[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by momstmg78

It's funny how once I switched to cobb the high afr's and cel's have not come back, so I would say it is tune related not car issues.

You lost 40+whp. If there was something wrong with an injector, pump, etc,. it would be far more likely to show itself at a higher power level. This is why people can run around with the stock tune for ages, install a tune, and bring to light hardware issues that they never knew they had. I'm not saying that is definitely the case here. But to ignore the fact that you aren't comparing apples to apples would be a mistake.

Shiv

[EastBayE90]

Originally Posted by momstmg78

It's funny how once I switched to cobb the high afr's and cel's have not come back, so I would say it is tune related not car issues.

Again, what codes did you get while running the procede?

[kjrulz]

Originally Posted by momstmg78

It's funny how once I switched to cobb the high afr's and cel's have not come back, so I would say it is tune related not car issues.

your opinion holds no sway. it's only unfortunate that some naive users might actually believe you without questioning. You have been backing down/sidetracking rather quickly when asked simple questions.

[vasillalov]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

You lost 40+whp. If there was something wrong with an injector, pump, etc,. it would be far more likely to show itself at a higher power level. This is why people can run around with the stock tune for ages, install a tune, and bring to light hardware issues that they never knew they had. I'm not saying that is definitely the case here. But to ignore the fact that you aren't comparing apples to apples would be a mistake.

Shiv

Shiv,

Why is it that almost every time someone has a problem with Procede, you blame the hardware?

EDIT: Do you see GIAC/COBB blaming the N54 hardware for any of their problems?

[kjrulz]

Originally Posted by momstmg78

When I had procede it would auto tune to 14 psi. I put cobb on last night and it is running around 17 psi. I wonder if its ok? No meth here.

Originally Posted by momstmg78

Sustained, it spiked to 19.x when I let off

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506775

[bulldog_yyc]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Shiv,

Why is it that almost every time someone has a problem with Procede, you blame the hardware?

EDIT: Do you see GIAC/COBB blaming the N54 hardware for any of their problems?

I think Shiv's response is a very simple and logical given the lack of information presented. The majority of the time, a tune will bring hidden problems to surface given higher boost and demand on the engine. Its also logical to check the codes and rule out any hardware issues before blaming a tune for check engine lights, which can be triggered (and do get triggered) in stock configurations all the time!

[vasillalov]

Funny, I've not gotten a SINGLE code with GIAC nor with COBB...

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by turkish335

I think Shiv's response is a very simple and logical given the lack of information presented. The majority of the time, a tune will bring hidden problems to surface given higher boost and demand on the engine. Its also logical to check the codes and rule out any hardware issues before blaming a tune for check engine lights, which can be triggered (and do get triggered) in stock configurations all the time!

Yes, i try to be reasonable. But I will admit that earlier versions of Procede v5 firmware could induce high rpm misfire i some cars (mostly 6ATs). This was solved in Feb-March. Not sure if this is the problem he was having.

[bulldog_yyc]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Funny, I've not gotten a SINGLE code with GIAC nor with COBB...

what about the ECU mismatch code? LOL, that one doesnt trigger a CEL though.

[bulldog_yyc]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Yes, i try to be reasonable. But I will admit that earlier versions of Procede v5 firmware could induce high rpm misfire i some cars (mostly 6ATs). This was solved in Feb-March. Not sure if this is the problem he was having.

Its a refinement process (as you know)- first version of JB3 I was running (late stage beta version, forget exact one) would overboost in cold temperatures and trigger 30FF each time I went WOT. I think its constructive to provide feedback to the tuner (in terms of logs, codes, etc) to help fix any issues though.

[David1]

Just wait until almost every N54/55 gets carboned up valves and folks start blaming the tunes for issues when it's the car not the tune.

[EastBayE90]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Funny, I've not gotten a SINGLE code with GIAC nor with COBB...

I also have not recieved a SINGLE code with the procede. Am I as cool as you now too?

[vasillalov]

Originally Posted by (-(ellblazer420

I also have not recieved a SINGLE code with the procede. Am I as cool as you now too?

Only if you choose to be... LOL

[EastBayE90]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Only if you choose to be... LOL

lol some day

[momstmg78]

Shiv that misfires were part of the problem. I am speaking from my experience and all a couple of people do is try and discredit people on this forum. When I had procede, I called them ( robert or shiv) about different things and they always said that it was something other than the procede. I don't need to get into details, plenty off you guys now the problems and i'm not going to rehash it all. Also after I Dynoed the car and it was having the high afr's shiv said that was normal for this engine. He said that me and the dyno operator wasn't use to the high afr's but that it was normal. You might call it normal but obviously cobb doesn't. Thanks for you guys pushing me to bring some of this out. I wasn't planning all this.

[bulldog_yyc]

Originally Posted by momstmg78

Shiv that misfires were part of the problem. I am speaking from my experience and all a couple of people do is try and discredit people on this forum. When I had procede, I called them ( robert or shiv) about different things and they always said that it was something other than the procede. I don't need to get into details, plenty off you guys now the problems and i'm not going to rehash it all. Also after I Dynoed the car and it was having the high afr's shiv said that was normal for this engine. He said that me and the dyno operator wasn't use to the high afr's but that it was normal. You might call it normal but obviously cobb doesn't. Thanks for you guys pushing me to bring some of this out. I wasn't planning all this.

now that you moved to Toronto, you should come out to a meet and talk about it with some "smart" guys. Better yet, are you sure your issues with Procede and check engine lights weren't related to your aftermarket downpipes?

From the FS thread you decided to weigh in on:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=517771&page=2

Originally Posted by momstmg78

This forum is about facts and so on. I started by giving facts about the price and you took it to another level. So I will add some more facts to the equation: my catted dp's are only a few months old and are already throughing cat insufficient codes. Be aware that just because they are catted does not mean they will not set off your check engine light.

[GmanJeff]

To the OP: From the nature of your question, and if your budget permits, you might consider the BMW factory power kit, which will preserve your warranty while giving you some performance boost (pardon the pun!) over stock. Other solutions may give you a quicker car, but if peace of mind is important to you, there may be no substitute for the factory warranty.

[momstmg78]

Nothing to do with dp's smart guy( turkish). I'm now your neighbor. Cheers

[bulldog_yyc]

Originally Posted by momstmg78

Nothing to do with dp's smart guy( turkish). I'm now your neighbor. Cheers

come out for a beer sometime, dont be a stranger

[momstmg78]

Cheers

[Slops]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Yes, i try to be reasonable. But I will admit that earlier versions of Procede v5 firmware could induce high rpm misfire i some cars (mostly 6ATs). This was solved in Feb-March. Not sure if this is the problem he was having.

must be solved, cuz my 6AT has had no issues whatsoever and i'd redline it out of my driveway if it was long enough

[Bobble]

To the OP I agree if warranty is really your biggest concern then your only true options are BMW power pack or actually no tune at all.
As far as all the other stuff goes the only tune mentioned I would personally stay far awy from is the JB+. Yes it's mild in regards to additional boost but the manner in which it does it IMO is simply not safe. Again IMO. If you like the flash type tune can't go wrong with either Dinan, Cobb or GIAC, if piggybacks are your preference Vishnu and the latest JB version work well. I have my personal preference and it's just my personal preference so you will need to decide whats the most important to you, warranty, ease of install, available power and available options for further tuning. Make an informed choice based on that and not what someone here says is best as we all have our own opinions and some people even think theirs is the right opinion for everyone.