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      10-21-2009, 09:46 PM   #23
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Since my question didn't get answered in the other thread, I am going to ask it again. Is there anyway we can have the meth system arm on start up? I don't want to play around with arming/disarming the system every time I get in and out of the car.
Sorry I didn't see your question. Yes, you can hook up the meth electronics to switched power so it turns on when your ignition turns on.

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Sorry I didn't see your question. Yes, you can hook up the meth electronics to switched power so it turns on when your ignition turns on.

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Not a problem. When are you planning on releasing the new firmware and maps specific for the methanol? I know in the current firmware that map 2 is a race gas/meth map, but I am talking about the ones where it automatically switches over to the meth map after the procede sees an adequate amount of flow from the kit.
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With guys at high altitude won't the meth be flowing sooner, due to the boost reference being atmospheric and not absolute? How does that work?
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Just in case you missed this.
Seriously, give him 15 mins to answer
Poor guy never get's any time off, I don't know how he answers all the questions in all the different threads as it is, some kind of super poster
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      10-21-2009, 10:48 PM   #27
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That's very cool. A lot of people are running drop-in filters cuz of heat soak worries. My own DCI has been sitting in a box for months. With Meth, DCIs are back in

Any data on the IAT drops from a hot engine bay (aka heat soak condition) vs cool/warm engine bay? It'd be a cool comparison to gauge the efficiency of the cooling.

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About 380whp with dual intakes. I don't like running too much boost with the factory airbox since it's restrictive. You can do it but it really overworks the turbos more than necessary. And with meth for charge cooling, the advanages of the cold airbox design is even more miniscule.

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      10-21-2009, 11:23 PM   #28
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Seriously, give him 15 mins to answer
Poor guy never get's any time off, I don't know how he answers all the questions in all the different threads as it is, some kind of super poster
Most times posts at the end of the page get missed. No harm in putting towards the top of the next page.
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      10-22-2009, 12:40 AM   #29
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Nah.. it's installs basically the same way in 135s. The only thing extra you need to do is amount the pump and the bottle in the truck yourself. Only the 335 sedans and coupes get our nifty drop-in shelf

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Great news! I'd still like to try to figure out how to put the mine in the 135 compartment with our battery. I think I can do it if I convert to a Braille.
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Shiv,

With guys at high altitude won't the meth be flowing sooner, due to the boost reference being atmospheric and not absolute? How does that work?
The controller is absolute pressure referenced so the meth will start flowing at a higher boost pressure for you high altitude folks.
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Is there any way to incorporate the key fob features into one of the several key fobs I already have? lol? Pretty soon I'll have 4 on my key chain. Is the fob really necessary? Feels gimmicky to me. Is there just a plain old hard wired button??
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It's progressive with boost only, not RPM. Starts pumping around 7psi, reaches max flow at 15psi.

And here's another pic of it installed (with rear trunk floor removed):
Shouldn't the meth flow be proportional to air flow? To obtain a constant air/meth ratio in the cylinders?
There is less air flowing at 3Krpm at 15PSI than at 6K at 15PSI

Air flow is proportional to boost and rpm. Procede has both infos (rpm and boost) to calculate the speed of the pump => meth flow


I have another out of topic question: is it better to use 50/50 meth+water or a mix of ethanol+water?
My actual goal would be to use pure E85 fuel (ethanol + 15%gasoline) for this injection. (I know ethanol has less octane rate than methanol).
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Shouldn't the meth flow be proportional to air flow? To obtain a constant air/meth ratio in the cylinders?
There is less air flowing at 3Krpm at 15PSI than at 6K at 15PSI

Air flow is proportional to boost and rpm. Procede has both infos (rpm and boost) to calculate the speed of the pump => meth flow


I have another out of topic question: is it better to use 50/50 meth+water or a mix of ethanol+water?
My actual goal would be to use pure E85 fuel (ethanol + 15%gasoline) for this injection. (I know ethanol has less octane rate than methanol).
The water component does most of the cooling and octane "boosting". It really is and should be called water injection. The alcohol richens the fuel mix some, cools some, keeps the mix from freezing and boosts octane some, but the water does the work.
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I have another out of topic question: is it better to use 50/50 meth+water or a mix of ethanol+water?
My actual goal would be to use pure E85 fuel (ethanol + 15%gasoline) for this injection. (I know ethanol has less octane rate than methanol).
personaly I have always used the cheap blue window wash fluid from advance auto or walmart. Always worked like a charm and it is cheap.
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personaly I have always used the cheap blue window wash fluid from advance auto or walmart. Always worked like a charm and it is cheap.
Huh?
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It can contain up to 35% methanol, the rest is just water and coloring agents. However, down in the south we can only get about 7% methanol. The reason for the higher concentrations up north is the lower freezing point of methanol as well as the ability to cut through ice/frost better. That said, you can purchase yellow HEET for a dollar a bottle. It is 100% methanol so adding a few bottles, I beleive they are 16 oz, to the washer fluid can bring ratio up considerably.

And FYI, all is readily available at Walmart for little $$.
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It can contain up to 35% methanol, the rest is just water and coloring agents. However, down in the south we can only get about 7% methanol. The reason for the higher concentrations up north is the lower freezing point of methanol as well as the ability to cut through ice/frost better. That said, you can purchase yellow HEET for a dollar a bottle. It is 100% methanol so adding a few bottles, I beleive they are 16 oz, to the washer fluid can bring ratio up considerably.

And FYI, all is readily available at Walmart for little $$.
In europe, at least here in luxembourg, no way to find screen wash based on methanol
They all state: contains less than 5% methanol etc...

Any knows where to find methanol based screen wash in europe?

Is it possible to mix E85 with water? will the 15% of gasoline collapse?
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So if the tank or the pump leaks or pops a line you get methanol mixed with a live car battery. But other than that the kit looks great.
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So if the tank or the pump leaks or pops a line you get methanol mixed with a live car battery. But other than that the kit looks great.
there is alot of "what if's" that you can speculate, but fact is as long as you install it properly, the chance of that happening are low, its the same risk as your fuel line that runs along the hot engine block to the hpfp, "what if" that plastic line devolops a leak?
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It can contain up to 35% methanol, the rest is just water and coloring agents. However, down in the south we can only get about 7% methanol. The reason for the higher concentrations up north is the lower freezing point of methanol as well as the ability to cut through ice/frost better. That said, you can purchase yellow HEET for a dollar a bottle. It is 100% methanol so adding a few bottles, I beleive they are 16 oz, to the washer fluid can bring ratio up considerably.

And FYI, all is readily available at Walmart for little $$.
Is that pretty valid? What about this stuff shown on this post I made awhile back? BTW, this washerfluid is super cheap. .99 a gallon at autozone.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=79
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Is that pretty valid? What about this stuff shown on this post I made awhile back? BTW, this washerfluid is super cheap. .99 a gallon at autozone.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=79
if you want to verify, you can go to wherever you bought it from and request an msds sheet for a breakdown, or have the manufactorer email or fax it to you, it will have the methanol content on it
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this is a usfull exell spread sheet i have used in the past that is good for calculating mixes and even has info on many common brands of windshield washer fluid with their correct values of meth. I hope this will be of some help to all of you.

http://www.eteamz.com/bcblues/handou...ubsite=4667041

the file you want is the meth tool kit.
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