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      05-02-2011, 08:59 PM   #23
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I think you answered this already but will this setup work with my Stett CAI?
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So it's 3 nozzles that you're using correct ? or 1 big nozzle ?
We are using two 1.0mm nozzles. The 3rd hose you see there goes to the meth injector outlet.

And nope, I don't expect this to fit with any 3rd party charge pipe. There's just much room to work with.

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      05-02-2011, 09:16 PM   #25
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Damn impressive, 126HP gain over stock and the car does not even have DPs or a FMIC on it. I bet that it would push 430 whp with DPs. Great looking kit.
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When can n55 order?
Wont be shipping n55 kits until we get caught up on all n54 kit orders. And then some more time for road testing. Most of the our pwm meth testing time has been on the n54. Had to start somewhere!
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      05-02-2011, 09:52 PM   #27
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When can n55 order?
Wont be shipping n55 kits until we get caught up on all n54 kit orders. And then some more time for road testing. Most of the our pwm meth testing time has been on the n54. Had to start somewhere!

I hope for summer we have it available. There is no more mods available
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      05-02-2011, 10:13 PM   #28
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question: what would happen if you were to run the meth kit AS WELL as c16 race gas, as opposed to 100 octane?
is that safe to run, or would 100 octane be the safest with meth?
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      05-03-2011, 03:06 AM   #31
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question: what would happen if you were to run the meth kit AS WELL as c16 race gas, as opposed to 100 octane?
is that safe to run, or would 100 octane be the safest with meth?
+1

IŽm impressed nearly 60hp with the PVM kit, thats almost twice the hp gain we se with a conventinal kit. Is the advantage bigger running meth on a stock car with only Proceed and dci compaired to runnig it on a fully modded car
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      05-03-2011, 12:22 PM   #32
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Wont be shipping n55 kits until we get caught up on all n54 kit orders. And then some more time for road testing. Most of the our pwm meth testing time has been on the n54. Had to start somewhere!
If you need some one to test the meth kit for the n55 just give me a call
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      05-03-2011, 12:47 PM   #33
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Hi Shiv,

This looks great!

I was hoping to be one of your crash test dummies for the meth kit, but got really busy moving to a new house.

Is there any chance/interest in adding an option in the PROcede software to disable meth in 1st and 2nd gears ? Third gear disable wouldn't be all bad either, since even with 275/19 Nittos I don't stay hooked up that well in 3rd.
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IŽm impressed nearly 60hp with the PVM kit, thats almost twice the hp gain we se with a conventinal kit. Is the advantage bigger running meth on a stock car with only Proceed and dci compaired to runnig it on a fully modded car
We are quite sure that add more modes (FMIC and DP) will help power enormously (well, at least 20hp). Probably more if we weren't already running the turbo towards it's max capacity. The bigger advantage of those additional mods is that it will make the turbo work hard since it will remove restriction both upstream and downstream of the turbo.
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question: what would happen if you were to run the meth kit AS WELL as c16 race gas, as opposed to 100 octane?
is that safe to run, or would 100 octane be the safest with meth?
With PWM meth, there isn't a situation were meth flow "lags" behind fuel demand. So the need to run race gas "under" meth for additional safety isn't as necessary. But if you didn't you could pick up a bit more power by running more boost and ignition advance. Probably not a lot of power gains. At least not worth the $8/gallon.
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      05-03-2011, 01:58 PM   #37
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Thanks for your car! We should start on it tomorrow. Hopefully get some good results on an otherwise stock car Shiv is pretty confident your car will make 400whp with just the Procede, PWM kit and DCI. Kind of re-defines the commonly accepted upgrade sequence.
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We are quite sure that add more modes (FMIC and DP) will help power enormously (well, at least 20hp). Probably more if we weren't already running the turbo towards it's max capacity. The bigger advantage of those additional mods is that it will make the turbo work hard since it will remove restriction both upstream and downstream of the turbo.
Thx Calvin I donŽt think you understood my question correct or I didŽnt understand your answer , so IŽll try again running a fully modded car will the pmv kit also yield 60 hp as well?
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question: what would happen if you were to run the meth kit AS WELL as c16 race gas, as opposed to 100 octane?
is that safe to run, or would 100 octane be the safest with meth?
With PWM meth, there isn't a situation were meth flow "lags" behind fuel demand. So the need to run race gas "under" meth for additional safety isn't as necessary. But if you didn't you could pick up a bit more power by running more boost and ignition advance. Probably not a lot of power gains. At least not worth the $8/gallon.
$9.99 for 100 octane at sunoco..and about $15 for c16 lol...thanks for the response though
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Thx Calvin I donŽt think you understood my question correct or I didŽnt understand your answer , so IŽll try again running a fully modded car will the pmv kit also yield 60 hp as well?
If you make 400whp on a fully modded car, adding meth will not bring you up to 460whp on a dyno. Simply because the factory turbo will have already reached its limit. The most it will possibly make may be in the 430-440whp range.

But on the road when your "400whp" no-meth FBO car isn't always making the full 400whp due to heatsoak, prolonged loads through multiple gear runs, etc, adding the meth kit will pick up huge gains. Almost always hitting what you saw on the dyno since it virtually eliminates heatsoak and provides a huge octane bump. Even if it only picks up 30whp on the dyno, the effects on the road in real driving conditions will be profound.
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If you make 400whp on a fully modded car, adding meth will not bring you up to 460whp on a dyno. Simply because the factory turbo will have already reached its limit. The most it will possibly make may be in the 430-440whp range.

But on the road when your "400whp" no-meth FBO car isn't always making the full 400whp due to heatsoak, prolonged loads through multiple gear runs, etc, adding the meth kit will pick up huge gains. Almost always hitting what you saw on the dyno since it virtually eliminates heatsoak and provides a huge octane bump. Even if it only picks up 30whp on the dyno, the effects on the road in real driving conditions will be profound.
all I needed to hear, RB turbos are next on my car of course after your pvm-kit
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How simple to remove

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Great results.

How much time would it take to remove the system and put car back to stock?

Thanks.

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      05-03-2011, 02:26 PM   #43
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wow!! it's amazing! great work!! what's the expected number on dyno for a full modded car with PWM kit and RB turbos?
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      05-03-2011, 02:42 PM   #44
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I'm excited. Please make sure the install is straight forward with actual step by step instructions. I hope the meth map is conservative. If its aggressive and at the threshhold of detonation, I'm not interested and will just settle with an intercooler.
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