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      01-22-2014, 05:54 PM   #1
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Beginning from spring 2014 and right after the market launch of the 2-Series Coupe, BMW will extend the range with two diesel variants, the 218d Coupe and 225d Coupe, both of which are powered by a 2.0-liter turbo diesel producing 141hp (143PS) in the former and 215hp (218PS) in the latter.

The 218d Coupe accelerates from 0 to 100 km/h (62mph) in 8.9 seconds (automatic transmission: 8.6 seconds) and returns a combined fuel consumption of as low as 4.2l/100km (54.7 mpg US or 65.7 mpg UK). The 225d does the same in 6.3 seconds and delivers an average fuel economy of 4.7l/100km (50 mpg US or 60.1 mpg UK).

Moving on to the 3-Series and the Gran Turismo, there's a new 330d version with a 3.0-liter turbocharged straight-six rated for 255hp (258PS) and 560Nm (413 lb-ft) hooked up to a standard eight-speed Steptronic transmission. It can be ordered with xDrive (BMW's all-wheel drive system), while BMW says it hits 100km/h (62mph) from standstill in 5.7 seconds (xDrive in 5.4 seconds), and consumes as low as 5.1l/100km (equal to 46.1 mpg US or 55.4 mpg UK) on average.

A second new model for the 3-Series Gran Turismo range is the 335d xDrive, with the six-cylinder diesel producing 309hp (313PS) for a 0-100km/h (62mph) in 4.9 seconds and delivering an average fuel economy of as low as 5.6l/100km (42mpg US or 50.4 mpg UK).

Next up is the 4-Series, with the Coupe gaining a fourth diesel engine in the guise of the 425d with a 215hp (218PS) 2.0-liter inline four (0-100km/h in 6.7 sec with a manual and 6.5 sec with the 8sp auto), and a new all-wheel drive version, the 430d xDrive with a 255hp (258PS) 3.0-liter turbo diesel (0-100km/h in 5.2 seconds) paired exclusively to an 8-speed automatic.

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That M235i looks gorgeous and the early test drive reviews look promising. A strong candidate for my next car!
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      01-22-2014, 06:08 PM   #3
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That M235i looks gorgeous and the early test drive reviews look promising. A strong candidate for my next car!
Have to agree. Wonder if available to N.America what the price would be especially after options like a limited slip differential.
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The article said "with the Bavarian carmaker announcing a multitude of news for its 2014 range, some of which concern its European portfolio and others its global lineup." But I didn't see anything about which ones will be available where. Did I miss it?

Does anyone know if new 330/335d's are coming to the states? I am guessing that because they only mention GTs and not f30s that they are talking Europe as I believe are f30 330/5ds already available there. It really would be great news because the 320d that we have here isn't really appealing to me.
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The article said "with the Bavarian carmaker announcing a multitude of news for its 2014 range, some of which concern its European portfolio and others its global lineup." But I didn't see anything about which ones will be available where. Did I miss it?

Does anyone know if new 330/335d's are coming to the states? I am guessing that because they only mention GTs and not f30s that they are talking Europe as I believe are f30 330/5ds already available there. It really would be great news because the 320d that we have here isn't really appealing to me.
They are most likely destined for Europe but I'd say I'm more optimistic than ever with Audi, Porsche and Chevy offering more diesels here in North America and Mazda just around the corner.
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I doubt it will be. I would def love for a factory 300HP 335 to come around, Id have to think hard about getting one next year then
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Mazda is having their issues with launch of the Diesel. drove the AUDI Q5 Diesel and was impressed but girlfriend wants the X5D M version oh well
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Does the current f30 335d meet euro 6 emissions? (Thus would meet epa).
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Does the current f30 335d meet euro 6 emissions? (Thus would meet epa).
No. Only up to the 330d do at this point
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Does the current f30 335d meet euro 6 emissions? (Thus would meet epa).
Isnt this the year that higher emissions requirements go into effect in Europe? I was hoping that this would cause automakers to simplify their cars and make the same emission systems for both markets, thus a car designed for Europe, even if it had not been EPA approved would, in reality pass smog reqs here too.
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Isnt this the year that higher emissions requirements go into effect in Europe? I was hoping that this would cause automakers to simplify their cars and make the same emission systems for both markets, thus a car designed for Europe, even if it had not been EPA approved would, in reality pass smog reqs here too.
Emission regulations are very different among markets. Not only the total amount of pollutants are into play. The test cycles to measure emissions performance are very different too and dramatically affect the results.

