[E60525d]

Originally Posted by phil200tdi

I'd take £11k for my lci 58 plate 335i m sport Manual (non Nav). Black with red leather.

Am i missing something? £11k seems way too cheap especially with the mods you have.

[225_AB]

Originally Posted by Sparky68

Its a forum , people have differing opinions and discuss them freely, hence the name.

nice judgemental attitude there mate.

Nothing wrong with different opinions and debating them. I was referring to your statement "If you cant find your way around the country without satnav, you should not be allowed behind the wheel of a car." That's what I find intolerant.

Different people will want different things from a car hence different models, variations and options. I stand by my opinion that most (not all) people if they have the money would prefer sat Nav (or more accurately I drive) and leather.

[philmots]

^^
Hmm it's hardly to do with money is it..

Most people speccing up a brand new one of these (specially the higher end models) would be able to easily afford the extra for idrive..

I don't belive on a 5-6 yr old car it make them worth any more either (I don't care what 'book' says) they're worth what people will pay...

For most people buying an older car the idrive will probably just be a nice to have.. But for me at least it was something to actively avoid. Even though cheaper cars had it!

[Matrez]

Originally Posted by E60525d

Am i missing something? £11k seems way too cheap especially with the mods you have.

I think his car has some huge mileage (above 100k)

Even though the sat nav looks really bad in terms of dashboard integration and might be confusing and drive you mad I would like to have it, but would never look for a car having one ! If I get the car I like and it comes with it, then cool... I would never waste my time looking for a car that comes with the bloody sat nav and would never pay extra money for it
The same with the leather interior, xenons etc...

If I find well maintained, low mileage, good price, decent age and manual 335i with no extras (nav, leather, xenons etc etc.) I would buy it straight away 335i is a 335i - master piece in itself

Chasing something hard to get is pointless...

[phil200tdi]

It's got 98k
Not huge mileage -it's still a BMW after all!

£11k without mods is where I'd be tempted to sell. I have 3 cars at the minute so makes sense to consider selling in the next few months.

[vexith]

What's with all the negativity towards the idrive? I'm still new here, buying my own 320d very soon. Worth looking for one with idrive? I thought it was just a nifty sat nav tool?

[texasjohn]

Originally Posted by vexith

What's with all the negativity towards the idrive? I'm still new here, buying my own 320d very soon. Worth looking for one with idrive? I thought it was just a nifty sat nav tool?

It would be a lot more positive if the pricing effect wasn't so great but was something like £2000 new for a colour screen, a hump on the dash and a nowhere-near-as-good-as tomtom nav. The market dictates that used cars with it are worth a lot more than cars without.

Personally, I can take or leave it. USB is far more important to me personally than I drive.

A 335i SE with cloth and no nav was for sale last year, absolutely A1 condition and 34k miles (I went to view it).

It was an 07, manual, with electric (unheated) sport seats, xenons, burr walnut trim, 18" wheels and Pro Loudspeaker.

Price was 9995 after being on sale for some months at 12k with no movement. I wasn't quick enough and missed that car but the very odd spec dictated the price. Not many want a 335i without leather, most don't care about speaker systems and almost everyone hates wood!

Personally I thought it was a great looking car in Montego Blue and know that swapping wood out for alu is an easy job...

To be honest I am still a bit gutted that I missed that particular car as I ended up spending a lot more on an LCI

[Dave_3]

Originally Posted by vexith

What's with all the negativity towards the idrive? I'm still new here, buying my own 320d very soon. Worth looking for one with idrive? I thought it was just a nifty sat nav tool?

Usually, this comes from those who don't have it .... read into that what you will.

Nothing wrong with it at all. Quick straw poll will show that from those that actually own it, the vast majority are glad they do. The LCI version is a great improvement.

I-drive is more than a Sat Nav (See the other comparison threads already mentioned).

I have used my screen display EVERY day, and the inbuilt Sat Nav (with Speed Cams incorporated) is great for driving about Europe - not all of us travel round the corner to the shops every day. Police also not interested in the slightest about camera detectors which carry a fine in some countries.

Of course if you don't like the aesthetics of a 2nd bump on your dash and want that smooth look ... sucker onto your windscren an aftermarket SatNav unit.

D.

