VMR V703 or ForgeStar F14 SDC???

BrownBlazer · 12-15-2013, 05:24 PM

I need some help from some of you offset guru's.

I am trying to decide between these two wheels. I really love the ForgeStar F14 wheel for that SDC sex but not sure it is worth the extra dough if I can get a similar concavity with the VMR.

That being said, if I was to decide on the VMR V703 what offset would you suggest for the most aggressive I could go without any more then a fender roll? I don't really want to have to run too much camber if I can avoid it, mostly due to the fact that where I live there isn't any shops I would trust to dial me in.

My Car:
2009 E92 Alpine M-Sport
Dropped on H&R Sports (Planning on replacing with ST Coils once I can save up for them)

For the ForgeStar's I was planning on the following:
19x9 ET35 front
19x10 ET28 rear

Thanks for any help,

Brandon

Nitrous Garage · 12-16-2013, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrownBlazer

I need some help from some of you offset guru's.

I am trying to decide between these two wheels. I really love the ForgeStar F14 wheel for that SDC sex but not sure it is worth the extra dough if I can get a similar concavity with the VMR.

That being said, if I was to decide on the VMR V703 what offset would you suggest for the most aggressive I could go without any more then a fender roll? I don't really want to have to run too much camber if I can avoid it, mostly due to the fact that where I live there isn't any shops I would trust to dial me in.

My Car:
2009 E92 Alpine M-Sport
Dropped on H&R Sports (Planning on replacing with ST Coils once I can save up for them)

For the ForgeStar's I was planning on the following:
19x9 ET35 front
19x10 ET28 rear

Thanks for any help,

Brandon

Go forgestars

They look incredible in person. A little more expensive but you get a flow form wheel and the concavity looks killer. Those fitments will be fine

EDM92 · 12-16-2013, 12:39 PM

9 +35 might not clear the front strut. I'd say go with a +32.

secretsquirrel · 12-16-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EDM92

9 +35 might not clear the front strut. I'd say go with a +32.

+1.

#Tee · 12-16-2013, 02:53 PM

9 +35 gives you 5mm at the strut

BrownBlazer · 12-16-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by #Tee

9 +35 gives you 5mm at the strut

That is what I thought. This was the suggested setup from three vendors I asked too.

Thanks for the update #Tee

#Tee · 12-16-2013, 03:04 PM

np man...future reference for anyone ..

9 +39 leaves you exactly 1mm at the strut and 9+25 is top of wheel to fender flush at oem camber (-.65) With that you just do some simple math and figure anything out.

BrownBlazer · 12-16-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by #Tee

np man...future reference for anyone ..

9 +39 leaves you exactly 1mm at the strut and 9+25 is top of wheel to fender flush at oem camber (-.65) With that you just do some simple math and figure anything out.

What about rear with 10" or 10.5"?

#Tee · 12-16-2013, 03:58 PM

rears are more tricky since youre dealing with dynamic camber.

10+25 is fender flush at oem camber (-1.6) 44mm before it hits the frame/shock.

so for instance your 10 +28 will be 3mm sunk while leaving you 41mm at the shock. Of course now youll have to worry with ride height, final camber with roll or no roll before choosing a tire width.

one can say you can throw on a 265-275 on the rears with no issues but youll be riding 4x4 rolled or not. or you can slam it on 255.30 with -3.5 on roll with no issues. its very application specific.

EDM92 · 12-16-2013, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #Tee

np man...future reference for anyone ..

9 +39 leaves you exactly 1mm at the strut and 9+25 is top of wheel to fender flush at oem camber (-.65) With that you just do some simple math and figure anything out.

It depends on the struts you're using too. My Broadways had maybe 2mm clearance with a 18x10 +19.

#Tee · 12-16-2013, 04:20 PM

ya that coil housing flares out a few mm near the collar, which is where the rim rides near. iirc i think bc coils are built the same way.

BrownBlazer · 12-16-2013, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #Tee

rears are more tricky since youre dealing with dynamic camber.

