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      10-13-2008, 04:33 PM   #133
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its has definately been nice finally to see less and less post about Vishnu having problems...Now the trolls can only chime in and bash only the price of the Procede!!!
PROcede is priced too low.
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PROcede is priced too low.
typo!!! don't have him raise the prices it's fine where it's at right now.
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PROcede is priced too low.
My point exactly! Your a perfect example
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My point exactly! Your a perfect example
I am the perfect example because I think the PROcede is priced too low for the amount of features that you get? You aren't making much sense Steven, thats not surprising though.....
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Y'all cut it out or I'll have to take immediate action!
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I am the perfect example because I think the PROcede is priced too low for the amount of features that you get? You aren't making much sense Steven, thats not surprising though.....
Oh I am sorry...I forgot that your jumping on the bandwagon again with the V3 because of the new features...Sorry that I assumed that....I just hope Shiv realizes this time who he is dealing with..Lately these days I make no sense!
Making no sense is actually winning me money on my football pick!!!!

Back on topic....I can't wait for the new features that 3.1 is offering! Waiting patiently for the update!
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I'm waiting for the front end end of the User software to be finished too. Good news is that it's been done on my Tuner/master version of the software for some time and it's working just peachy. It's pretty darn "idiotproof" for lack of a better term.

During this delay, I've been able to implement another useful feature that will be on the v3.1 software. Just finished testing it today:

Valet Speed Limit
Now you will be able to set the valet map's speed limit. In other words, if you want to limit max speed to parking lot speeds, you can do that. If you want to limit it to 80mph so your wife can't take the car and go street racing, you can do that too. When the user definable speed limit is reached, the throttle simply closes and the car stops accelerating. Just as if you were hitting the factory speed limit at 130 or 155mph.

This is something I've always been to implement because the valet/stock map, with 300bhp and 130-155mph max speeds) is still plenty ballsy enough to get someone into trouble.

With this feature, all you need to do is set the valet map's max speed with your laptop. Then the next time you give your car to a valet, your son, your friend, etc, you just take the remote keyfob with you and they will not be able to activate the normal maps. In fact, the only way they can get around it is by physically removing the PROcede

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Wow that is a awesome feature that I think its one of the better ideas out there Shiv...You have out done yourself...I love this new feature when it comes out!! I plan on keeping this car for a while and when my kids want to drive the car, I can rest assure that I can control how fast the car can go!! That is one awesome function!!
I give you alot of credit! Thanks...can't wait
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fuel economy in valet mode

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I've tweaked the valet map to provide highest possible fuel economy. The AFR targets during cruise have been adjusted to be slightly leaner than stock. Can't go too lean or else misfire codes can get induced. The factory ECU is mapped for close to maximum fuel economy. Hard to beat it.

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the new feature for valet mode sets a limit on mph. i know you said earlier that the valet mode was kinda made for getting maximum fuel economy. If we implement this feature at a speed of 30mph we can't use the valet mode for getting maximum fuel economy when we're cruising. I know v3 supports map 1 and map 2, is there a way to set one of those maps to high boost and the other map with maximum fuel economy? Thanks Shiv!
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In other words, if you want to limit max speed to parking lot speeds, you can do that.
How about go cart speed? Wait a minute, that might not be slow - I've seen a picture somewhere of Shiv hauling ass in a go cart.
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How about go cart speed? Wait a minute, that might not be slow - I've seen a picture somewhere of Shiv hauling ass in a go cart.
Yeah thats when he called out people and told them if they beat him in the go cart, they would get a free V3 installed!!! I wonder what happened with that?
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Yeah thats when he called out people and told them if they beat him in the go cart, they would get a free V3 installed!!! I wonder what happened with that?
They didn't beat me

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excellent idea shiv! Can't wait! My apologies again for my drunken rant fri night
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Very cool idea shiv.
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With all those user adjustables, aren't you taking a big risk by entrusting your customers to be able to use proper values? I can imagine the customer service nightmare if one person puts a 99 in a box instead of a 9, and all hell breaks loose, or did you guys build a fail-safe option where you can't go above a pre-selected max/min?...

What if someone enters max values for all the adjustables, and then a month later his car blows up... As great as having the option to set your own values, I would simply just trust the tuners values and be happy with it.
With each user adjustable input, we have defined a Max/Min limit to make it virtually impossible to induce a non-safe/unstable condition. The only parametes that take some degree of customer restraint are the user torque settings but that has always been the case.

