[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Slidewayz

Hey Mike, congrats on the great work you've done. Since I'm 3,000+ miles away from you, I guess I can't ask you to do this for me.

How long do you think it would take to swap out the turbos if you've got a good shop with the right tools and a lift?

Do you have to unbolt the engine mounts and jack up the engine to get to the turbos ?

Someone who has done this job many times can do it in 1 day.. The 1st time we did it took us 2 days taking our time.. We had to drop the subframe the way we removed them.. We did not unbolt the mounts as far as i recall..

Mike

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Really? I had no idea.

Why would a billet upgrade be cheaper for a 997tt than an r35?

-scheherazade

Because its a different process for the GTR.. For the GTR they stuff true Garrett Internals into the stock housings which cost more $$.. they dont use the OEM CHRA..

Mike

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by jjurroz

have you considered an N55 application?

YEs but i need a stock turbo to modify and do testing..

Mike

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Our setup HAS to spool faster.. its billet wheel, Smaller inducer, Small shaft and lightweight rotating assembly all in stock housings.. The RB must produce more power but which will have the fatter powerband i honestly dont know at this point..

Let me give you a quick example from EXPERIENCE with stock frame turbos.. a T3 GT35r turbo evo making 500whp will gets its ass whipped by a 450whp Stock appearing turbo evo.. ALL DAY EVERY DAY.. This is our same goal with the 335.. You cant turn 9k RPM with the 335.. So the goal is to have the FATTEST powerband you can from 4-7k RPM.. Well see how it goes when we complete testing..

Mike

Thats what im lookin for. Sounds promising, I hope you can flirt with some of those records. I too would love to see those records in your sig.

[AWD Motorsports]

We are hoping to get the car back next week after the holiday for more testing.. Ill keep you guys posted dont worry..

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Evo swaps out in a Jiffy?? LOL Thats 1 of the worst Transmissions jobs to have to do.. If your GOOD at it the job takes 5-6 hours in and out.. And thats after we have done 200-300 of them probably..

Mike

Ya PRetty sure any AWD car is a pain in the ass a both my friends with Evo9 and Evo X sent their cars out to get clutch work done, yet when we had FWD Honda/acura it took us all of 2 hrs on our backs.

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by JPSlick

Ya PRetty sure any AWD car is a pain in the ass a both my friends with Evo9 and Evo X sent their cars out to get clutch work done, yet when we had FWD Honda/acura it took us all of 2 hrs on our backs.

Evo X forget it.. The car is ridiculous to do clutch with all the bracketry behind the engine..

Mike

[techlogik]

Originally Posted by huyner328

While this discussion on beater maintenance is quite exhilarating.... I would also like to see how all these turbo upgrades differ in builds between EPL, RB and AWD.

Well that is the thing. As it has been mentioned, like the 996/997TT, they are all sorts of turbo options/upgrades. They all require a specific tune.

Seems like this is the way the N54 is going too...which is cool. You will be able to hopefully find the turbos/tune/power you want for the money you want to spend.

Nice having solid options, I would assume it will only get better with this platform over the next few years.

[BadBoostedBMWM3]

Originally Posted by ETS Michael

If anyone is interested in these turbochargers the price is $2400.00 shipped plus core. We work very closely with the guys at AWD Motorsports. Mike and his team provide real world results and only sell what they run and test. We have a working relationship with them in the Evo, Porsche and BMW market.

I'm glad to see them on the forum, they know what there doing and provide testing unlike any other vendor. They put there products through extensive drag and track racing.

Again.. The price is $2400.00 shipped plus core.

Thanks!

Michael

Micheal, so you all build the turbos??

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by BadBoostedBMWM3

Micheal, so you all build the turbos??

No Mike was trying to help us out as we were not a vendor at the time on here and ETS carries the AWD 335i turbos if you guys need.. We are an ETS dealer as well.. We work together on many projects from BMW to Porsche, STi and Evo..

Mike

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by techlogik

Well that is the thing. As it has been mentioned, like the 996/997TT, they are all sorts of turbo options/upgrades. They all require a specific tune.

Seems like this is the way the N54 is going too...which is cool. You will be able to hopefully find the turbos/tune/power you want for the money you want to spend.

Nice having solid options, I would assume it will only get better with this platform over the next few years.

Luckily a tune for the n54 is 500-1000 roughly.. The Porsche tunes are 2500 and up..

[Slidewayz]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

No Mike was trying to help us out as we were not a vendor at the time on here and ETS carries the AWD 335i turbos if you guys need.. We are an ETS dealer as well.. We work together on many projects from BMW to Porsche, STi and Evo..

Mike

Soooo......what's this rumor about a big single kit from ETS ?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Luckily a tune for the n54 is 500-1000 roughly.. The Porsche tunes are 2500 and up..

Not for long

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Slidewayz

Soooo......what's this rumor about a big single kit from ETS ?

Ill have to let Michael Chime in on that.. I dont want to spoil a possible surprise..

Mike

[OpenFlash]

Mums the word!

[MJR63]

What would be the cost to upgrade a single N55 turbo?

[Aridk]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

EPL like ours is a stock frame billet wheel setup.. The RB is a larger frame turbo using older cast wheel technology.. Its a lot of work to do this testing but if someone was able to do it i would be all for it..

Mike

Just to correct you RB uses stock frame as well and also has a larger turbinewheel similar to turbodynamics stage 2, but I´m unsue about the effect of a larger wheel on the exhaust side. E92 fan wich has tried both stage 1 and 2 TD says that stage 2 is the most powerfull at high revs.

[TurboBimmer]

Will you upgrade the wastegates to prevent rattling? IMO that's an important part of the RB package, given that design flaw of the stock turbos.

[Alpina_B3_Lux]

Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Will you upgrade the wastegates to prevent rattling? IMO that's an important part of the RB package, given that design flaw of the stock turbos.

I know it got a bit lost in all the posts about dynos and so forth, but the question has already been raised actually:

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

We also have the ONLY set of upgraded Forge Motorsport Wastegates to test as well.. So for those looking to HOLD every Psi you can these will kick ass.. Stay tuned..

Mike

In the end, all who want to do a reliable turbo upgrade will have to upgrade the wastegates IMO. Turbo Dynamics do it for their stage 1 (which is if I understand it correctly similar to AWD except they use cast and not billet rotors), and RB does it for his upgrade (which is largely similar to the Turbo Dynamics stage 2 upgrade).

Alpina_B3_Lux

[TurboBimmer]

Thanks Marcel, must have overlooked this

Looking forward to results on 93 pump gas, no meth.

[Rob@RBTurbo]

The portion that wears out is the internal wastegates (flapper, arm, bushing, lever, pin) which is a big difference from wastegate actuators, everyone seems to confuse the two. And BTW the new OEM actuators are actually very stout as well, I really do not believe they are upgradable, or at least not worth upgrading.

[TurboSid]

Sent you a PM Mike.

Good work so far!