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      07-09-2015, 12:11 AM   #23
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10.5 et25 265 1.2 camber rears - shave, rolled and pulled, zero issues would comfortably fit 11's dropped on its nuts
That camber sounds pretty good!

Did nelson shave roll and pull your rear guards?
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10.5 et25 265 1.2 camber rears - shave, rolled and pulled, zero issues would comfortably fit 11's dropped on its nuts
That camber sounds pretty good!

Did nelson shave roll and pull your rear guards?
Was actually Queen Street customs
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Unfortunately for the rears, you cannot avoid shaving when going wide/aggressive... There's a pesky metal tab which holds the rear bumper to fender which chews into the tyres.
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      07-09-2015, 05:19 AM   #27
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Was actually Queen Street customs
Dont think i would trust those guys haha
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      07-09-2015, 07:01 AM   #28
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275 35 will get you some chunkier look but without neg camber n rolling guaranteed to rub even wit conservative drop on springs. Also tyre brands make a big difference too as the side walls have a smoother thinner profile while michelins and yokos have taller walls. Falkens, nittos and toyos generally have best walls to allow some offset and drop stances. I think go for falkens 265 30 19 go max camber on stock arms and roll. If it still rubs then consider shaving. Jus my opinion. Good luck
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maybe 453's is a better option for victorian weather.
I got talked into the Falken 453's by a tire salesman, and I regret it every time I hit peak boost.

They're not real performance tyres, regardless of what the salesman tells you. Don't make the same mistake I did!
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I got talked into the Falken 453's by a tire salesman, and I regret it every time I hit peak boost.

They're not real performance tyres, regardless of what the salesman tells you. Don't make the same mistake I did!
Did you find them noisy also? Yeah I dont really rate them also, but they seem popular
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      07-11-2015, 05:58 PM   #31
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Can I presume that shaving the guards refers to slicing off a portion of the lip on the guard?

I have just put some 220 rims from an M3 on my E92. Have had the guards rolled but still scrubbed very badly so I went back to 255 from 265 to stop the worst of it. It only scrubs now on a moderate bump or where there the suspension crosses up as you go across a change in road angle. I would like to get rid of the scrubbing but am loathe to take a knife to the car or to open the wallet enough for coilovers.

Any thoughts?
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      08-27-2015, 09:40 PM   #32
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Unfortunately for the rears, you cannot avoid shaving when going wide/aggressive... There's a pesky metal tab which holds the rear bumper to fender which chews into the tyres.
Does anyone have a pic of this metal tab?

I'm getting my guards rolled today, but Nelson thinks I'm going to need more like the guards pumped also to fit hoping to get a 275 Nitto NT05's on a 19 x 10 ET25 rim

Who do you guys go to for pulling/pumping the rear guards? I believe Tony got his done @ Queen St?
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I got talked into the Falken 453's by a tire salesman, and I regret it every time I hit peak boost.

They're not real performance tyres, regardless of what the salesman tells you. Don't make the same mistake I did!
+1. I bought those tyres recently and they have less grip than the stock Bridgestone run flats! There a budget tyre.
Picking the right offset rim is everything. I have 265's on some rims that scrub, then i have other rims with 275's and there is heaps of clearance, could easily go 295's.
get your offset right
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Unfortunately for the rears, you cannot avoid shaving when going wide/aggressive... There's a pesky metal tab which holds the rear bumper to fender which chews into the tyres.
Does anyone have a pic of this metal tab?

I'm getting my guards rolled today, but Nelson thinks I'm going to need more like the guards pumped also to fit hoping to get a 275 Nitto NT05's on a 19 x 10 ET25 rim

Who do you guys go to for pulling/pumping the rear guards? I believe Tony got his done @ Queen St?
Yep, got it done at Queen St.

See attached pic mate.
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Does anyone have a pic of this metal tab?

I'm getting my guards rolled today, but Nelson thinks I'm going to need more like the guards pumped also to fit hoping to get a 275 Nitto NT05's on a 19 x 10 ET25 rim

Who do you guys go to for pulling/pumping the rear guards? I believe Tony got his done @ Queen St?
Another option is to have the hub face of your rim machined! You can generally machine about 5mm (depending on rim design) this will sit your wheels further in and may not need to roll your guards at all!
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Does anyone have a pic of this metal tab?

I'm getting my guards rolled today, but Nelson thinks I'm going to need more like the guards pumped also to fit hoping to get a 275 Nitto NT05's on a 19 x 10 ET25 rim

Who do you guys go to for pulling/pumping the rear guards? I believe Tony got his done @ Queen St?
Gave me the biggest headache trying to work this out offset, tyre size, camber and how much mm i needed for clearance when I was running an aggressive offset.

Long story short, I ended up shaving, rolling adjust camber to make it all work.

