I get the inlet code only in city driving and have swapped out both vanos solenoids.. I think its time for her to go up for sale. -__-!!!!
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Spoolin1 First Lieutenant 62 Rep 335 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 ZCP Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sellersburg, IN iTrader: (1)	I'm completely lost here. What happened exactly? What are the vanos solenoids? I run Amsoil premuim oil and change about every 5k miles btw. __________________ 11 E92 ZCP 02 Honda S2000 -741 whp 471 wtq (dynojet) @ 29.6 psi on e85; now on 34 psi, 800+ whp.
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