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I second you. Having the m340xi b4 getting the m2c the car is different. Not that m240i is the same as m340i but the little weight diff (100kg) and same engine/transmission wouldnt make it a sporty car! I was really disappointed w m340i expecting it to be sporty. It was really great in roads but to play around corners definetely not. The same would be w m240xi IMO.
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I guess I'm the person they build the 240 for? I went to the dealer to buy a new '21 M2C, 6MT, and I as I mentioned earlier, just couldn't do it in the end. Awesome car, don't get me wrong. The issue for me was I don't track my cars, and simply enjoy a few pulls here and there and a brisk ride down a local windy road. I could tell right away the M2 had stiffer suspension and better brakes, but my FBO M235xi at the time was just as much or more engaging for where and how I drive. With all that said, I'm not ordering a 240 right away, so I may just wait to see what they do with the new M2 before making a final decision. My hunch tells me it may be a very special car.
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OG M2 is the most underwhelming M ever. I test drove it many, many times trying to convince myself to buy it. Never did. M235i power, heck M235i everything except for much better handling (in exchange for a seriously unrefined ride) and some external parts I can't see from behind the wheel. Putting the S55 in it and adding a bunch of real M parts was what it needed (M2C, bought 3 of those). Barely worth $40k IMO.
As a fun daily driver, the G42 M240i is much better than the OG M2. That we're even comparing the two is a testament to how good the G42 is. The G87 will destroy the F87. |
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Hence, the relational difference between the M2 OG and the M2C which I think will be repeated with the M240i and the G87 M2C
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12-07-2021, 11:37 AM | #138 |
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Let’s hope BMW doesn’t take the OG M2 approach and settle for a pumped up B58 (unless it’s seriously pumped up; over 450hp).
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Forged crankshaft and connecting rods New oil pan and drain pump Cast iron cylinder liners New exhaust manifold Upgraded intake It's most definitely NOT an M235 engine. The only thing I liked about my former 335 was the N55. When I learned the OG had an N55 engineered by M,m and read about the differences it was a no brainer for me…and it's proven to be way more fun than the 335s. So it makes no sense to me to say it's basically an M235 engine. But to each their own…we all like what we like for whatever reason. As long as we each have something we enjoy that is all that matters.
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On the other hand, I rented an M2 Competition on Turo while I was in LA and had so much fun blitzing the canyons that I bought one a few weeks later. That car convinced me right away. Far from an “excellent-handling M240i”, the Comp felt like a slightly detuned, short-wheelbase M4 with a lot of F82 M4 chassis bad behavior tuned out. Now we’re talking. Yes, the N55-powered OG sounds better than the S55 M2C. Both cars are pretty ordinary in the wider context of good-sounding sports cars. Certainly not a strong enough incentive to turn down real M seats, M mirrors, LCI styling, and the far more interesting S55 powerband. I’ve owned nearly 2 dozen E46 M3s. No idea how that car makes any modern M seem “underwhelming”. The model immediately after it was already meaningfully better, not to mention cars like the M2 Comp and F82 and G82 that all completely and utterly blow it away. I drove a couple E46 Ms again in recent weeks looking for something to drive while I await my M4 Comp xDrive and M240i xDrive orders. E46 M casting a shadow on any of the newer cars? That’s pure, unadulterated nostalgia talking. |
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If they had made the G42 M240i like the enthusiasts who bought the F22 version wanted (6MT, RWD) I am definitely sure this would have been a much closer comparison. |
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I mean, it's damn near next to impossible to not have fun in the OG. But whatever, to each their own.
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2019. All M2Cs have the S55.
Edit: though production began mid-2018.
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It never did. The S55 engine version is called "Competition".
It's true they didn't overlap in production or offering, so the competition replaced the M2. So that's the easiest way to determine which engine they have. The M2 has the N55, the M2 Competition and CS have the S55. |
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