IS350 owner scammed...

E90ice · 12-02-2007, 02:28 PM

from Clublexus.com
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"So I sold my 06 IS350 like two weeks ago for 31K. The buyer came from Chicago to purchase my car and drive it back. He ask me to write on the title I am giving it to him as a gift so he doesnt have to pay taxes in Illinois. I told him I couldnt do that. He mentioned Illinois tax is 6%. So he asked can I write the Bill of Sale at 24K. I told him I could do that. So when he came to Boston, he gaved me a Bank of America Certified check for 24K. And gave me a Pentagon Federal Credit Union Loan check for 7K. So I gave him the car signed the title to him, and a Bill of Sale for 24K bc he wanted to save on taxes. Now I get a notice from my bank that the PFCU loan check he gave me it bounced, a stop payment was issued on it. This guy is 900 miles away and has my car, my title, and I dont have the rest of my money. I call the guy and there is no answer on his phone. I emailed him also, still no response. What can I do ? Can I take him to small claims court ? Please help me. Thanks"

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321668
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I feel for the guy, but what he did was simply dumb.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 02:35 PM

oh man, that really sucks.I feel bad for him. 7G's!

dcaero · 12-02-2007, 02:37 PM

That is just terrible. I think I would have simply told the guy that I don't want to sell the car to him after he asked me to defraud the state...lame

NaTuReB0Y · 12-02-2007, 02:40 PM

C.O.D. is the best way to go......

good luck getting your money.........

davedave · 12-02-2007, 02:42 PM

that's suck ... wish that guy best of luck

12-02-2007, 02:46 PM

Taken from E46.... so are u too the same person? I mean it sounds kinda conflicting and ur stories both sound the same to me? But slightly different facts and worded the same way...

eh?

From needforspeed617@e46fanatics

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So I sold my 04 330CI Vert like two weeks ago for 28K. The buyer came from Chicago to purchase my car and drive it back. He ask me to write on the title I am giving it to him as a gift so he doesnt have to pay taxes in Illinois. I told him I couldnt do that. He mentioned Illinois tax is 6%. So he asked can I write the Bill of Sale at 21K. I told him I could do that. So when he came to Boston, he gaved me a Bank of America Certified check for 21K. And gave me a Pentagon Federal Credit Union Loan check for 7K. So I gave him the car signed the title to him, and a Bill of Sale for 21K bc he wanted to save on taxes. Now I get a notice from my bank that the PFCU loan check he gave me it bounced, a stop payment was issued on it. This guy is 900 miles away and has my car, my title, and I dont have the rest of my money. I call the guy and there is no answer on his phone. I emailed him also, still no response. What can I do ? Can I take him to small claims court ? Please help me. Thanks

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpos...21&postcount=1

Edit: After reading it, not you, but that person... seems to be fishy.. an IS then a BMW? Conflicting...

wesley_willis · 12-02-2007, 03:00 PM

haha uh oh... is that the scammer seeking if he can get away scot free? the suspense continues...

Mikewarlover · 12-02-2007, 03:26 PM

seems to be no way to get the money back
too bad for u

E90ice · 12-02-2007, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAMEOVR

Taken from E46.... so are u too the same person? I mean it sounds kinda conflicting and ur stories both sound the same to me? But slightly different facts and worded the same way...

eh?

From needforspeed617@e46fanatics

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpos...21&postcount=1

Edit: After reading it, not you, but that person... seems to be fishy.. an IS then a BMW? Conflicting...

Wow. Thats really interesting.

dcaero · 12-02-2007, 04:05 PM

Maybe the guy is just explaining his story on a BMW forum to get more opinions. He could have felt the need to change the car to a BMW so people actually cared and it didn't just turn into a flame fest.

dcaero · 12-02-2007, 04:07 PM

On his E46fanatics post it says his rides are a '04 330CI Vert, IS350' This is definitely a weird story.

Etnies · 12-02-2007, 04:43 PM

Some of you don't seem to realize E90Ice was merely copy/pasting the story, not speaking in first person about himself.

NPDAN · 12-02-2007, 04:53 PM

Do you have any contract signed by the buyer elsewhere stating the sale price of 30k. If not, I think your screwed...

Nevermind, just realized it's not you.... That person is screwed...

isabayo · 12-02-2007, 07:16 PM

I just sold a vehicle via private party sale...i made sure he brought cash and I made it clear to him that if he brings a check I will not hand over anything to him until it clears. I'm pretty sure that guy didn't call the number on the check to verify it.

