[hl0m4n]

if so can you post pictures or tell if there was any modification needed for the tips to not touch paint, etc? can you see the eisenhaus logo still on top of the muffler tip? dynos and drone condition?

is the race= to the masterchiefs? they don't make a dual tip masterchiefs so im wondering.

[BoostedBMW]

The Meisterschaft and Race exhausts are different. They both use the same SR pipes, but the mufflers are different. The Race exhaust sounds very mean, but its pretty loud and it does drone. The Meisterschaft sound is a perfect combination of loudness and tone IMO. Many say that it doesn't drone once its broken in, so even if it does, it would only be slightly. So, the Meisterschaft doesn't = the Race exhaust, they are different. Also, the Meisterschaft is available in 2x90 as well as 2x100, and quad tips as well. I believe that IND is the sole distributor for the 2x90 meisterschaft exhaust though, which is why you probably didn't see it on Eisenhaus' website, which only shows the quad system now. There are some pics floating around on here with the 100mm tips if you search. Personally, I think they are too big. 90mm seems to fill the stock cut outs perfectly.

[hl0m4n]

Originally Posted by BoostedBMW

The Meisterschaft and Race exhausts are different. They both use the same SR pipes, but the mufflers are different. The Race exhaust sounds very mean, but its pretty loud and it does drone. The Meisterschaft sound is a perfect combination of loudness and tone IMO. Many say that it doesn't drone once its broken in, so even if it does, it would only be slightly. So, the Meisterschaft doesn't = the Race exhaust, they are different. Also, the Meisterschaft is available in 2x90 as well as 2x100, and quad tips as well. I believe that IND is the sole distributor for the 2x90 meisterschaft exhaust though, which is why you probably didn't see it on Eisenhaus' website, which only shows the quad system now. There are some pics floating around on here with the 100mm tips if you search. Personally, I think they are too big. 90mm seems to fill the stock cut outs perfectly.

thank you for info. gain wise are the race and masterchiefs the same just producing different sound? yea i was looking at the eisenhaus site and only found quads for the masterchiefs. i didn't know they made a 100mm along with a 102mm tip either.

[BoostedBMW]

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

thank you for info. gain wise are the race and masterchiefs the same just producing different sound? yea i was looking at the eisenhaus site and only found quads for the masterchiefs. i didn't know they made a 100mm along with a 102mm tip either.

Oh, i'm sorry that was a typo... I meant to say 102mm, my mistake.

All I can say is buy the exhaust that you want for the sound it makes, not the power gains because even if there was a difference in power between the Meisterschaft and the Race it would be so small that it really wouldn't make a difference since most of the power that you gain comes from deleting the secondary cats anyway. I haven't seen any dynos of each so I don't think anyone can say with certainty, but i'm willing to bet that the power differences are very slight, if any.

[OC Guy]

The Race is significantly louder than the Meistercraft.

[Ryan.M]

The 2x102mm tips will fit on the 335i without any melting of the rear diffuser. The Race Performance is our most aggressive sounding system that we offer for the E90/92/93 335i. The Meisterschaft Performance level has a nice deep throaty tone but is perfect for daily driving. We will be getting the Sport Performance systems in at the end of this month. I have been informed that the Sport Performance will sound very similar to the Meisterscahft but not as aggressive at WOT.

RACE/SPORT Performance 2x102mm tips

RACE/SPORT Performance 2x102mm tips

Race vs Meisterschaft 2x102mm

Meisterschaft Performance with 2x102mm tips

Just for fun The Special order only 2x90mm Meisterschaft Performance

[hl0m4n]

are the muffler tips interchangable?

so the race is louder>eisenhaus
under wot master>race

[Ryan.M]

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

are the muffler tips interchangable?

so the race is louder>eisenhaus
under wot master>race

The Race Performance is the loudest system under all conditions.

[B00sted335BMW]

Do NOT FORGET the drone with the RACE system..........if you have a low tolerance for Drone, then you will most likely not be able to handle to the race exhaust sound.........the Meisterchaft full system is 3K+, which to me is alot of money for an exhaust

[BoostedBMW]

Originally Posted by *****ed335BMW

Do NOT FORGET the drone with the RACE system..........if you have a low tolerance for Drone, then you will most likely not be able to handle to the race exhaust sound.........the Meisterchaft full system is 3K+, which to me is alot of money for an exhaust

A few board sponsors sell it for around $2500 shipped, which is still a lot for an exhaust, but it sounds so damn good.

[Ryan.M]

Originally Posted by BoostedBMW

A few board sponsors sell it for around $2500 shipped, which is still a lot for an exhaust, but it sounds so damn good.

Are you sure about that price? Eisenmann Germany just raised their pricing by 10%. The euro vs. USD is killing us

[OC Guy]

Originally Posted by Ryan@Eisenhaus

Are you sure about that price? Eisenmann Germany just raised their pricing by 10%. The euro vs. USD is killing us

Wow. Good thing I got mine when I did.

[BoostedBMW]

Originally Posted by Ryan@Eisenhaus

Are you sure about that price? Eisenmann Germany just raised their pricing by 10%. The euro vs. USD is killing us

Ok, I guess you are more up to date on things then me when it comes to Eisenmann products. I've been shopping exhausts all this past week so I guess that 10% price increase is pretty recent.

[SPC LV]

How come the meisterschaft 102mm tips dont have eisenmann engraved on them?

When will it be possible to order just the 90mm meisterschaft tips?

[TheLegacy]

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