Pagid Discs and Pads

ade146 · 08-26-2015, 05:29 PM

Pagid have never been OEM. They are mostly ATE which is the same price as Pagid. Textar have occasionally supplied pads as well.
Pads are not pads no matter what ece R90 says. There is difference between even the very best and I pay £150 an axle for my escort and not far off for the BM.
Ive just put brembo red in my R1 and they really arent up to the job.
The top brands will often publish the friction co efficient temperature graph if you are interested.

Aragorn30d · 08-27-2015, 07:15 AM

If your paying £150 an axle for pads, then you probably arent buying them from BMW, and thus cant really compare can you?

The BMW factory road pads will be pretty similar in performance to ATE/Textar/Pagid etc, which was the point i was making. There no point spending BMW prices when you can get the same stuff for much less.

£150 aftermarket fast road pads will very likely perform better, but i've not argued that they wouldnt. My arguement was that there was no point paying BMW prices for standard road pads, when OEM parts from ATE/Textar or whoever will be just as good, for less than half the price.

ade146 · 08-31-2015, 06:02 PM

OK sounds fair but I wouldnt want people to think that pads are all the same. I did a British Championship round in mid wales yesterday on Mintex F4R and I really liked them. They are full race pads so you could think they wouldnt work that well from cold but in rallying they can be stone cold by the time you start a stage and the real limits are the cold slicks not the pads.
I dont drive fast on the roads but I find it easy enough to melt brakes in a 2 ton barge if the pad compound is mashed potato. Depends where you live I guess.

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ade146 Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 242 Posts Drives: E90 330d sport auto Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: S.Wales or Cheshire iTrader: (0)	Pagid have never been OEM. They are mostly ATE which is the same price as Pagid. Textar have occasionally supplied pads as well. Pads are not pads no matter what ece R90 says. There is difference between even the very best and I pay £150 an axle for my escort and not far off for the BM. Ive just put brembo red in my R1 and they really arent up to the job. The top brands will often publish the friction co efficient temperature graph if you are interested.
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08-27-2015, 07:15 AM	#24
Aragorn30d Lieutenant Colonel 169 Rep 1,596 Posts Drives: E90 330d Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Fife iTrader: (0)	If your paying £150 an axle for pads, then you probably arent buying them from BMW, and thus cant really compare can you? The BMW factory road pads will be pretty similar in performance to ATE/Textar/Pagid etc, which was the point i was making. There no point spending BMW prices when you can get the same stuff for much less. £150 aftermarket fast road pads will very likely perform better, but i've not argued that they wouldnt. My arguement was that there was no point paying BMW prices for standard road pads, when OEM parts from ATE/Textar or whoever will be just as good, for less than half the price.
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08-31-2015, 06:02 PM	#25
ade146 Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 242 Posts Drives: E90 330d sport auto Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: S.Wales or Cheshire iTrader: (0)	OK sounds fair but I wouldnt want people to think that pads are all the same. I did a British Championship round in mid wales yesterday on Mintex F4R and I really liked them. They are full race pads so you could think they wouldnt work that well from cold but in rallying they can be stone cold by the time you start a stage and the real limits are the cold slicks not the pads. I dont drive fast on the roads but I find it easy enough to melt brakes in a 2 ton barge if the pad compound is mashed potato. Depends where you live I guess.
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