Help: Car just stopped

taibanl · 01-11-2014, 05:18 PM

Was just sitting outside my place for a minute or two, engine idling. Car otherwise working normally - then out of nowhere, the engine just stopped. Didn't sputter or die, just stopped as if I pressed the stop button.

Will not restart - as if its not getting fuel. Turns over fine (plenty of batt volts) and then stops after the 3-4 second start attempt.

anyone seen this behavior? I don't recall any of you posting it.

dixy2k · 01-11-2014, 05:24 PM

How's the DEF level? Did you get a message in the past about it?

GreekboyD · 01-11-2014, 05:39 PM

Could be the fuel pump.

taibanl · 01-11-2014, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dixy2k

How's the DEF level? Did you get a message in the past about it?

Not at issue. Refilled about 600mi ago

taibanl · 01-11-2014, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekboyD

Could be the fuel pump.

I would think that would give a code.

dixy2k · 01-11-2014, 05:49 PM

Maybe disconnecting the battery for a while will help reset everything and possibly restart.

Do you have a code scanner?
I am all out of ideas, I'll just let some more knowledgeable members help out.

Got_Diesel · 01-11-2014, 07:04 PM

Gel fuel?

taibanl · 01-11-2014, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dixy2k

Maybe disconnecting the battery for a while will help reset everything and possibly restart.

Do you have a code scanner?
I am all out of ideas, I'll just let some more knowledgeable members help out.

Me too :-/ I do have a scanner - have a pending code (no SES) for 46F2 - DDE - which has been there since my dealer visit in December - pending so no action taken. I would think this would likely be related but then again, i would think the SES should trigger

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Originally Posted by Got_Diesel

Gel fuel?

Don't think so.

Found a 'fest thread with similar issue, his car restarted by time the tow truck arrived but I've tried quite a few times and batt is getting low - calling back to BMW roadside assistance in AM.

I really want to hang onto this car, but my doubts grow every day.

Hoooper · 01-11-2014, 07:58 PM

Have you let the car go to sleep before trying again?

taibanl · 01-11-2014, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoooper

Have you let the car go to sleep before trying again?

Yes. Gonna try in the am as well then call roadside

GreekboyD · 01-11-2014, 09:44 PM

Maybe the crankshaft sensor?:

Link

Hoooper · 01-11-2014, 09:44 PM

huh. there aren't very many reasons a diesel will shut off. pretty much sure to be fuel related, whether electrical or mechanical

taibanl · 01-11-2014, 09:46 PM

Oh well. To the stealer

Timujin · 01-11-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by taibanl

Oh well. To the stealer

sheet.

Quasimodem · 01-12-2014, 01:58 AM

Sorry to hear that, you still under warranty? Sounds like something in the fuel system.

davidjaen · 01-12-2014, 06:38 AM

Blue relay in motor compartiment????

Bye.

taibanl · 01-12-2014, 11:28 AM

Update:

Car started first attempt this am, idled for a bit, i backed up 10 feet and it 'clunked' to a halt - felt almost like transmission but remember that yesterday it was in park when it stopped. Im not sure if fuel starvation would cause an abrupt stop. Maybe greek is onto something with the cam sensor?

Still no SES

Quasimodem · 01-12-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by taibanl

Update:

Car started first attempt this am, idled for a bit, i backed up 10 feet and it 'clunked' to a halt - felt almost like transmission but remember that yesterday it was in park when it stopped. Im not sure if fuel starvation would cause an abrupt stop. Maybe greek is onto something with the cam sensor?

Still no SES

Maybe an air bubble or leak in your fuel pump. Maybe a purge cycle first if you or your shop knows how to do that, and then if that doesnt work, inspect the pump and or replace. Just a guess though.

135i_vs_ · 01-12-2014, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by taibanl

Still no SES

If you can get a tool that will read BMW codes, you'll know most probably what's causing this. For the SES to come on, this on off problem needs to happen 1 or 2 to times more. Then the SES will be triggered.

taibanl · 01-12-2014, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 135i_vs_

If you can get a tool that will read BMW codes, you'll know most probably what's causing this. For the SES to come on, this on off problem needs to happen 1 or 2 to times more. Then the SES will be triggered.

I have such a reader - will see what dealer says.

sergiy'd · 01-13-2014, 12:34 PM

vacuum leak, check that all the rubber hoses are connected

does the idle surge?

taibanl · 01-13-2014, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sergiy'd

vacuum leak, check that all the rubber hoses are connected

does the idle surge?

No surge. Smooth then just stops

01-11-2014, 05:18 PM	#1
taibanl Brigadier General 285 Rep 4,116 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NA iTrader: (4)	Help: Car just stopped - won't restart Was just sitting outside my place for a minute or two, engine idling. Car otherwise working normally - then out of nowhere, the engine just stopped. Didn't sputter or die, just stopped as if I pressed the stop button. Will not restart - as if its not getting fuel. Turns over fine (plenty of batt volts) and then stops after the 3-4 second start attempt. anyone seen this behavior? I don't recall any of you posting it.
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GreekboyD Brigadier General 416 Rep 3,051 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335d [8.00]	Could be the fuel pump.
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dixy2k Major 89 Rep 1,151 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Maybe disconnecting the battery for a while will help reset everything and possibly restart. Do you have a code scanner? I am all out of ideas, I'll just let some more knowledgeable members help out.
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Got_Diesel Second Lieutenant 20 Rep 297 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Gel fuel? __________________
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GreekboyD Brigadier General 416 Rep 3,051 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335d [8.00]	Maybe the crankshaft sensor?: Link
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taibanl Brigadier General 285 Rep 4,116 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NA iTrader: (4)	Oh well. To the stealer
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taibanl Brigadier General 285 Rep 4,116 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NA iTrader: (4)	Update: Car started first attempt this am, idled for a bit, i backed up 10 feet and it 'clunked' to a halt - felt almost like transmission but remember that yesterday it was in park when it stopped. Im not sure if fuel starvation would cause an abrupt stop. Maybe greek is onto something with the cam sensor? Still no SES
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sergiy'd Private 3 Rep 72 Posts Drives: 2011 bmw 335d Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: chicago iTrader: (0)	vacuum leak, check that all the rubber hoses are connected does the idle surge?
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