Differences on cycles are due to specific traffic conditions and geography. (Terrain topography, climate and how population occupies area).

On top of these technicalities there are politics and economic battles.

Common emmision specs therefore will continue a distant reality for years to come.
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Isnt this the year that higher emissions requirements go into effect in Europe? I was hoping that this would cause automakers to simplify their cars and make the same emission systems for both markets, thus a car designed for Europe, even if it had not been EPA approved would, in reality pass smog reqs here too.
Euro 6 starts in 2015 and the main changes are around more restringent limits for Nitrogen Oxides.

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Emission regulations are very different among markets. Not only the total amount of pollutants are into play. The test cycles to measure emissions performance are very different too and dramatically affect the results.

Differences on cycles are due to specific traffic conditions and geography. (Terrain topography, climate and how population occupies area).

On top of these technicalities there are politics and economic battles.

Common emmision specs therefore will continue a distant reality for years to come.
Maybe, but I would assert that if a single emissions control device satisfies all differing requirements from multiple jurisdictions, then the manufacturer has a great incentive to use that one device on all its models, even if it makes certain models a bit more expensive in certain specific markets than they would be with a device designed only for that market.
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740d which is actually the European 730d just like the 530d sold here as 535d.
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Maybe, but I would assert that if a single emissions control device satisfies all differing requirements from multiple jurisdictions, then the manufacturer has a great incentive to use that one device on all its models, even if it makes certain models a bit more expensive in certain specific markets than they would be with a device designed only for that market.
I agree. This strategy is already in use for less evolved and smaller markets and represents big savings on development costs for the OEMs. These locations are followers on most of industry regulations and normally 5 to 10 years behind on emissions restrictions. (BRICs)
However USA and Europe emissions limits are on the edge of available technology and represent huge challenges. It will be a big milestone when OEMs find an economically viable and optimized solution that fit both markets without SW or HW changes.

Test cycles, driving styles, fuel, climate, pollutans limits.... All is different!
To make it even more difficult, homologation is model/engine specific. Same HW in different cars produce very different results!
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Isnt this the year that higher emissions requirements go into effect in Europe?
All diesel powered cars registered in EU on or after September 1, 2014 will have to pass the Euro 6 regulation.

It will be interesting to see how the new regulations will affect the diesel take rate in EU as the cars are expected to get thousands of euros more expensive, thanks to the new emissions systems. Not to mention more complex to maintain and own....
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To make it even more difficult, homologation is model/engine specific. Same HW in different cars produce very different results!
Yeah, the big problem is that a mfg cant just get a single engine EPA approved in the U.S. (on it's own) and then throw it into a body/model which itself has been separately approved for safety and crash worthiness, and then import the entire assembly object into the U.S. without further tests.

What is needed is a way to compartmentalize testing. For example, a car "structure" can be approved for safety and crash worthiness for all power plants under a certain weight placed in a certain location. And a powerplant can be approved for emissions for all car "structures" under a certain weight.

Really, what is called for is practical regulations drawn up by people in the industry, not legislators. But the industry isnt organized and cant take the lead until the writing is on the wall and we all suffer. So maybe things will change.
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All diesel powered cars registered in EU on or after September 1, 2014 will have to pass the Euro 6 regulation.

It will be interesting to see how the new regulations will affect the diesel take rate in EU as the cars are expected to get thousands of euros more expensive, thanks to the new emissions systems. Not to mention more complex to maintain and own....
I hope you mean all new cars registered after Sept 1, 2014. Not the old ones too, which are already registered.
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I hope you mean all new cars registered after Sept 1, 2014. Not the old ones too, which are already registered.
Yes, I meant new ones. Can you imagine the chaos and confusion if the old ones would have to be retrofitted with urea tanks? It would be pretty funny though seeing a small death trap with a urea drum strapped to its roof with hoses running down to the engine bay...
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