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      07-14-2015, 10:17 PM   #23
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Love the sound of DCI with or without inlets over stock air box with a drop in.

All others have said it they're the same thing basically.
From my experience the sound is negligible unless you have the windows open. I barely notice the sound of my BMS DCI's. Especially compared to my WRX where a K&N SRI could be mistaken for a blowoff valve. Not that I wanted that again, just if you're getting DCI's for the sound I question the cost / benefit of the purchase. Just my 2c.
Very true! Comparing it to the wrx with an intake you could hear the spool very loud and like you said a bov type sound when letting off the gas. But when your windows are down in the 335i it does sound pretty nice
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Thanks for all of the helpful information on the comparison of the two guys! You have been such a help.. atleast bk335 contributed a bit, so thank you.

If you are not gonna answer my question then dont bother replying.. idc if you think im lazy for not searching, but i did not find a thread comparing the two. Just wanted to know if the quality is comparable, not about peformance.
...i tried to help. They are the same. Same company makes the filters, S&B. There isn't much more you can say.
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      07-15-2015, 02:37 PM   #25
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They're both the same, only difference is we offer free shipping on orders above $100 so if you purchase anything else along with it you save $10-15.
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      07-15-2015, 02:41 PM   #26
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Thanks for all of the helpful information on the comparison of the two guys! You have been such a help.. atleast bk335 contributed a bit, so thank you.

If you are not gonna answer my question then dont bother replying.. idc if you think im lazy for not searching, but i did not find a thread comparing the two. Just wanted to know if the quality is comparable, not about peformance.
yeah guys, you dont have to be dicks about it.

Maybe OP is blind and cant see they are the exact same thing.
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yeah guys, you dont have to be dicks about it.

Maybe OP is blind and cant see they are the exact same thing.
I contributed!

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The BMS uses special cold rolled plastic (clearly possible..) connecting tubes and titanium hose clamps to greatly reduce weight to reduce turbo lag to about 0.005 sec as well as makes your engine float.
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      07-15-2015, 03:49 PM   #28
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I forgot to mention in my last post that BMS has submitted the DCI setup to CARB for approval and hope to have it 50-state legal in the coming months. Not sure that matters to most but for people in Cali its pretty significant.

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      07-15-2015, 04:08 PM   #29
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I'm not sure whats going on in this thread, but it seems like a bunch of people with opinions and no data. Everyone is patting each others backs telling each other they are correct (when they aren't). In addition, a vendor's opinion is always there to persuade sales so take VRSF's input with a grain of salt.

I have attached a picture showing both filters. They are both made by S&B as many have referred to, but are certainly not the exact same filter and have their differences.

Differences:

VRSF (Left on picture):
  • Universal filter available to anyone who wants to buy from S&B
    Not as large sizing wise (cubic inches) as BMS filter?
    Smaller width top and bottom of filter
    Does not have "stopper" for the Aluminum pipe, makes install more difficult and not as smooth

BMS (Right on picture):
  • Custom filter only available to BMS
    Larger size than VRSF?
    Wider top and bottom of filter
    Has "stopper" for Aluminum pipe to make install very easy
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I'm not sure whats going on in this thread, but it seems like a bunch of people with opinions and no data. Everyone is patting each others backs telling each other they are correct (when they aren't). In addition, a vendor's opinion is always there to persuade sales so take VRSF's input with a grain of salt.

I have attached a picture showing both filters. They are both made by S&B as many have referred to, but are certainly not the exact same filter and have their differences.

Differences:

VRSF (Left on picture):
  • Universal filter available to anyone who wants to buy from S&B
    Not as large sizing wise (cubic inches) as BMS filter?
    Smaller width top and bottom of filter
    Does not have "stopper" for the Aluminum pipe, makes install more difficult and not as smooth

BMS (Right on picture):
  • Custom filter only available to BMS
    Larger size than VRSF?
    Wider top and bottom of filter
    Has "stopper" for Aluminum pipe to make install very easy
You are right about those small differences albeit completely negligible. I sell both so I don't care which anyone buys either. The original BMS filters were just like the VRSF are now. BMS took them a step further over the years. As far as the widths, again negligible, at least performance wise.

If you get down to the nitty gritty the BMS may install easier because they are more shallow. The taller length has a tendency to cause them to cross paths and rely for the upper to lay on the lower filter, if that makes sense.

