F80 M3 alpha tune 480rwhp...

Myrder · 06-16-2014, 03:14 PM

Looks like FBO will be needed to keep up stock and upgraded hybrids will be needed to pull one with a tune. Great to see the TTI6 engine making some solid power!

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Hey guys,

Was able to get our new 2015 M3 over to the dyno today for a little test and tune action. It has around 100 miles on the clock... :lol Fuel is 91 octane + a can of octane booster to bring octane up to around 93 octane.

To start I did a few baseline runs in 4th and 5th gear. The best of which was 427rw in 5th gear. Boost was around 19.5psi peak, timing around 9 degrees up top, and I was fairly disappointed with the output. I'm not sure what might be holding back power but we'll have to dive in to that as we get further in to the R&D process.

Not satisfied I decided to whip up a Stage1 alpha tune and after some work had boost up to 24psi and power up to a more respectable ~480rw. :drinking:

Work continues!

JStang · 06-16-2014, 03:44 PM

Wow 427 baseline. Way underrated from the factory, depending on how realistic the dyno is. Looks like the days of a FBO 335i w/ stock turbo's beating M3's are no longer an option.

brewnami · 06-16-2014, 03:52 PM

I can't wait until I can get one of these a few years old!

Myrder · 06-16-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JStang

Wow 427 baseline. Way underrated from the factory, depending on how realistic the dyno is. Looks like the days of a FBO 335i w/ stock turbo's beating M3's are no longer an option.

right... its the same dyno that BMS uses to do all their validation and testing....so it means the new M3/M4 does FBO numbers out of the box...

chepy24 · 06-16-2014, 03:55 PM

beastly!!

BoostedE90 · 06-16-2014, 04:16 PM

Wow! Looks like those engines are going to be putting out some serious numbers once they are tuned properly.
Is the AFR correct? Gets pretty rich at the end

Tiago@VRSF · 06-16-2014, 04:59 PM

Can't wait to get our MW M4 in so we can fab up some DP's and play with the heat exchangers

CT335xi · 06-16-2014, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JStang

Wow 427 baseline. Way underrated from the factory, depending on how realistic the dyno is. Looks like the days of a FBO 335i w/ stock turbo's beating M3's are no longer an option.

It's not the first car they have underrated as our 335's as we know are over 300 hp at the flywheel stock and the new M5's are totally underrated also. Those new m3's/m4's are going to be awesome.

2Times · 06-16-2014, 06:10 PM

I wonder how good/bad they'd be in the winter lol

Myrder · 06-16-2014, 06:44 PM

I'm still impressed how it holds power all the way to redline... stock there is no drop off.

ihc95 · 06-16-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Myrder

I'm still impressed how it holds power all the way to redline... stock there is no drop off.

And that is why S55>N54

ihc95 · 06-16-2014, 06:50 PM

With catless DPs and exhaust this thing is going to be an absolute animal. Not sure if the intercooler can be upgraded since its water-air.

2Times · 06-16-2014, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Myrder

I'm still impressed how it holds power all the way to redline... stock there is no drop off.

TQ drops off... I wouldn't be surprised if it were faster in 60-130 times shifting ~6500 RPMs

Tiago@VRSF · 06-16-2014, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ihc95

With catless DPs and exhaust this thing is going to be an absolute animal. Not sure if the intercooler can be upgraded since its water-air.

Both water capacity/radiator and water to air intercooler can be upgraded

uberbeast21 · 06-16-2014, 07:12 PM

thats insane 427rw baseline is for real that is something else

techwhiz · 06-16-2014, 09:45 PM

Is the ECU hardened like the n55 ECU?
Just curious.

Tiago@VRSF · 06-16-2014, 09:55 PM

This was done on a piggy back.

Miller335 · 06-16-2014, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Times

TQ drops off... I wouldn't be surprised if it were faster in 60-130 times shifting ~6500 RPMs

TQ always drops off at 5252, I think he was saying the turbos can breath and put out good hp up top.

Myrder · 06-16-2014, 11:05 PM

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TQ always drops off at 5252, I think he was saying the turbos can breath and put out good hp up top.

+1, stock I could see shifting at redline or 7000rpm for best times.

dx1541 · 06-17-2014, 12:19 AM

Be interesting what happens when tuning on E85, easily 520's I'd imagine, similar to RB 's on our cars...

silver07335i · 06-17-2014, 04:35 AM

Good numbers on 91-93 octane fuel.

dx1541 · 06-17-2014, 04:57 AM

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I can't wait until I can get one of these a few years old!

Damn I don't even know if I can wait that long.. lol!!!

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