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      11-30-2007, 05:39 AM   #1
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Procede v2 & JB2R dynos graphs. *graphs inside* *Mustang dyno*

First of all, this is not another BASH tuners thread. Please take the info here as a grain of salt.

Myself and Jon went to Logic Motorsports to do some dyno runs to compare both cars.

Mine with v2.0.2, exhaust, HFC DP, custom FMIC, stock intake box / filter.

Jon's with JB2R, exhaust, BMC filter.


Anyways the night before he went to Terry's to check if everything was fine with his JB2R tune and Terry fixed his boost problem. So today we wanted to check the differences between the two on a dyno.

Anyways we were both on 96 octane. Both on the same dyno same day.


Ok well heres some back round on the dyno.

This is a mustang dyno. A stock e46 m3 dynoed 249 rwhp on it. It read a around 20-25 rwhp lower than a dynojet, same goes with tq.

Tonight it was 77 degree's outside. Both numbers are there SAE corrected and uncorrected for all you people to see.


I dont have Jons graphs but he dynoed 324 rwhp and 406 wtq uncorrected.

Both the procede and the JBR2 have the same power curves except for tq curves. The procede seems to have more in the higher rpm band.

Both cars were boosting 14-15 psi.

We will go back and dyno the cars on 91 octane when we get the time.























Heres my dyno numbers... Glory run. Probably 400 rwhp on a dyno jet




Comparison average graph between my power curves vs Jons. (These are average numbers of our runs, not peak graphs)



Did a 1/4 mile run on it for fun. (Jons car pulled a 12.7@110)





Runs


Some are in 2nd some are in 3rd.









Heres a close one between myself and jon.

This was where my clutch started to not catch after a sec. Seriously tho on average in 3rd Im about 2 solid cars ahead. Maybe 3 in 2nd. or 2.5CL.




EDIT

Ok heres the runs my glory run vs jons glory run. My glory run is the one with 480 wtq.

I cranked up the % by a few to see what it would spike, and they never went above 16.4 psi on 96 octane. Also I have more free flow mods than jon.

With base settings im at 15 psi. Never above 15.5 psi. Ill have to figure out a way to smooth out the power band and then redyno.

On the road 15.5 vs 14.5 psi is about 2 Cl's and 16.4 vs 14.5 is about 3-4 Cl's.

I still have to play with the car to fix the curves and smooth everything out. Next week Ill try to fit it in and see if I can fix those

But its not the dyno. Those are really the numbers.


PSI.




AFR




IAT


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Thanks guys. I was pretty happy with the numbers as it being a mustang dyno.
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Man that was fun we must have did like 30 pulls combined lol.
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Man that was fun we must have did like 30 pulls combined lol.
Ya hahah fun day. Learned alot out the cars.
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Ya hahah fun day. Learned alot out the cars.
9Hours worth of dyno time will do that lol.
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9Hours worth of dyno time will do that lol.
Hahahah ya.


Ok uploaded the rest of the pictures and stuff.
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480 tq
Im going to go to the dynojet place where I dynoed my car before.

Probably break 400 whp and 500 wtq...
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Im going to go to the dynojet place where I dynoed my car before.

Probably break 400 whp and 500 wtq...
Dude your car is fukin unreal...I gotta check it out when I come down to Socal!!!
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Dude your car is fukin unreal...I gotta check it out when I come down to Socal!!!
Thanks a lot. But I really dont have a freak car. Stock it dynoed on a dynojet 268-273rwhp 282 wtq stock on 91.

I forgot about the wtq. I have to see if I can find it around here.
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Am I reading this correct? You made 371 rwhp and 473 rwtq? The only thing I don't understand is that you torque line is blue since it is falling toward redline, so it should correspond to the left scale, yet that would indicate about 430 rwtq. However if the blue line corresponds to the right scale then the numbers make sense. Anyone else seeing this?

Those numbers are really amazing. I cannot believe you are nearing 500 rwtq.
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Am I reading this correct? You made 371 rwhp and 473 rwtq? The only thing I don't understand is that you torque line is blue since it is falling toward redline, so it should correspond to the left scale, yet that would indicate about 430 rwtq. However if the blue line corresponds to the right scale then the numbers make sense. Anyone else seeing this?

Those numbers are really amazing. I cannot believe you are nearing 500 rwtq.
The graph is an average run plot between the 2 cars. Thats not our peak number graphs.

Heat soaked on an average I was hitting like 450-460 wtq and like 370 whp.

Its a mustang dyno it reads lower than a dynojet.
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Gotta say, numbers don't lie. When drag racing, there are so many variables involved. Put two cars on the same dyno and it's easier to compare, apples to apples.

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Oh man, just think, 480 rwt is not good on those autos. I think I'll change the tranny option on my car from 6AT to 6MT if its not too late to change.
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Thanks guys. I was pretty happy with the numbers as it being a mustang dyno.
Im misunderstanderstanding something, u said u had the same power, but ur torque was higher, how come u dynoed at 370 and he dynoed at 324?
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Im misunderstanderstanding something, u said u had the same power, but ur torque was higher, how come u dynoed at 370 and he dynoed at 324?
Sorry I bviously missed the word "curves"
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Oh man, just think, 480 rwt is not good on those autos. I think I'll change the tranny option on my car from 6AT to 6MT if its not too late to change.
DING DING DING!
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Im misunderstanderstanding something, u said u had the same power, but ur torque was higher, how come u dynoed at 370 and he dynoed at 324?
what?

I never said that. I said same dyno same day same octane.
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WOW both cars are making some crazy torque numbers



Off topic did you guys run again now that Jon's boost is fix. I'm sure the outcome is going to be the same but just asking.
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