[Sparky68]

Originally Posted by Dave_3

Usually, this comes from those who don't have it .... read into that what you will.

D.

I actually hunted for a car without it, went to look at loads of 335i Coupes and Saloons with various levels of trim and it was quite difficult to find them without it. Whether that is down to the 335i being higher up the range or not i dont know? Wish i had waited slightly longer for one fitted with alcantara but, that seemed even harder to find without iDrive as well.

In the end i needed to jump into one as i was getting fed up of looking and opted for mine with the intention of retro fitting Alcantara at a later stage.

[Matrez]

Originally Posted by texasjohn

It would be a lot more positive if the pricing effect wasn't so great but was something like £2000 new for a colour screen, a hump on the dash and a nowhere-near-as-good-as tomtom nav. The market dictates that used cars with it are worth a lot more than cars without.

Personally, I can take or leave it. USB is far more important to me personally than I drive.

A 335i SE with cloth and no nav was for sale last year, absolutely A1 condition and 34k miles (I went to view it).

It was an 07, manual, with electric (unheated) sport seats, xenons, burr walnut trim, 18" wheels and Pro Loudspeaker.

Price was 9995 after being on sale for some months at 12k with no movement. I wasn't quick enough and missed that car but the very odd spec dictated the price. Not many want a 335i without leather, most don't care about speaker systems and almost everyone hates wood!

Personally I thought it was a great looking car in Montego Blue and know that swapping wood out for alu is an easy job...

To be honest I am still a bit gutted that I missed that particular car as I ended up spending a lot more on an LCI

I was also very interested in this car last year. The price was fantastic for what you were getting ! I called the bloke to talk about the car as I live far away from him. He seemed to be a nice guy and very genuine. I asked why the mileage is so low... He responded that he uses the car only to his work a few miles away from home. He bought the car brand new from a dealer. It was the only car I was sad I didnt buy. Fantastic bargain

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by Sparky68

May come as some suprise but, there is quite a demand for the non idrive cars. I personally know of 4 guys at work not including me that think it looks like a boil on Katie Price's bum.

For me it looks more natural. Looks Just "Right" It's quite a good command tool.

[gangzoom]

iDrive or not, a 335i/d for £10K is bargain, I doubt I would get £14K for mine if I was to trade it in (08, 42K)...still all the more reason to keep the car, not exactly a bad thing

[Tak1986]

Originally Posted by gangzoom

iDrive or not, a 335i/d for £10K is bargain, I doubt I would get £14K for mine if I was to trade it in (08, 42K)...still all the more reason to keep the car, not exactly a bad thing

cant agree more with this, its personal preference at the end of the day.

I am toying with some ideas to modify mine so i can keep it for longer

[Matrez]

Here is a E90 with iDrive - dont tell me that looks great :


Here is a F10 with its fantastically designed iDrive :


I hope you see the huge difference and see how the iDrive should be done.
iDrive in E90s looks soooo damn bad (Katie Price's arse as someone mentioned here before) :


Its not that I dont have it so I dislike it. I just didnt want one because of the looks Please dont get offended by any mean

[AlanYoro35i]

TO be fair , you are comparing a 6 year old design with the new one's. ofcourse it would look better and function better and you had to choose a interior that look so cr@p.



It doesn't look too bad i think but once you are used to it then this looks abit plain



Age contribute to consumers taste too.

[djgandy]

I have many issues with your pictures before the iDrive. There is far too much brown going on there. Poor choice of dash trim and seats.

This looks signicantly better


As does this

and this


I don't see the issue with the iDrive, but each to their own.

This just looks a bit plain?

[Matrez]

Originally Posted by Yoro35i

TO be fair , you are comparing a 6 year old design with the new one's. ofcourse it would look better and function better and you had to choose a interior that look so cr@p.



It doesn't look too bad i think but once you are used to it then this looks abit plain



Age contribute to consumers taste too.

It doesnt matter about the age and yes its a 6 year old car so pretty new design I would say. I agree with you as the time passes by the electronic side of the cars gets more safisticated, but it is not the same story with the design side looks-wise. For example the new F30 3 Series has a horrible looking iDrive and almost all of the people on the forum have agreed on that. Here is a photo of the very car :


In this case I prefer the E90's iDrive