[Ingeniator]

Ok so dude at work has a 1 series he sent the car to .... and had 12k of dinan parts installed. Yet he can't pull a SRT8 why would anyone spend money on this. If you want a warranty that bad stay stock or put the extra 6k in the spare engine fund lol. Anyone have any idea what he paid for yet got no benefit from I don't know what the srt8 was or if it had mods got the story third hand from a vette owner.

[evoix]

what car is he losing to Srt8 challenger, charger, or the jeep?

OR

Maybe he doesnt know how to drive

OR

He swapped out his motor for b16 vtec with gsr tranny. WHo knows

[ThatBlackE92]

doesn't quite matter, all SRT8's are buckets and moving bricks.. I pulled a 2014 SRT8 jeep by lengths from a 20 roll.. and all i had was tune.

[Ingeniator]

Originally Posted by evoix

what car is he losing to Srt8 challenger, charger, or the jeep?

OR

Maybe he doesnt know how to drive

OR

He swapped out his motor for b16 vtec with gsr tranny. WHo knows

Any of the above shouldn't be an issue with a tuned N54. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on driving skills. We have some monsters in town but I don't think it was one of them because the vette would be eaten also.

Also I don't really care that much....so your sarcasm is wasted on me.

[ajsalida]

Originally Posted by evoix

what car is he losing to Srt8 challenger, charger, or the jeep?

OR

Maybe he doesnt know how to drive

OR

He swapped out his motor for b16 vtec with gsr tranny. WHo knows

or maybe DINAN is wildly overpriced and even then doesn't come close to what 5k worth of proven aftermarket mods can do. Hell just a tune, FMIC + DP's should do very well.

[135Pats]

This is the same company that makes a $30K stroker kit for the S65. For $30K you can shoot for WR type power on that platform.

[ajsalida]

Never ceases to amaze me that DINAN still somehow finds customers at those prices.

[theblackmamba]

you're paying for the name....

[Tiago@VRSF]

Originally Posted by theblackmamba

you're paying for the name....

And ignorance

[ThatBlackE92]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

And ignorance

Precisely haha

[F80M]

Forward this thread to that dude at your work to get answers?

[stanlalee]

I did the math long ago and you save anywhere from $2400 still using premium priced parts (ex: AMS/ETS/Helix intercoolers, GIAC stage 2 or Cobb V3, nice looking $350 intake) to $3500 using typical proven path (JB4, DCI, VRSF 7" intercooler).

I never understood if you have an extra $2400-3500 to fork over to Dinan for peace of mind how keeping that extra $2400-3500 for repairs doesn't offer you any peace of mind How many people have actually USED their Dinan warranty to make up the difference in cost?

I'm certain their intercooler is no better quality than ETS or AMS and I'm certain...other than likely some inside connections to BMW....they aren't any more knowledgeable about tuning. The intake a superior product but power produced by an intake just can't justify the cost. I'd rather pay for parts that break than pay for a warranty I'm not going to use. NOW if they offered a warranty while pushing the car to levels where you might use it then it would be worth it but don't give me ultra conservative then tack on a warranty tax. I can go directly to BMW for that.

[Miller335]

I think it's brilliant.

If you got money and it's burning a hole in your pocket, bmw is there to satisfy your needs.

It's no different with their options list for each vehicle as well as having many tiers of vehicles altogether.

It's just good business in the end.

[stanlalee]

Originally Posted by Miller335

I think it's brilliant.

If you got money and it's burning a hole in your pocket, bmw is there to satisfy your needs.

It's no different with their options list for each vehicle as well as having many tiers of vehicles altogether.

It's just good business in the end.

Nobody said it wasn't smart on their part. Its Genius they are able to do it considering the other options. Teach me lol.

[dlbrooks18]

Wheels, exhaust, flash tune, upgraded cooling, suspension bits, etc. Things add up quickly, but yes I get your point Dinan is expensive..

[vindizzle9]

If anyone is interested, the founder of Dinan was on the Smoking Tire Podcast earlier this week. At some point in the show, he talks about the premium price of his products.

http://shoutengine.com/TheSmokingTire/krautwerk-1369

[BoostedE90]

^^I would love to hear his explanation but I don't think I can sit through 98 mins of it.

EDIT: Found it. Starts at 78:53

[Charlie@McKennaBMWService]

Originally Posted by ThatBlackE92

doesn't quite matter, all SRT8's are buckets and moving bricks.. I pulled a 2014 SRT8 jeep by lengths from a 20 roll.. and all i had was tune.

Agreed SRT8's are slow AF... All bark and no bite...

[evoix]

Originally Posted by Charlie@McKennaBMWService

Agreed SRT8's are slow AF... All bark and no bite...

Obviously they are not that slow if his boy is getting walked by one lol. I love my bmw but they are boats too!!!

[ajsalida]

The thing about DINAN, at least on BMW's, is the stuff isn't even the best. Not even close by any objective measure. So it is more puzzling as to how he keeps getting away with it. If I were to start an aftermarket upscale parts company, I'd want to aggressively make sure product was top notch and kicked everyone else's ass. Maybe not by a lot but enough, then charge a premium.

I see a Dinan badge on a car now I just laugh, might as well have a bumper sticker saying, I am a dumb ass with too much money.

Back in the day when he first got going, E36 M3 had just come out, Car & Driver tested several Dinan stages of cars. They were SLOWER than the stock M3 on a track. Very expensive mods too. Like every worthless bolt on you could imagine, all with Dinan written on them. Not much has changed.

[hemi to e90]

Originally Posted by ajsalida

The thing about DINAN, at least on BMW's, is the stuff isn't even the best. Not even close by any objective measure. So it is more puzzling as to how he keeps getting away with it. If I were to start an aftermarket upscale parts company, I'd want to aggressively make sure product was top notch and kicked everyone else's ass. Maybe not by a lot but enough, then charge a premium.

I see a Dinan badge on a car now I just laugh, might as well have a bumper sticker saying, I am a dumb ass with too much money.

Back in the day when he first got going, E36 M3 had just come out, Car & Driver tested several Dinan stages of cars. They were SLOWER than the stock M3 on a track. Very expensive mods too. Like every worthless bolt on you could imagine, all with Dinan written on them. Not much has changed.

would love to read that article.

[ajsalida]

Circa mid 90's. I still have the M3 I bought 7/95, recall hearing so much about Dinan, then read that article. The guy who really broke out at that time as a stealth tuner was Jim Conforti. He has vanished but I think Turner still sells his chips or maybe bought rights to them.

IIRC a conforti chipped car with euro HFM and cold air intake was faster than anything dinan had out. Then Dinan went with supercharging etc but still messed up the M3's and reviews never were that good considering price. Conforti came out with a neat twin scroll, again superior.

Now there are 1200 WHP E36 M3 running around and even the supercharged Dinan e36's are kind of quaint. Hell 800 WHP e36 cars are nothing exceptional now, and for the cost of an e9x + 12k you could build 2 or 3.

edit: it was the handling that was messed up the most. Stock M3 for that era was one of if not the best handling car on the planet. So of course Dinan had to "improve" it with sway bars and shocks etc. Ruined it and the article said so.