Cam ledger bearing. LOOK!

shmorgan77 · 06-16-2014, 11:36 AM

So dropped my car off last night to do the cam ledger bearing. I was honestly quite skeptical if it was the problem or not cause it's been hit or miss but a lot more missing. (With the maintenance that is). Markert Motorworks is doing the job, as they do all of the work on the car. They got it off surprisingly quick and sent me a picture.

It's like you wouldn't be able to tell it was messed up if there wasn't a new one to compare it too.

Just getting a text saying the intake side is messed up as well. Looks like I'm doing intake and exhaust, YAY

06-16-2014, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shmorgan77

Drives: BMW 135i

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shmorgan77 · 06-16-2014, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by benharding

What engine is this on.

**N54 section**

SM335i · 06-16-2014, 01:08 PM

Why does this happen??

shmorgan77 · 06-16-2014, 01:19 PM

Here is the intake side. Same wear

shmorgan77 · 06-16-2014, 01:40 PM

Oops posted the wrong picture. This is the intake side

11SEC · 06-16-2014, 02:02 PM

what are you looking at $$$ to fix?

shmorgan77 · 06-16-2014, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 11SEC

what are you looking at $$$ to fix?

I think somewhere around 1000-1100. I'm not sure yet.

shawntech · 06-16-2014, 02:28 PM

what are the symptoms?

Ingeniator · 06-16-2014, 02:28 PM

History on motor, Frequency of oil changes? Looks like the bearings started to spin. Have you had any past history of vanos codes?

shmorgan77 · 06-16-2014, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ls3c6

what are the symptoms?

Do a pull then get off the gas slowing back down, limp mode. It works fine when there is oil pressure there. But when you are off of it. It freaks. it also doesn't do it much on map 5. Map 6 23 psi and aggressive-ish timing it does a lot. So it's a load issue I believe.

shmorgan77 · 06-16-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingeniator

History on motor, Frequency of oil changes? Looks like the bearings started to spin. Have you had any past history of vanos codes?

When I purchased the car about a year ago, the valve cover was busted. Did that immediately. Oil changed every 5k but now do 3k since the rb's. Only recently got vanos codes.

Ingeniator · 06-16-2014, 02:39 PM

Looking again that is the surface for the mechanical vanos I think. Do you have any pictures of those and the cam shafts?

shmorgan77 · 06-16-2014, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingeniator

Looking again that is the surface for the mechanical vanos I think. Do you have any pictures of those and the cam shafts?

No I don't. Trying to get some though

shmorgan77 · 06-16-2014, 03:10 PM

No pictures of cams. And car is already back together. But here are some more

shmorgan77 · 06-16-2014, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SM335i

Why does this happen??

I think it's the ring seals that do it. They just rub. Design flaw I guess

SabreE82 · 06-16-2014, 03:23 PM

Sorry to hear. Just rebuilt my engine myself so I know the feel. It's not hard at all to replace these trays, they are also quite affordable, however if you factor in the need to purchase the special tools for both timing and cam ledge alignment, you end up paying pretty much the same.

This may have been answered, but what symptoms were you experiencing?

11SEC · 06-16-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shmorgan77

Do a pull then get off the gas slowing back down, limp mode. It works fine when there is oil pressure there. But when you are off of it. It freaks. it also doesn't do it much on map 5. Map 6 23 psi and aggressive-ish timing it does a lot. So it's a load issue I believe.

23 psi????!!! Why are you pushing the car so hard...jeez

AWTT335i · 06-16-2014, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 11SEC

23 psi????!!! Why are you pushing the car so hard...jeez

Because RB turbos....

11SEC · 06-16-2014, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AWTT335i

Because RB turbos....

I'm pretty sure with RB turbos you're suppose to go 20-21psi max

AWTT335i · 06-16-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 11SEC

I'm pretty sure with RB turbos you're suppose to go 20-21psi max

No issues pushing up to 25psi in the lower rev range. You just dont want to try to maintain that up to redline

11SEC · 06-16-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AWTT335i

No issues pushing up to 25psi in the lower rev range. You just dont want to try to maintain that up to redline

I've seen hundreds of RB logs and NEVER have I seen anyone push them higher than 20-21 psi.

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Ingeniator Major 34 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: 07 335XI(90) 09 135I(82) Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Fort Mac, Alberta iTrader: (1)	History on motor, Frequency of oil changes? Looks like the bearings started to spin. Have you had any past history of vanos codes? __________________ 07 335XI (A008006) 6AT ~94K miles JB4 G5 ISO VSRF DP's 09 135I M (VK80379) 6MT. Race Project car. 1) Install Cobb/piggyback? and Motiv 600 Kit[HTA3076R w/ tial .82] 2) JRZ or Moton suspension. 3) Build high flow intake manifold with multi-port fuel and relocate OFH 4) Build full cage 5) Complete staged twin setup with HTA4205R [w/Tial 1.16] 6) Complete dry sump system
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Ingeniator Major 34 Rep 1,093 Posts Drives: 07 335XI(90) 09 135I(82) Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Fort Mac, Alberta iTrader: (1)	Looking again that is the surface for the mechanical vanos I think. Do you have any pictures of those and the cam shafts? __________________ 07 335XI (A008006) 6AT ~94K miles JB4 G5 ISO VSRF DP's 09 135I M (VK80379) 6MT. Race Project car. 1) Install Cobb/piggyback? and Motiv 600 Kit[HTA3076R w/ tial .82] 2) JRZ or Moton suspension. 3) Build high flow intake manifold with multi-port fuel and relocate OFH 4) Build full cage 5) Complete staged twin setup with HTA4205R [w/Tial 1.16] 6) Complete dry sump system
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