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hmmm.. anxiously awaiting for the release. any word on setting the torque nanny(ON for the remote) and non torque nanny (OFF for the remote)??
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cool new feature. Only time I could see me using it would literally be for valet purposes.



shiv- I dont know if I've seen this or not, but does the logging software show timiing being pulled? ex.= i'm runnig race gas and was to up the TQ settings, but i'm not sure where I am no longer adding HP/TQ by upping the settings. It would be great to be able to see where we are pushing too far and back it off from there.
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i'm runnig race gas and was to up the TQ settings, but i'm not sure where I am no longer adding HP/TQ by upping the settings. It would be great to be able to see where we are pushing too far and back it off from there.
+1 great question and I was wondering this too.

We might as well discuss this while we're waiting for V3.1

So what is / how do we determine the point of diminishing returns on UT settings without having access to a dyno? Is it truly when the ECU starts to pull timing, or does that only occur when knock is detected? If we're running race gas, when does that happen? I am sure that Shiv has an answer to this since I doubt many people have his experience screwing with UT settings on the PROcede LOL
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cool new feature. Only time I could see me using it would literally be for valet purposes.



shiv- I dont know if I've seen this or not, but does the logging software show timiing being pulled? ex.= i'm runnig race gas and was to up the TQ settings, but i'm not sure where I am no longer adding HP/TQ by upping the settings. It would be great to be able to see where we are pushing too far and back it off from there.
The logging software only reads the ignition advance correction the PROcede induces, not ignition retard induced by the factory ECU's knock control system. So, as it stands right now, you will need a 3rd party device that can display ignition advance (such as a obd-2 logger/display). Currently testing something right now that is showing good promise.

Short of that, you can establish optimal User Torque by careful datalog analysis (runs conducted on flat road on windless day). Just need to look at time elapsed between speed points.

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I'm waiting for the front end end of the User software to be finished too. Good news is that it's been done on my Tuner/master version of the software for some time and it's working just peachy. It's pretty darn "idiotproof" for lack of a better term.

During this delay, I've been able to implement another useful feature that will be on the v3.1 software. Just finished testing it today:

Valet Speed Limit
Now you will be able to set the valet map's speed limit. In other words, if you want to limit max speed to parking lot speeds, you can do that. If you want to limit it to 80mph so you're wife can't take the car and go street racing, you can do that too. When the user definable speed limit is reached, the throttle simply closes and the car stops accelerating. Just as if you were hitting the factory speed limit at 130 or 155mph.

This is something I've always been to implement because the valet/stock map, with 300bhp and 130-155mph max speeds) is still plenty ballsy enough to get someone into trouble.

With this feature, all you need to do is set the valet map's max speed with your laptop. Then the next time you give your car to a valet, your son, your friend, etc, you just take the remote keyfob with you and they will not be able to activate the normal maps. In fact, the only way they can get around it is by physically removing the PROcede

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Wow very cool! I can't wait for this to be released Procede always has very nifty features.
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I'm waiting for the front end end of the User software to be finished too. Good news is that it's been done on my Tuner/master version of the software for some time and it's working just peachy. It's pretty darn "idiotproof" for lack of a better term.

During this delay, I've been able to implement another useful feature that will be on the v3.1 software. Just finished testing it today:

Valet Speed Limit
Now you will be able to set the valet map's speed limit. In other words, if you want to limit max speed to parking lot speeds, you can do that. If you want to limit it to 80mph so your wife can't take the car and go street racing, you can do that too. When the user definable speed limit is reached, the throttle simply closes and the car stops accelerating. Just as if you were hitting the factory speed limit at 130 or 155mph.

This is something I've always been to implement because the valet/stock map, with 300bhp and 130-155mph max speeds) is still plenty ballsy enough to get someone into trouble.

With this feature, all you need to do is set the valet map's max speed with your laptop. Then the next time you give your car to a valet, your son, your friend, etc, you just take the remote keyfob with you and they will not be able to activate the normal maps. In fact, the only way they can get around it is by physically removing the PROcede Shiv

I have a question about this; Will they be able to take the procede of Valet mode using the homelink buttons? If so, How could we prevent this? Thanks.
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The logging software only reads the ignition advance correction the PROcede induces, not ignition retard induced by the factory ECU's knock control system. So, as it stands right now, you will need a 3rd party device that can display ignition advance (such as a obd-2 logger/display). Currently testing something right now that is showing good promise.

Short of that, you can establish optimal User Torque by careful datalog analysis (runs conducted on flat road on windless day). Just need to look at time elapsed between speed points.

Shiv

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ok thanks!

time to pickup a scanner
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