Come On BMW Time To Step Up!

mact3333 · 03-20-2014, 09:32 PM

no need for words...just a pic.

mact3333 · 03-20-2014, 09:39 PM

guess for Audi it doesn't involve valves, this is for carbon buildup on the secondary air injection ports

Hoooper · 03-20-2014, 09:53 PM

I don't know, but secondary could just mean a second set of ports like our swirl valve ports

135i_vs_ · 03-21-2014, 08:43 AM

This very SAME problem exists in the E39 M5, since the secondary air ports are routed through the cylinder head instead (you'd think people would learn by now) of directly into the exhaust stream.

BMW did nothing then to cover this for the E39 M5 owners....

AzureHaze · 03-21-2014, 10:03 AM

So what year was this A4 and how many miles?

mact3333 · 03-21-2014, 01:13 PM

all owners from 09-12' on A4 and S4 got the letter is my understanding.

Quasimodem · 03-21-2014, 01:26 PM

So what exactly is a secondary air port? I thought that was where you land when the primary air port is snowed in.

I see these secondary air ports appear to be IN the head. Does this mean that the head has to be completely removed to do the cleaning or can the secondary air ports be cleaned with other parts removed and the head remains in place? If the head has to be removed for this cleaning, this is a major job -- kudos to Audi for taking one for the team.

Built4Sin · 03-21-2014, 01:41 PM

I'm wondering what leveraged Audi into implementing this... That is our salvation.

mact3333 · 03-21-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Built4Sin

I'm wondering what leveraged Audi into implementing this... That is our salvation.

common decency?...oh wait a minute, that won't work here..

joe_planet · 03-21-2014, 03:27 PM

until class action lawsuit they wont do anything... so better lawyer up

dzlmoose · 03-21-2014, 04:35 PM

My service advisor was telling me the new diesels are suffering the SES light as well. It seems there are quite a few irate BMW diesel owners.

We really need to start some kind organized action for this.

mact3333 · 03-21-2014, 06:45 PM

Im telling you guys, someone needs to step up start a dedicated website where we can collectively document the CBU issue...then send letters to BMWNA and Roundel magazine.

Once this type of momentum occurs then class action lawsuits will follow and then BMW will be forced to do something about this.

I have always said its just a matter of time before BMW extends warranties on diesels to 6 yrs or 100K miles...mark my words.

Ryebread · 03-24-2014, 11:01 PM

Go ahead and build it Mac.

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mact3333 Captain 126 Rep 876 Posts Drives: 16' YMB/Blk F82 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Portland Area iTrader: (1)	guess for Audi it doesn't involve valves, this is for carbon buildup on the secondary air injection ports
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Hoooper Colonel 213 Rep 2,210 Posts Drives: 335D Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Petaluma, CA iTrader: (0)	I don't know, but secondary could just mean a second set of ports like our swirl valve ports
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135i_vs_ Captain 75 Rep 697 Posts Drives: M5, 135i, 335d, F10 550xi Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	This very SAME problem exists in the E39 M5, since the secondary air ports are routed through the cylinder head instead (you'd think people would learn by now) of directly into the exhaust stream. BMW did nothing then to cover this for the E39 M5 owners....
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mact3333 Captain 126 Rep 876 Posts Drives: 16' YMB/Blk F82 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Portland Area iTrader: (1)	all owners from 09-12' on A4 and S4 got the letter is my understanding.
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Quasimodem Colonel 158 Rep 2,383 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 335d US [0.00]	So what exactly is a secondary air port? I thought that was where you land when the primary air port is snowed in. I see these secondary air ports appear to be IN the head. Does this mean that the head has to be completely removed to do the cleaning or can the secondary air ports be cleaned with other parts removed and the head remains in place? If the head has to be removed for this cleaning, this is a major job -- kudos to Audi for taking one for the team. __________________ Speakers: CDT Audio HD-42 comps--front doors (RAAMmat deadened), CDT ES-06 6.5" woofers--kickpanl Pods, Hertz EBX202R dual 8" ported trunk sub. Amps: Phoenix Gold RSd 500.4 (comps & pods). PG RSd 600.1 (sub). Power & Ground: 4AWG Streetwires w/RockFosgt RFDB1 distro blocks. Input: HU lineout--Kicker KISL RCA adapters--RockFosgt RFIT-6 cables--Audiocontrol Matrix--Monster cables--RSd 500.4--lineout Monstr Cabl to RSd 600.1. Last edited by Quasimodem; 03-21-2014 at 01:59 PM..
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dzlmoose Lieutenant 122 Rep 541 Posts Drives: Trek 7.2, 2001 M5 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0)	My service advisor was telling me the new diesels are suffering the SES light as well. It seems there are quite a few irate BMW diesel owners. We really need to start some kind organized action for this.
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mact3333 Captain 126 Rep 876 Posts Drives: 16' YMB/Blk F82 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Portland Area iTrader: (1)	Im telling you guys, someone needs to step up start a dedicated website where we can collectively document the CBU issue...then send letters to BMWNA and Roundel magazine. Once this type of momentum occurs then class action lawsuits will follow and then BMW will be forced to do something about this. I have always said its just a matter of time before BMW extends warranties on diesels to 6 yrs or 100K miles...mark my words.
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