ChadE · 12-02-2007, 07:28 PM

Damn i just saw this very similar story on e46 earlier today....very odd

canucklion · 12-02-2007, 07:45 PM

I feel bad for him, BUT I always make sure the check is cleared before handing over the product

jojogargoles · 12-02-2007, 08:02 PM

this is some story.... cant wait for more info....

billspreston · 12-02-2007, 08:07 PM

Chi town guys hunt him down!

12-02-2007, 08:17 PM

It seems fake as he was called out on e46 by me. Then proceeded to go to Lexus board and change it to... BMW 330ci, then back to Lexus (when they questioned) .. Then suddenly posted in his rides: Lexus IS (was added)

Weirddddddd

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 08:20 PM

WTF would anyone make up stories like that. I dont get it.

nyczyang27 · 12-02-2007, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fotios330i

WTF would anyone make up stories like that. I dont get it.

theres people of every kind, any kind out there.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-02-2007, 08:49 PM

craziness.

12-02-2007, 02:28 PM	#1
E90ice Banned 220 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: WA iTrader: (0)	IS350 owner scammed... from Clublexus.com ------------------ "So I sold my 06 IS350 like two weeks ago for 31K. The buyer came from Chicago to purchase my car and drive it back. He ask me to write on the title I am giving it to him as a gift so he doesnt have to pay taxes in Illinois. I told him I couldnt do that. He mentioned Illinois tax is 6%. So he asked can I write the Bill of Sale at 24K. I told him I could do that. So when he came to Boston, he gaved me a Bank of America Certified check for 24K. And gave me a Pentagon Federal Credit Union Loan check for 7K. So I gave him the car signed the title to him, and a Bill of Sale for 24K bc he wanted to save on taxes. Now I get a notice from my bank that the PFCU loan check he gave me it bounced, a stop payment was issued on it. This guy is 900 miles away and has my car, my title, and I dont have the rest of my money. I call the guy and there is no answer on his phone. I emailed him also, still no response. What can I do ? Can I take him to small claims court ? Please help me. Thanks" http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321668 ------------------------------------ I feel for the guy, but what he did was simply dumb. __________________ Last edited by E90ice; 12-02-2007 at 04:49 PM..
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12-02-2007, 02:37 PM	#3
dcaero Private 15 Rep 72 Posts Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0)	That is just terrible. I think I would have simply told the guy that I don't want to sell the car to him after he asked me to defraud the state...lame __________________ 2006 BMW M3 \| SMG \| Jet Black \| Black Nappa Leather \| Titan Shadow Trim \| HK Prem Audio
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12-02-2007, 02:42 PM	#5
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12-02-2007, 03:00 PM	#7
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12-02-2007, 03:26 PM	#8
Mikewarlover Major 42 Rep 1,165 Posts Drives: white Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Richmond BC iTrader: (0)	seems to be no way to get the money back too bad for u
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12-02-2007, 04:05 PM	#10
dcaero Private 15 Rep 72 Posts Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0)	Maybe the guy is just explaining his story on a BMW forum to get more opinions. He could have felt the need to change the car to a BMW so people actually cared and it didn't just turn into a flame fest. __________________ 2006 BMW M3 \| SMG \| Jet Black \| Black Nappa Leather \| Titan Shadow Trim \| HK Prem Audio
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dcaero Private 15 Rep 72 Posts Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0)	On his E46fanatics post it says his rides are a '04 330CI Vert, IS350' This is definitely a weird story. __________________ 2006 BMW M3 \| SMG \| Jet Black \| Black Nappa Leather \| Titan Shadow Trim \| HK Prem Audio
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12-02-2007, 04:43 PM	#12
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12-02-2007, 04:53 PM	#13
NPDAN Colonel 100 Rep 2,572 Posts Drives: AW DCT M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So.Cal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [8.00] 07' E92 335i [0.00]	Do you have any contract signed by the buyer elsewhere stating the sale price of 30k. If not, I think your screwed... Nevermind, just realized it's not you.... That person is screwed... __________________
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12-02-2007, 07:16 PM	#14
isabayo First Lieutenant 44 Rep 319 Posts Drives: G05 X5 50i M Sport Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD iTrader: (7)	I just sold a vehicle via private party sale...i made sure he brought cash and I made it clear to him that if he brings a check I will not hand over anything to him until it clears. I'm pretty sure that guy didn't call the number on the check to verify it.
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12-02-2007, 07:28 PM	#15
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12-02-2007, 07:45 PM	#16
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12-02-2007, 08:02 PM	#17
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12-02-2007, 08:07 PM	#18
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12-02-2007, 08:17 PM	#19
amazzzin Guest 0 Rep n/a Posts Drives:	It seems fake as he was called out on e46 by me. Then proceeded to go to Lexus board and change it to... BMW 330ci, then back to Lexus (when they questioned) .. Then suddenly posted in his rides: Lexus IS (was added) Weirddddddd
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