I don't think anyone including myself has really took the time to analyze the differences to this extent, so props for going out of your way.
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Honestly... Drop a K&N in that air box!!! Everyone who drives a Chevy knows the absolute power to be had!!!
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From my experience the sound is negligible unless you have the windows open. I barely notice the sound of my BMS DCI's. Especially compared to my WRX where a K&N SRI could be mistaken for a blowoff valve. Not that I wanted that again, just if you're getting DCI's for the sound I question the cost / benefit of the purchase. Just my 2c.
There was a notable increase in induction sound for me even with the windows up (and I drive with them up pretty much all the time, as that blocks out the sound of the wastegate rattles Lol)

Compared to stock the car pretty much sounded like a Camry (I.e. No sound).
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I'm not sure whats going on in this thread, but it seems like a bunch of people with opinions and no data. Everyone is patting each others backs telling each other they are correct (when they aren't). In addition, a vendor's opinion is always there to persuade sales so take VRSF's input with a grain of salt.

I have attached a picture showing both filters. They are both made by S&B as many have referred to, but are certainly not the exact same filter and have their differences.

Differences:

VRSF (Left on picture):
  • Universal filter available to anyone who wants to buy from S&B
    Not as large sizing wise (cubic inches) as BMS filter?
    Smaller width top and bottom of filter
    Does not have "stopper" for the Aluminum pipe, makes install more difficult and not as smooth

BMS (Right on picture):
  • Custom filter only available to BMS
    Larger size than VRSF?
    Wider top and bottom of filter
    Has "stopper" for Aluminum pipe to make install very easy
Thank you for taking the time to make to compare both products. We offer both and they are very popular. In terms of sound or performance, they are identical.
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I'm not sure whats going on in this thread, but it seems like a bunch of people with opinions and no data. Everyone is patting each others backs telling each other they are correct (when they aren't). In addition, a vendor's opinion is always there to persuade sales so take VRSF's input with a grain of salt.

I have attached a picture showing both filters. They are both made by S&B as many have referred to, but are certainly not the exact same filter and have their differences.

Differences:

VRSF (Left on picture):
  • Universal filter available to anyone who wants to buy from S&B
    Not as large sizing wise (cubic inches) as BMS filter?
    Smaller width top and bottom of filter
    Does not have "stopper" for the Aluminum pipe, makes install more difficult and not as smooth

BMS (Right on picture):
  • Custom filter only available to BMS
    Larger size than VRSF?
    Wider top and bottom of filter
    Has "stopper" for Aluminum pipe to make install very easy
Thank you ! Looks like the BMS is the easy no-brainer since they are practically the same DCI but the BMS is easier to install and has wider air filters.
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Why would anyone get DCI's when inlets are available?
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Love the sound of DCI with or without inlets over stock air box with a drop in.

All others have said it they're the same thing basically.
From my experience the sound is negligible unless you have the windows open. I barely notice the sound of my BMS DCI's. Especially compared to my WRX where a K&N SRI could be mistaken for a blowoff valve. Not that I wanted that again, just if you're getting DCI's for the sound I question the cost / benefit of the purchase. Just my 2c.
At 2500 when pulling I hear nine in the cabin but with the windows down they sound intoxicating (in a good way).. If you want more you gotta remove the cowl lol
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Why would anyone get DCI's when inlets are available?
Cost?

My car is FBO with E60. While i do see a big benefit performance wise getting inlets, i cannot justify paying more money on a car with 116k miles.

My current power ~ 450 whp and 500 wtq is more than enough for a daily driver
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Meh, although I'm sure the above products get the job done just fine, I had no problem spending a couple more bucks to get dry-style filters and the accompanying pre-filters. More than a few UOA results have shown that they are much more effective filters when compared to the oil-style kind, especially when running extended OCIs. Not really a fan of oil-style filters for that reason.

At the end of the day, will it really make a NOTICEABLE difference over time? Maybe yes, maybe no. If the option is there though, I'd gladly pay the difference. Just my $0.02
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Why would anyone get DCI's when inlets are available?
This is some of the tastiest bait I've seen in awhile!
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BMS...do it. Everybody is hopping on this inlet train but installing inlets seems like a huge PITA especially compared to just the DCI
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This is some of the tastiest bait I've seen in awhile!
Perhaps I'm confused. I am new to this scene of things.
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