10+25 is fender flush at oem camber (-1.6) 44mm before it hits the frame/shock.

so for instance your 10 +28 will be 3mm sunk while leaving you 41mm at the shock. Of course now youll have to worry with ride height, final camber with roll or no roll before choosing a tire width.

one can say you can throw on a 265-275 on the rears with no issues but youll be riding 4x4 rolled or not. or you can slam it on 255.30 with -3.5 on roll with no issues. its very application specific.

I am dropped on H&R sports right now, but plan on doing ST coils once I save up. I had to do wheels first since my summer tires are done and I didnt want to buy for the Style 193's again.

I am expecting to need to roll rear but didnt want to mess with front.

Thanks again for the input, it really helps. I am trying to learn...

#Tee · 12-16-2013, 04:49 PM

heres, e92 335 calipers, sdc up fronts.

19x9.5 et 18, 225/35/19
19x11 et20, 265/30/19

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=170

BrownBlazer · 12-16-2013, 04:53 PM

LACSTER, your car looks sick man.

I don't plan on trying to get SDC up front. Just DC and SDC in rear. This is my daily and our roads are not super great here so I can't go too crazy.

135Pats · 12-16-2013, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #Tee

rears are more tricky since youre dealing with dynamic camber.

10+25 is fender flush at oem camber (-1.6) 44mm before it hits the frame/shock.

so for instance your 10 +28 will be 3mm sunk while leaving you 41mm at the shock. Of course now youll have to worry with ride height, final camber with roll or no roll before choosing a tire width.

one can say you can throw on a 265-275 on the rears with no issues but youll be riding 4x4 rolled or not. or you can slam it on 255.30 with -3.5 on roll with no issues. its very application specific.

I get the sense you've fooled around with wheel fitment just a bit

LACSTER · 12-16-2013, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #Tee

heres, e92 335 calipers, sdc up fronts.

19x9.5 et 18, 225/35/19
19x11 et20, 265/30/19

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=170

Coming from the man himself!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrownBlazer

LACSTER, your car looks sick man.

I don't plan on trying to get SDC up front. Just DC and SDC in rear. This is my daily and our roads are not super great here so I can't go too crazy.

Thanks I deleted my post cause i guess the issue I had on my F10 was the same for the E92's

#Tee · 12-16-2013, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 135Pats

I get the sense you've fooled around with wheel fitment just a bit

youre no slouch pat! i read your posts too man..i take notice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LACSTER

Coming from the man himself!!

Thanks I deleted my post cause i guess the issue I had on my F10 was the same for the E92's

kev that shit looks clean with the gloss vinyl! i havent seen anything like that... way better option vs paint.

LACSTER · 12-16-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by #Tee

kev that shit looks clean with the gloss vinyl! i havent seen anything like that... way better option vs paint.

Yep!!

ThaiRacer · 12-16-2013, 05:13 PM

I have 19x9.5+22 all around on my car no issues but I am an E90 though pre-lci. 19x9.5 is to small for the rear in my opinion should be atleast 19x10.5+22 thats my next goal. O and BTW I have no rubbing issues in the front. I'm running 225/35 all around

But i have VMR701

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=907441

bmw325i · 12-16-2013, 06:02 PM

Have you considered going with 9.5/11.

You could do
9.5 et26 with a 235/35/19 or 245/35/19
11 et33 with a 265/30/19 or 275/30/19

It will poke about 5mm, and the front should clear coilovers. You just need a good roll and some trimming in the rear.

BrownBlazer · 12-16-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bmw325i

Have you considered going with 9.5/11.

You could do
9.5 et26 with a 235/35/19 or 245/35/19
11 et33 with a 265/30/19 or 275/30/19

It will poke about 5mm, and the front should clear coilovers. You just need a good roll and some trimming in the rear.

I don't really want to cut anything on my car. I will roll since I have a guy that can do it for me.

But maybe I don't understand fully what I need to actually cut.

07tundra · 12-16-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BrownBlazer

I don't really want to cut anything on my car. I will roll since I have a guy that can do it for me.

But maybe I don't understand fully what I need to actually cut.

