[ThomasMartin]

Hey Guys

Just got my V2 today and it was a stressfull install, by mistake i loosened one of the wires from the original harness and couldnt see it cause they all taped over. Damn it took me the whole day but i got it all installed im thinking my ECU still has to adapt hey cause i dont feel an amazing difference.

Quick question if im running RON 95 fuel is is safe to bump all the torque values up to 100%?

And secondly does your firmware ver still say V1 in the vushnu software?

[Dr_Dirt]

Originally Posted by ThomasMartin

Hey Guys

Just got my V2 today and it was a stressfull install, by mistake i loosened one of the wires from the original harness and couldnt see it cause they all taped over. Damn it took me the whole day but i got it all installed im thinking my ECU still has to adapt hey cause i dont feel an amazing difference.

Quick question if im running RON 95 fuel is is safe to bump all the torque values up to 100%?

And secondly does your firmware ver still say V1 in the vushnu software?

Do you know the MON?
We use (RON+MON)/2 to get our octane #.
Generally 95 RON is equivalent to 91 (RON+MON)/2 so don't crank it up too far....
http://www.btinternet.com/~madmole/R...RONMONPON.html

[ThomasMartin]

Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

Do you know the MON?
We use (RON+MON)/2 to get our octane #.
Generally 95 RON is equivalent to 91 (RON+MON)/2 so don't crank it up too far....

We have 93 oct and 95 oct available here in south africa dont know what MON they are?

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by ThomasMartin

Hey Guys

Just got my V2 today and it was a stressfull install, by mistake i loosened one of the wires from the original harness and couldnt see it cause they all taped over. Damn it took me the whole day but i got it all installed im thinking my ECU still has to adapt hey cause i dont feel an amazing difference.

Quick question if im running RON 95 fuel is is safe to bump all the torque values up to 100%?

And secondly does your firmware ver still say V1 in the vushnu software?

You cannot set the torque values to 100%, for this you need 100 octane RON ( = 95-96 octane AKI )

- Eugen

[supertech335]

Originally Posted by e.n335

You cannot set the torque values to 100%, for this you need 100 octane RON ( = 95-96 octane AKI )

- Eugen

isn't 95-96 octane race gas? so why do people say you can run 100% on 93?
i know your gas is different there just wondering if i am understanding that right or if i missed something
thanks

[ThomasMartin]

Originally Posted by supertech335

isn't 95-96 octane race gas? so why do people say you can run 100% on 93?
i know your gas is different there just wondering if i am understanding that right or if i missed something
thanks

Been checking on the petrol company sites, they just say 95 octane so im trying to get more info

[M3to335]

ThomasMartin,

Im in the same boat. I honestly cant tell any significant difference with V2.

[ThomasMartin]

Originally Posted by M3to335

ThomasMartin,

Im in the same boat. I honestly cant tell any significant difference with V2.

Ill just give it a few days to adjust plus iv cracked up the torque values 2% each and next week ill go past the dyno and compare this run to one i did a few weeks ago with V1 ill post the results

[e.n335]

Shiv says use 100% across the board with 96 octane gas. This is AKI, the US standard. In Europe we have RON. Rule of thumb: AKI + 4.5 = RON. So 96 octane AKI + 4.5 = 100.5 octane RON.

Originally Posted by ThomasMartin

Ill just give it a few days to adjust plus iv cracked up the torque values 2% each and next week ill go past the dyno and compare this run to one i did a few weeks ago with V1 ill post the results

Don't risk a knocking engine, pistons can crack or break.

- Eugen

[supertech335]

Originally Posted by e.n335

Shiv says use 100% across the board with 96 octane gas. This is AKI, the US standard. In Europe we have RON. Rule of thumb: AKI + 4.5 = RON. So 96 octane AKI + 4.5 = 100.5 octane RON.



Don't risk a knocking engine, pistons can crack or break.

- Eugen

thanks for clearing that up, so in your opion, v2 at 100% is like a race gas map. is it safe to say that?

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by supertech335

thanks for clearing that up, so in your opion, v2 at 100% is like a race gas map. is it safe to say that?

