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      06-06-2014, 04:27 AM   #1
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***Do all BMW 335i's have the manual option even the ones w/o the sport package?**

I've been shopping around for a 2007-2008 BMW 335i and have gotten many offers but a lot of them didn't have paddle-shifters liked I want so then I figured out that paddle-shifters can be added quite easily if the vehicle already has manual option. So my question is, do all 335i's have the manual option even if they don't have the sports package? I've asked around and have gotten mixed answers (even from BMW workers via phone). I'm wondering because this would mean I could buy any 335i without paddle-shifters and eventually add them aftermarket which makes my market search open up a lot more.
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Yes. Just push the stick into sport mode and then move up to downshift and down to upshift.
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To answer your question, yes. Every 335i with an automatic steptronic transmission has "manual" mode. Some of these cars have paddle shifters, some don't. A 335i with a true manual transmission will not have paddle shifters.

I don't believe you can easily add paddle shifters to an auto car that doesn't already have them though. There would definitely be some coding involved as well as a complete steering wheel swap.
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Why not just get the real thing? Nothing beats 3 pedals...
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To answer your question, yes. Every 335i with an automatic steptronic transmission has "manual" mode. Some of these cars have paddle shifters, some don't. A 335i with a true manual transmission will not have paddle shifters.

I don't believe you can easily add paddle shifters to an auto car that doesn't already have them though. There would definitely be some coding involved as well as a complete steering wheel swap.
Really? Look

http://www.burgertuning.com/paddleshift.html
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Why not just get the real thing? Nothing beats 3 pedals...
I agree. But they offer this:

http://www.burgertuning.com/paddleshift.html

Looks like 3 pedals to me
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Yes. Just push the stick into sport mode and then move up to downshift and down to upshift.
Thanks for the quick answer I was looking for.
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      06-06-2014, 10:56 PM   #8
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I agree. But they offer this:

http://www.burgertuning.com/paddleshift.html

Looks like 3 pedals to me
Wait...what? You can't add paddle shifters to a true manual car. Well, you can but it would be pretty dumb as it won't do anything.
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      06-06-2014, 11:06 PM   #9
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What?

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Wait...what? You can't add paddle shifters to a true manual car. Well, you can but it would be pretty dumb as it won't do anything.
I'm not sure why you thought I said that but yeah I guess you could. I been talking about automatic transmissions this whole time... ?

EDIT: I see what your saying. I thought original OP meant M3 paddle-shifters when he said 3 pedals as many refer to the M3 as just the 3. I see now. He meant clutch, gas, brake I guess? Confused at first
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Wait...what? You can't add paddle shifters to a true manual car. Well, you can but it would be pretty dumb as it won't do anything.
Well Chevy did with the C7, but that's different story...
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Why not just get the real thing? Nothing beats 3 pedals...
Ut oh, you said it...
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Why not just get the real thing? Nothing beats 3 pedals...
I am guessing the OP wants to have a fast car, hence his choice of a steptronic over the manual.
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Ut oh, you said it...
Lol, too bad I can't afford M3. Otherwise I would have gotten one. I can afford the older model M3's but i don't like the way they look. And last time I checked, the 335i's compete with the older M3's. 0-60 in 4.8 seconds stock on a 335i. And they look a lot better and have a lot more features compared to the old M3's. I only paid $9,000 for my 335i with 124,000 miles..
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I am guessing the OP wants to have a fast car, hence his choice of a steptronic over the manual.
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not... lol
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I am guessing the OP wants to have a fast car, hence his choice of a steptronic over the manual.
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not... lol
No sarcasm. A steptronic is faster than the manual in the hands of most drivers.
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No sarcasm. A steptronic is faster than the manual in the hands of most drivers.
Ok, good. So many dicks on this sight so I'm always skeptical. lol
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No sarcasm. A steptronic is faster than the manual in the hands of most drivers.
Ok, good. So many dicks on this sight so I'm always skeptical. lol
Check out "BMW 335i auto v manual" on YouTube. Good video.
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Check out "BMW 335i auto v manual" on YouTube. Good video.
Not sure if I watched exact video you mentioned but I did find a couple of good ones. You think automatic is faster than the manual version while it's in manual mode with shift knob or when paddle-shifters are being used? Or both faster than manual version? Never heard that automatic versions were faster than manual versions.. I always figured it was at-least .1 slower during the 0-60 with the automatic. Good news if it is faster since I do own an automatic
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Check out "BMW 335i auto v manual" on YouTube. Good video.
Not sure if I watched exact video you mentioned but I did find a couple of good ones. You think automatic is faster than the manual version while it's in manual mode with shift knob or when paddle-shifters are being used? Or both faster than manual version? Never heard that automatic versions were faster than manual versions.. I always figured it was at-least .1 slower during the 0-60 with the automatic. Good news if it is faster since I do own an automatic
It's faster in both modes. Plus, the auto is always fast. You really have to push the manual to match it, and lost people don't drive their manuals anywhere close to that day in and say out. So the auto just feels like a faster car.
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Did you read all the fine print?

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In addition to the harness, install guide, and tech support we provide you with the OEM BMW part numbers required to complete the retrofit. You will also need to separately purchase a paddle shift steering wheel (one with cutouts for paddles) , the paddle shifters, and the exact steering wheel control module (buttons on the wheel) we list.
So yes, really. You would need a whole new steering wheel and there would be some coding involved, that coding is what the Burger package is selling.
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Exactly!!
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I've been shopping around for a 2007-2008 BMW 335i and have gotten many offers but a lot of them didn't have paddle-shifters liked I want so then I figured out that paddle-shifters can be added quite easily if the vehicle already has manual option. So my question is, do all 335i's have the manual option even if they don't have the sports package? I've asked around and have gotten mixed answers (even from BMW workers via phone). I'm wondering because this would mean I could buy any 335i without paddle-shifters and eventually add them aftermarket which makes my market search open up a lot more.
Wait and find one with the paddles and sport option.
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