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It's marketing genius. The majority of people don't know the difference. They think it's a "M" car. It's close to one but no cigar.
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My OG M2 doesn't have M mirrors but the M240 does??? It's odd. Also, why would they give this car the xdrive but according to early signs from other forum members, the M2 isn't going to have the xdrive option. I hope they're wrong but that makes no sense to me. How much longer will they hold back the M2 to keep it from being the best M car available? It's pretty much identical to the M3/4 at this point. That's one feature I'm looking forward to most (xdrive).
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Of course you do otherwise who would create these videos to entertain us!
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According to BMW they are an "M" car now, so I think thats where most of the confusion is coming from. They are completely separated from the standard models, and are listed under BMW M in the Build Your Own category. As BMW updates, I think people will need to update their terminology as well.
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I know the new M2 will be built in Mexico (as I've heard) so there are exceptions in terms of WHO builds the car but not who creates the car on an engineering/testing level
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It's just toxic when I've seen members getting bullied by others saying "let me guess, you call your car an Mxxxi" when thats exactly what they are called by BMW. No reason to discourage people from enjoying their cars |
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It all comes down to Covid, if the chip shortage was not a thing James' LCI would be below $40K and then we would all admit that for the money the F87 is unbeatable.
Now that 5-year old cars are sold for their MSRP we came up with the "lightness and purity" arguments to justify the purchase. Once the G87 is out we are all gonna praise the new beast (which is gonna a be heavy too but we wont care) |
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I'm all for people enjoying what they bought with their hard earned money, but it's not an M car. An M car is the M letter with a single number after it. M2/3/4/5/8 That's not to take away from the greatness that the M240i xdrive has by any means. It's just to say there's levels to it. The M340i xdrive being as cool as it is, is still levels below a M3 xdrive. I would still drive a M340i any day out the week but if money wasn't an option I'd get the bigger brother. There's a reason it's more expensive. You get more engine, power, suspension, interior, exterior, brakes, etc.
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M is about a bulky and aggressive exterior, suspension & brakes. I believe they made the 1M and M2 with the N54/55 engines for sales purposes. They must've thought if they had the S65 & S55, the market for the 3/4 would crash but the comp M2 showed us otherwise. People still love the bigger cars. In the case of the M2 comp you really have no argument at all so it's a 50/50 shot at best Still, I'd take the N55 as a track engine over the all gen engines of M3 pre 2015 so I guess neither of those slow cars are M cars either
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M2 is on Michelin pilot super sport star spec tires which glass up at 45F. This video was recorded at -1C/30F. I cannot see what tires are on the M240i, but knowing BMW they put season specific tires on their press cars. I would bet they are running all seasons or winter tires. If the M240 is on summer’s as well it is just another reason to dismiss the results. Needless to say it is just physics from there; the M2 power to weight ratio is better and the star-spec super sports hook up hard in anything down to about 50F in my experience. So I would honestly bet money that if they ran these exact cars again at anything above 50F the M2 would still surprise a lot of people. I’ve also experienced manual M2’s launching harder than DCT variants because an experienced driver can easily slip the clutch to create a smoother launch than launch-control produces. I love throttle house regardless, these guys are a hoot and make some good , light-hearted videos. Buy whatever you want and enjoy, but physics are physics. |
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M2 is a better enthusiast car and m240i Xdrive is a better daily for most people.
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Yep. I have a neighbor who's constantly telling everyone about his M7. It's not even a M760, it just has M-Performance pieces on it. I don't have the heart to correct him he's not a car guy after all. To which your point, would be spot on.
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I guess the reason there is so much less space at the back is because the entire green house is smaller. For once, at BMW, form doesn't follow function, it seems.
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