In Germany, Austria and Switzerland you get 100 octane RON ( Shell ) at the gas station, price slightly higher as 98 octane ( ~ 93 octane AKI ). So it's not really race gas.

The torque settings are great to design your own torque curve. I have a steptronic and set the low rpms to 92%, so the start is not harsh at all. In the midrange I use slightly lower settings than Shiv, just to avoid stressing the tranny. In the high rpm range I use 95% to avoid stressing the fuel system. You can play with the torque settings . These values are for 2.0.2beta.

This said, leftcoastman raced his car with 2.0.2beta 100% across the board for 4.5 hours on a track. He used 96 octane AKI without any problems.

The N54 engine and PROcede V2 are great, you just have to be careful when you use higher than Shiv's default settings. There is a reason why Shiv provides default torque settings, not 100% across the board.

- Eugen

[ThomasMartin]

Originally Posted by e.n335

In Germany, Austria and Switzerland you get 100 octane RON ( Shell ) at the gas station, price slightly higher as 98 octane ( ~ 93 octane AKI ). So it's not really race gas.

The torque settings are great to design your own torque curve. I have a steptronic and set the low rpms to 92%, so the start is not harsh at all. In the midrange I use slightly lower settings than Shiv, just to avoid stressing the tranny. In the high rpm range I use 95% to avoid stressing the fuel system. You can play with the torque settings . These values are for 2.0.2beta.

This said, leftcoastman raced his car with 2.0.2beta 100% across the board for 4.5 hours on a track. He used 96 octane AKI without any problems.

The N54 engine and PROcede V2 are great, you just have to be careful when you use higher than Shiv's default settings. There is a reason why Shiv provides default torque settings, not 100% across the board.

- Eugen

Please share that 2.0.2 beta PM me

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by ThomasMartin

Please share that 2.0.2 beta PM me

I can't send you the map.

[ThomasMartin]

Originally Posted by e.n335

I can't send you the map.

Cant is always a word defeated by will....Come on m8 pm me

[ThomasMartin]

So petrol here in south africa follows europe in 95 RON being the same as 91 in the US??????

[ThomasMartin]

SO if i up the torque values 2% will i beging to knock???? what do you guys think should i lower to standard V2?

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by ThomasMartin

SO if i up the torque values 2% will i beging to knock???? what do you guys think should i lower to standard V2?

You could try increasing by 2% across the board and see how it does; you do run a higher octane than all of us here in the U.S. However, running @ 100% across the board could still increase the chances of a problem.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by ThomasMartin

SO if i up the torque values 2% will i beging to knock???? what do you guys think should i lower to standard V2?

Keep the standard settings. If the engine stutters or will knock, use my v2.0.1 settings posted on this forum. Some people had issues with v2.0.1. Those are solved with v2.0.2beta. v2.0.2final is expected next week. Unplug the car's black battery wire for 1 hour to force the ECU to learn from scratch. Be nice to your car .

Originally Posted by sflgator

You could try increasing by 2% across the board and see how it does; you do run a higher octane than all of us here in the U.S. However, running @ 100% across the board could still increase the chances of a problem.

He is using 95 octane RON = 90.5 octane AKI (US).

- Eugen

[ThomasMartin]

Originally Posted by sflgator

You could try increasing by 2% across the board and see how it does; you do run a higher octane than all of us here in the U.S. However, running @ 100% across the board could still increase the chances of a problem.

Dumb ass newb question... if the car knocks will i actually feel a shudder or will the ecu just retard timing and give less performance?

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by ThomasMartin

Dumb ass newb question... if the car knocks will i actually feel a shudder or will the ecu just retard timing and give less performance?

You will hear fast clicking and probably get a limp mode. You are NOT using higher octane than most of us, you use the minimum required octane rating.

Originally Posted by sflgator

You could try increasing by 2% across the board and see how it does; you do run a higher octane than all of us here in the U.S. However, running @ 100% across the board could still increase the chances of a problem.

- Eugen

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by supertech335

thanks for clearing that up, so in your opion, v2 at 100% is like a race gas map. is it safe to say that?

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by kyleh4852

Use 100% across the board with 96+ octane AKI = 100+ octane RON only.

- Eugen