I have 9.5 et22 in front and 11 et25 in the rear I did roll and trim the lip and no issues. If I have the car full of peeps it might rub slightly sometimes in the rear going 85-90 on the interstate. e90 pre-lci wheels are LC 818s

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12-15-2013, 05:24 PM	#1
BrownBlazer Coupe'n 22 Rep 149 Posts Drives: 2009 335i/2014 F10 M5 CP Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bend, OR iTrader: (0)	VMR V703 or ForgeStar F14 SDC??? I need some help from some of you offset guru's. I am trying to decide between these two wheels. I really love the ForgeStar F14 wheel for that SDC sex but not sure it is worth the extra dough if I can get a similar concavity with the VMR. That being said, if I was to decide on the VMR V703 what offset would you suggest for the most aggressive I could go without any more then a fender roll? I don't really want to have to run too much camber if I can avoid it, mostly due to the fact that where I live there isn't any shops I would trust to dial me in. My Car: 2009 E92 Alpine M-Sport Dropped on H&R Sports (Planning on replacing with ST Coils once I can save up for them) For the ForgeStar's I was planning on the following: 19x9 ET35 front 19x10 ET28 rear Thanks for any help, Brandon
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EDM92 Colonel 162 Rep 2,561 Posts Drives: Low&Slow Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Florida iTrader: (9)	9 +35 might not clear the front strut. I'd say go with a +32. __________________ Montego Blue 2007 E92 335i - ZSP / ZPP / Steptronic / Logic7 Broadway Static - CCW - Megan - Orion Instagram: bmwforlife
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12-16-2013, 02:53 PM	#5
#Tee Major General 564 Rep 5,366 Posts Drives: yes Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Socal iTrader: (2)	9 +35 gives you 5mm at the strut __________________ You can follow my builds on IG: Tee212
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#Tee Major General 564 Rep 5,366 Posts Drives: yes Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Socal iTrader: (2)	np man...future reference for anyone .. 9 +39 leaves you exactly 1mm at the strut and 9+25 is top of wheel to fender flush at oem camber (-.65) With that you just do some simple math and figure anything out. __________________ You can follow my builds on IG: Tee212
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#Tee Major General 564 Rep 5,366 Posts Drives: yes Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Socal iTrader: (2)	rears are more tricky since youre dealing with dynamic camber. 10+25 is fender flush at oem camber (-1.6) 44mm before it hits the frame/shock. so for instance your 10 +28 will be 3mm sunk while leaving you 41mm at the shock. Of course now youll have to worry with ride height, final camber with roll or no roll before choosing a tire width. one can say you can throw on a 265-275 on the rears with no issues but youll be riding 4x4 rolled or not. or you can slam it on 255.30 with -3.5 on roll with no issues. its very application specific. __________________ You can follow my builds on IG: Tee212
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#Tee Major General 564 Rep 5,366 Posts Drives: yes Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Socal iTrader: (2)	ya that coil housing flares out a few mm near the collar, which is where the rim rides near. iirc i think bc coils are built the same way. __________________ You can follow my builds on IG: Tee212
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#Tee Major General 564 Rep 5,366 Posts Drives: yes Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Socal iTrader: (2)	heres, e92 335 calipers, sdc up fronts. 19x9.5 et 18, 225/35/19 19x11 et20, 265/30/19 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=170 __________________ You can follow my builds on IG: Tee212
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12-16-2013, 04:53 PM	#14
BrownBlazer Coupe'n 22 Rep 149 Posts Drives: 2009 335i/2014 F10 M5 CP Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bend, OR iTrader: (0)	LACSTER, your car looks sick man. I don't plan on trying to get SDC up front. Just DC and SDC in rear. This is my daily and our roads are not super great here so I can't go too crazy.
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ThaiRacer Private First Class 6 Rep 191 Posts Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tampa FL iTrader: (0)	I have 19x9.5+22 all around on my car no issues but I am an E90 though pre-lci. 19x9.5 is to small for the rear in my opinion should be atleast 19x10.5+22 thats my next goal. O and BTW I have no rubbing issues in the front. I'm running 225/35 all around But i have VMR701 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=907441
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12-16-2013, 06:02 PM	#20
bmw325i Major General 237 Rep 5,118 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 325i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: United States iTrader: (8)	Have you considered going with 9.5/11. You could do 9.5 et26 with a 235/35/19 or 245/35/19 11 et33 with a 265/30/19 or 275/30/19 It will poke about 5mm, and the front should clear coilovers. You just need a good roll and some trimming in the rear.
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