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      03-21-2014, 03:01 PM   #1
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burger tuning vs ecs tuning wheel spacers!

Currently looking for wheel spacers for my front wheel maybe 10mm have anyone had experience with either brand? Which one is best? They are both the same price so it's an either, or question. Thanks
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They are both good quality in my experience. I've had both and never had issues with balance or fit.

Burger for me wins because it has built in notches in the back of the spacer to be able to remove easily. Doesn't immediately sound like a big deal, but when it comes time to remove them it can be difficult to remove without the notch. Spacers like ECS lie flat against the brake rotor making it nearly impossible to remove when corrosion, dirt, rust set in and jam the spacers on. People have resorted to ramming screw drivers in, using slide hammers on the rotor behind the spacer, or even using propane torches to heat the metal. These methods can destroy the spacers or at least marr them pretty badly. Notches are very handy because you can use two screw drivers to lift from behind the spacer with very little force. It's especially handy to people that have a second set of track day wheels they switch between. Imagine needing to take a propane torch to your car at the track? Not a pretty picture.

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How to Remove Flat Back Spacers (one more method)

Flat back spacer users can get very frustrated trying to remove these spacers. The method I used to remove mine was relatively pain free, still messy, but it was quick and did only minimal cosmetic damage to my spacers. You'll need the following tools (below). All you need to do to use this is to lie the chisel flat against the brake rotor and use the hammer to wedge the chisel in. You need the hammer because it's difficult to wedge the chisel in behind the spacer with out appllying pressure. The Stanley chisel is needed because it's super sharp and it's blade fits into the non-existent gap between the rotor and the spacer. I chose the stanley specifically because it has a lifetime no questions asked warranty and it has a large hammer friendly handle end. The chisel blade will only last removing one set of stuck spacers before it needs to be replaced.

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http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-56-705...ds=stanley+3lb

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      03-21-2014, 05:08 PM   #3
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You should consider VRSF Spacers too.

The VRSF is a forum sponsor and their spacers look the same as the one's offered by Burger's (they also have the pry tabs in the back to facilitate removal) but cost $20 less per pair. Just ordered 2 pairs of spacers from VRSF in 12mm and 15mm here and there was NO CHARGE for shipping.

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Installed the VRSF spacers that I received a couple of days ago. They look great (but could have actually gone a little thicker than 15mm in the rear) and there was absolutely NO vibration in the wheels before or after the installation. So, I'm very happy with them.
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For the most part, spacers are spacers. Find some that are reputable, have some removal points, and are the cheapest.
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I had the same choices to make and I ended up coming across the VRSF line up. They're cheaper, quickly shipped, and looks just like the BMS spacers. Free shipping if you buy a set for front and back I think.

Also there are Renn Motorsport spacers, seem to be a little more cheaper than VRSF http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=spacers
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cool thanks guys ill keep those in consideration!(: i want a set that won't give me any vibration on the wheels since I heard that they have to be hubcentric or something like that
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cool thanks guys ill keep those in consideration!(: i want a set that won't give me any vibration on the wheels since I heard that they have to be hubcentric or something like that
All the brands mentioned in this thread should be hubcentric.
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Get vac spacers, hands down the best.
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I went with Sonic Tuning, a forum sponser and also free shipping. easy to remove. The brand is Renn Motorsport.

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I went with Sonic Tuning, a forum sponser and also free shipping. easy to remove. The brand is Renn Motorsport.

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How you like them? Any vibration on top speeds?
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How you like them? Any vibration on top speeds?
They are good!! Only have the 5 mm ones. Have heard not to get 10 mm for front though due to the hub lip not being large enough. I think a hub extender is probably the right thing to do to run 10 mm front spacers safely. Some have run them though. Haven't tested at >100 mpg lol!

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How you like them? Any vibration on top speeds?
They are good!! Only have the 5 mm ones. Have heard not to get 10 mm for front though due to the hub lip not being large enough. I think a hub extender is probably the right thing to do to run 10 mm front spacers safely. Some have run them though. Haven't tested at >100 mpg lol!

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I wanna get on that >100 mpg level!

Rogue Engineering spacers are awesome and light weight.
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I have used burger motorsport spacers for a few years. 3 different sets on 2 different cars. Theyve been nothing but perfect for me.
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Get vac spacers, hands down the best.
+eleventy billion. Over engineered perfection... But it's VAC so no surprise there right??

http://store.vacmotorsports.com/bill...m-hub-p70.aspx
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+eleventy billion. Over engineered perfection... But it's VAC so no surprise there right??

http://store.vacmotorsports.com/bill...m-hub-p70.aspx
totally agree.
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Can I run a 10mm spacer with a 70 or 75mm wheel stud kit?
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Burger. For 3 years with no problem.
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I have the 12mm and 20mm macht schnell ones and I love them. They cost about $20 more a set than these other ones but I'd rather have the peace of mind with my wheels..don't want them flying off one day lol
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We've sold dozens of kits with nothing but fantastic feedback and we've even replaced some of the less expensive spacers mentioned here due to vibration issues.

I'd be weary of kits that reduced material significantly & claim it's for "weight savings". In reality it's because the cost per unit is based on weight so they save a lot while creating a less rigid product. It also makes them prone to flexing which causes vibration & wobbling.

You also may want to consider that while some kits include extended bolts (ours do), others do not. Make sure that's factored into the price before making your purchase.
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We've sold dozens of kits with nothing but fantastic feedback and we've even replaced some of the less expensive spacers mentioned here due to vibration issues.

I'd be weary of kits that reduced material significantly & claim it's for "weight savings". In reality it's because the cost per unit is based on weight so they save a lot while creating a less rigid product. It also makes them prone to flexing which causes vibration & wobbling.

You also may want to consider that while some kits include extended bolts (ours do), others do not. Make sure that's factored into the price before making your purchase.
Which ones do you offer? Thanks
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I have the 12mm and 20mm macht schnell ones and I love them. They cost about $20 more a set than these other ones but I'd rather have the peace of mind with my wheels..don't want them flying off one day lol
What's the width on your wheels? Idk if I should go 5 or 10 on the back I'm running 10.5 rears and 9.5 fronts
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