I think you will need to do the same DRJ but you won't know for sure until its done
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Another option is to have the hub face of your rim machined! You can generally machine about 5mm (depending on rim design) this will sit your wheels further in and may not need to roll your guards at all!
Ozzy tyres suggested this but I was hesitant as I didn't want to muck around with the wheels. This was just me i didn't trust it.
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Yep, got it done at Queen St.

See attached pic mate.
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Another option is to have the hub face of your rim machined! You can generally machine about 5mm (depending on rim design) this will sit your wheels further in and may not need to roll your guards at all!
Definitely will need the guards rolled, albeit I was actually thinking of this myself. I have access to a few industrial millers at work, albeit trying to clamp the rim down without stratching it may be a worry!

I've just had them freshly painted also, so would be kinda hesitant
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When you guys shave the guards do yous pain over the shaved metal to stop rust occurring?
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Ozzy tyres suggested this but I was hesitant as I didn't want to muck around with the wheels. This was just me i didn't trust it.
nek minnit - fuggs up structure and your wheel flies off on freeway.

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Well unfortunately the car wasn't quite ready for collection today, had a few niggly issues that need sorting out and unbeknownst to me I was missing a few headlight rear levelling sensor brackets that are M3 specific that the 335i items cannot be retrofitted... Oh and also the car ride height is way too low for my liking and needs to be raised another 15-20mm (yup I'm getting old!)

I had asked Pete to take the 313M rims off so I could send them to their new owner, and he wacked a set of spare rims on.

The spare rims were a set of black 220M rims that co-incedentally are the same size as the 359M's I'm fitting to the car.

With M3 spec tyres it looks ridicoulous, the rear guards are practically sitting on the tyre (m3 tyres are 275/35 R v's 275/30 335i fitment and front 245/40 vs 245/35)

The pics dont look too bad but its a lot worse in person!











Looking at some pics the dunlops look a lot squarer than MPSS:





I'm hoping that with 335i spec tyres (30 series v's 35) being a lot less taller, and also adding some ride height will be enough.

All the research I've done indicates no-one can run M3 spec tyres on their E92's. This guy runs 265/30 tyres with no guard rolling:





http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...7#post11785047

our aussie member 335i-boy has rep M359's with a 275/30 albeit his offsets are +38 v's my +25...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=750261

With the PSS on AG M359's, 275/30/19 ET38 & 235/35/19 ET35 lowered on H&R sports I only experience very minor scrubbing on the right rear. It is not scrubbing on the guard, it is just touching the inner fender lining. There is hardly a witness mark on the tyre from where it rubs the fender liner, you only just hear it over large bumps. There is no rubbing on the left rear at all.

I have a few options.

1. The guards had been rolled yesterday by nelson at sydney guard rolling. I can fit up one of the rear tyres to the rim when i get them back from the paint shop and drive down to advan for a test fitment. If it fits, all good (but hey nuthin aint ever this easy...)

2. Look at pulling the rear guards and cutting the guard liner

3. Machine 3-4mm from mounting face of rim hub:





Not keen on this option, as I may scratch my freshly painted rims...

4. Unfortunately the nitto NT05's dont come in a 265/30 19 to give me that stretch I may need to fit. So I may have to ditch them and run goodyear F1's again as they 100% fit:

This owner has 265/30 goodyear F1's on rolled rear guards with no scrubbing





So this is definitely a proven option!

I know E90's have bigger guards this guy has 275/30 semi's on his 359M's





http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=709681

FWIW this guy has Morr 8.2s 19x10et35 19x8.5et35 285/30/19 255/35/19





Here are the differences in tyres sizes:

Dunlop sport max M3 spec tyres:

275/35 19" 675.64 mm rolling diameter 276.86 wide

Nitto NT05

275/30 19" 647.95mm rolling diameter 272.03 mm wide

M3/335i fitment difference

27.69mm difference in rolling diameter & 6.86mm in width.

The difference in radius would equate to

13.84mm in height (almost 14mm lower hence why the rear looked way too low as the tyre filled any gap right up - with 335i spec tyres may only need jacking up 5-10mm vs 25mm that it looked like it needed with m3 spec tyres on saturday)

3.43mm in width. Not a great deal but an extra 4mm of clearance is something! Looking at the tyres unmounted they have a nice curve to them so strictly being semi's dont have a typical square sidewall nittos generally have some stretch.

Sorry for the big arse post, thought this may be hand for future reference in case anyone is seeking fitment with m3 rims/tyres

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Nice post DrJ. Just for the record my set up is 265/30/19 on the rears with a +25 offset with yoko avdans. On a pretty aggressive drop. No rubbing at all. In fact I added 5mm spacers to push the rims slightly. Moral is 265 should fit perfect. I'll add some pics
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What width are your rear rims tho sock
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