painting defect or damaged by an object?

insane79 · 12-27-2013, 03:41 PM

Hi Guys,
I got my rear bumper repainted a month back from the dealer, today while taking my car out i noticed this deep scratch on the rear bumper, it doesn't look like it was done by another car, is this a painting defect or damage by another car/object? i have attached pics, my car is always covered & there is no noticeable damage on the car cover.
Thanks..

mashimarho · 12-27-2013, 03:48 PM

Definitely looks like damage of some sort.
Feel it. If it is smooth and under the clear coat, then it would be paint. but, by the looks of the sharp lines, it looks like damage.

Myrder · 12-27-2013, 03:48 PM

looks like a scratch

rick100 · 12-27-2013, 04:40 PM

it may not be damage from another car but it could be damage from someone walking close to your rear bumper . Like someone else said , it looks like damage from an object ( like shopping car, stroller , who knows really)

CruzS4e92 · 12-27-2013, 04:46 PM

historically speaking, you'll find that most damage of this sort is caused by low-flying pelicans

insane79 · 12-27-2013, 07:20 PM

I noticed this scratch today morning before taking the car out, when parking it the night before there wasn't any scratch/mark. The best part is my car cover is flawless & has not tear etc on the same rear bumper spot, will take a look at my parking space cctv soon but i got a feeling it hasn't happened by an external source cause the car cover is intact on the same spot

insane79 · 12-28-2013, 06:16 PM

Can the mods move this thread in the cosmetic repairs section?

Thanks.

///Mposter · 12-28-2013, 07:50 PM

Looks as if there might have been damage and then the after effect was an air bubble where it occurred . Then it looks as if it ripped along the line. If there was good adhesion from the paint job or it had a longer period of time to cure/ harden, then maybe it would have acted like OEM and just been " an indention scratch" with no paint ripping. It could be fixed by a blend job and a re-clear. I would ask for the bumper to be completely re-cleared; not just halfway or on the corner.

pruettfan · 12-28-2013, 09:16 PM

Not a paint flaw

insane79 · 12-30-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Mposter

Looks as if there might have been damage and then the after effect was an air bubble where it occurred . Then it looks as if it ripped along the line. If there was good adhesion from the paint job or it had a longer period of time to cure/ harden, then maybe it would have acted like OEM and just been " an indention scratch" with no paint ripping. It could be fixed by a blend job and a re-clear. I would ask for the bumper to be completely re-cleared; not just halfway or on the corner.

interesting, the rear bumper was repainted around 40 days back, so will it take that long for the defects to pop up? i m sure the dealership will say it was done by external damage.

PTek Will · 12-30-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CruzS4e92

historically speaking, you'll find that most damage of this sort is caused by low-flying pelicans

LOL!!

Detailers Domain · 01-01-2014, 04:08 PM

not a paint flaw definitely a low impact of some sorts, also looks like there is a bit of a dent on it. best bet get it fixed at a body shop.

///Mposter · 01-02-2014, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by insane79

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///Mposter

Looks as if there might have been damage and then the after effect was an air bubble where it occurred . Then it looks as if it ripped along the line. If there was good adhesion from the paint job or it had a longer period of time to cure/ harden, then maybe it would have acted like OEM and just been " an indention scratch" with no paint ripping. It could be fixed by a blend job and a re-clear. I would ask for the bumper to be completely re-cleared; not just halfway or on the corner.

interesting, the rear bumper was repainted around 40 days back, so will it take that long for the defects to pop up? i m sure the dealership will say it was done by external damage.

I should probably rephrase it a bit. Yes I believe there was damaged caused by an outside source( cart, low flying pelicans or whatever) . Bu I also believe that the paint job was most likely not prepped that well. New raw bumpers need to be scuffed with green pad , then cleaned with soap and water, not degreaser, then sprayed with bulldog flex adhesion promoter, then paint, then clear coat.
I don't think they scuffed the raw bumper well, otherwise it wouldn't look the way it does after the damage. It's not like you could use a touch up pen because its bubbled up.

///Mposter · 01-02-2014, 10:45 AM

Raw bumper

///Mposter · 01-02-2014, 10:45 AM

Bumper scuffed dull

///Mposter · 01-02-2014, 10:46 AM

Bumper with bulldog adhesion promoter.

///Mposter · 01-02-2014, 10:47 AM

Tiag base coat

///Mposter · 01-02-2014, 10:48 AM

Clear coat

insane79 · 01-03-2014, 11:03 AM

Thanks for the total briefing, i now believe its a physical damage which god knows how the car cover didn't rip. Thanks for all the help guys..

