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      07-11-2014, 04:05 PM   #23
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I assume we are talking about the same tired dyno chart(with its whole host of issues) you always bring up?
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I assume we are talking about the same tired dyno chart(with its whole host of issues) you always bring up?
Host of issues like

*No adaption time (yet we have other dynos showing no time to adapt but making power
*Running wrong octane (tune was for 91, he was running 93)

Right.
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Host of issues like

*No adaption time (yet we have other dynos showing no time to adapt but making power
*Running wrong octane (tune was for 91, he was running 93)

Right.
Pretty sure I remember more than just those two...

But hey, what does Smooth 330i know. He just had them both, back to back, with the same mods, on a car he tracks regularly and daily drives. He's probably pretty out of touch with it.
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Pretty sure I remember more than just those two...

But hey, what does Smooth 330i know. He just had them both, back to back, with the same mods, on a car he tracks regularly and daily drives. He's probably pretty out of touch with it.
I guess this dyno doesn't mean anything in light of Smooth's butt dyno.
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I have the bms powerbox and it makes a night and day difference. PPl argue that you dont get power gains but it makes the drive a hell of a lot funner which is worth it for me
what differences do u notice with the powerbox? im thinking about getting one for my 328xi
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what differences do u notice with the powerbox? im thinking about getting one for my 328xi
you live in NY so so you have the 3 stage... just get a normal tune
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you live in NY so so you have the 3 stage... just get a normal tune
no idea what that means bro

I google'd and found this
http://store.activeautowerke.com/act...ware-p124.aspx
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o gosh a tune showdown...
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no idea what that means bro

I google'd and found this
http://store.activeautowerke.com/act...ware-p124.aspx
normal tune=AA tune, OE tune, or butt dyno Evolve
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no idea what that means bro

I google'd and found this
http://store.activeautowerke.com/act...ware-p124.aspx
educate yourself:

https://www.google.com/search?q=AA+tune+328i+site:www.e90post.com&client= firefox&hs=8hS&rls=com.yahoo:en-USfficial&channel=sb&gws_rd=ssl


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normal tune=AA tune, OE tune, or butt dyno Evolve
hahah
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Regardign the Evolve dyno

I ran Petro Canada /Sunoco 94 , the tune is for 91, Shell 91 feels a lot better for the tune. Its way more aggresive.

Other Dynos had an intake, I had paper filter with charcoal. Going to euro box opened up tourqe for me.

Apples to oranges... Look at Desi4life10's 328xi n52 dyno of AA on Petro Canada 94. We shared the sdame dyno. Only difference is he had an Perfomance Intake. i didnt
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o gosh a tune showdown...
haha exactly ... it's a serious matter
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Why not throw the ESS Tuning tune into the mix? That's where I'm headed!
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Regardign the Evolve dyno

I ran Petro Canada /Sunoco 94 , the tune is for 91, Shell 91 feels a lot better for the tune. Its way more aggresive.

Other Dynos had an intake, I had paper filter with charcoal. Going to euro box opened up tourqe for me.

Apples to oranges... Look at Desi4life10's 328xi n52 dyno of AA on Petro Canada 94. We shared the sdame dyno. Only difference is he had an Perfomance Intake. i didnt
He's also an Auto AWD.
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He's also an Auto AWD.
Smooth 330i went from the AA tune to the Evolve tune, and felt gains across the board. Seems like nobody is better qualified to speak on the differences between them, as I don't know of anyone else who has run both.
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Smooth 330i went from the AA tune to the Evolve tune, and felt gains across the board. Seems like nobody is better qualified to speak on the differences between them, as I don't know of anyone else who has run both.
My car felt faster too, the dyno proved otherwise.

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My car felt faster too, the dyno proved otherwise.
Good to see you're deeply in tune with your car

Gas pedal tricks on effect how the car feels on tip in. WOT performance is unsusceptible to such tricks, so if the car feels faster at the top end where you're riding out the revs at WOT, it actually is faster.

All that said, all 3 of my Evolve tunes do the opposite to the gas pedal mapping, as I can't stand a twitchy throttle. And I've disabled sport mode throttle mapping, so there's no chance of undoing it.
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Good to see you're deeply in tune with your car

Gas pedal tricks on effect how the car feels on tip in. WOT performance is unsusceptible to such tricks, so if the car feels faster at the top end where you're riding out the revs at WOT, it actually is faster.

All that said, all 3 of my Evolve tunes do the opposite to the gas pedal mapping, as I can't stand a twitchy throttle. And I've disabled sport mode throttle mapping, so there's no chance of undoing it.
My butt dyno is well calibrated, I could tell the difference between my first tune (5whp) was just at top end compared to stock. And I was able to tell the difference between the 3Stage And stock -however, I don't believe anything without a dyno.

Since I figured out my issues, I'll go back to the dyno again to see what is what, this will be my 5th trip. I don't talk the talk, I walk it to.
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so, butt dyno is inversely proportionate to real dyno gains? lol, Im confused.
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so, butt dyno is inversely proportionate to real dyno gains? lol, Im confused.
Nah - I like numbers. Feels are hard to quantify.
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what differences do u notice with the powerbox? im thinking about getting one for my 328xi
well its basically a sprint booster. it remaps the throttle so your gas pedal is A LOT peppier. you can also adjust the sensitivity.

gets rid of the dead pedal for real and will def put a smile on your face
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I just can't be impressed with that for $900
Where did you find that dyno? Thats not with the 3IM right?
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