12-27-2013, 03:41 PM	#1
insane79 Major 97 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: E90 lci Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	painting defect or damaged by an object? Hi Guys, I got my rear bumper repainted a month back from the dealer, today while taking my car out i noticed this deep scratch on the rear bumper, it doesn't look like it was done by another car, is this a painting defect or damage by another car/object? i have attached pics, my car is always covered & there is no noticeable damage on the car cover. Thanks..
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12-27-2013, 03:48 PM	#2
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12-27-2013, 03:48 PM	#3
Myrder Major 164 Rep 1,264 Posts Drives: 2010 E92 335i MSport 6MT LMB Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: WildWest iTrader: (1)	looks like a scratch __________________ 2010\|335i\|LMB\|E92\|6MT\|MSport\|Logic7\|335is Clutch\|AE Performance\|BMS\|Walbro\|VRSF 7"\| 149.7mph NFZ AZ 1/2mi 1992\|Pontiac Firebird\|Mild 355ci\|T56\| -I will look on your treasures, gypsy. Is this understood?-
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12-27-2013, 04:40 PM	#4
rick100 Colonel 556 Rep 2,293 Posts Drives: 328 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: canada iTrader: (0)	it may not be damage from another car but it could be damage from someone walking close to your rear bumper . Like someone else said , it looks like damage from an object ( like shopping car, stroller , who knows really)
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12-27-2013, 07:20 PM	#6
insane79 Major 97 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: E90 lci Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	I noticed this scratch today morning before taking the car out, when parking it the night before there wasn't any scratch/mark. The best part is my car cover is flawless & has not tear etc on the same rear bumper spot, will take a look at my parking space cctv soon but i got a feeling it hasn't happened by an external source cause the car cover is intact on the same spot
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12-28-2013, 06:16 PM	#7
insane79 Major 97 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: E90 lci Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Can the mods move this thread in the cosmetic repairs section? Thanks.
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12-28-2013, 07:50 PM	#8
///Mposter Macgyver 212 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greensboring iTrader: (0)	Looks as if there might have been damage and then the after effect was an air bubble where it occurred . Then it looks as if it ripped along the line. If there was good adhesion from the paint job or it had a longer period of time to cure/ harden, then maybe it would have acted like OEM and just been " an indention scratch" with no paint ripping. It could be fixed by a blend job and a re-clear. I would ask for the bumper to be completely re-cleared; not just halfway or on the corner. __________________ GTX3076R , ADV, JB4, FMIC, BOV, 17"APEX, 255/40/17 SQ, 6-SPD Manual
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12-28-2013, 09:16 PM	#9
pruettfan Brigadier General 1628 Rep 3,402 Posts Drives: 2017 M2, LBB, DCT, Exec Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	Not a paint flaw
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01-01-2014, 04:08 PM	#12
Detailers Domain BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 2489 Rep 7,050 Posts Drives: 20 M2C, 22 X3M, 25 M2, 01 740 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (24)	not a paint flaw definitely a low impact of some sorts, also looks like there is a bit of a dent on it. best bet get it fixed at a body shop.
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01-02-2014, 10:45 AM	#14
///Mposter Macgyver 212 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greensboring iTrader: (0)	Raw bumper Attached Images __________________ GTX3076R , ADV, JB4, FMIC, BOV, 17"APEX, 255/40/17 SQ, 6-SPD Manual
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01-02-2014, 10:45 AM	#15
///Mposter Macgyver 212 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greensboring iTrader: (0)	Bumper scuffed dull Attached Images __________________ GTX3076R , ADV, JB4, FMIC, BOV, 17"APEX, 255/40/17 SQ, 6-SPD Manual
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01-02-2014, 10:46 AM	#16
///Mposter Macgyver 212 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greensboring iTrader: (0)	Bumper with bulldog adhesion promoter. Attached Images __________________ GTX3076R , ADV, JB4, FMIC, BOV, 17"APEX, 255/40/17 SQ, 6-SPD Manual
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01-02-2014, 10:47 AM	#17
///Mposter Macgyver 212 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greensboring iTrader: (0)	Tiag base coat Attached Images __________________ GTX3076R , ADV, JB4, FMIC, BOV, 17"APEX, 255/40/17 SQ, 6-SPD Manual
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01-02-2014, 10:48 AM	#18
///Mposter Macgyver 212 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greensboring iTrader: (0)	Clear coat Attached Images __________________ GTX3076R , ADV, JB4, FMIC, BOV, 17"APEX, 255/40/17 SQ, 6-SPD Manual
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01-03-2014, 11:03 AM	#19
insane79 Major 97 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: E90 lci Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the total briefing, i now believe its a physical damage which god knows how the car cover didn't rip. Thanks for all the help guys..
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