a couple turbo upgrade datalogs

klipseracer · 03-30-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hun77777

as i posted ealier, any words from EPL about engine potential? as far as turbo itself goes, i am sure you can run over 20psi as long as there is map for it but how about our engine? there was post about piston for our car on ebay, shouldn't we be looking into those slowly with more boost on these babies?

I think I read something from ASR about our map sensor only being good for 21 psi or something.

Bimmer This · 03-31-2010, 12:03 AM

I can't even imagine 19 psi of boost. The car must pull!

We're no worthy!

AltecBX · 03-31-2010, 12:11 AM

This makes me wonder whats going to happen with the new N55 engine.

Nice numbers by the way.

GreenPlease · 03-31-2010, 12:43 AM

That's ultimate daily driving machine stuff right there. Can't wait to see how long the shafts on those turbos last, let's hope there are no issues there.

Malaka1 · 03-31-2010, 12:50 AM

OP do you have a Vbox?

jpsimon · 03-31-2010, 12:55 AM

I might be able to get access to one, so hopefully I can do some "legit" timing.

In the mean time I've been adding a time-code to video to count 60-100 times, for instance:

Cyruz · 03-31-2010, 01:14 AM

man after watching your progress, i so wanna just get my dam waste gate rattle fixed and go get some turbo love after.

Alpina_B3_Lux · 03-31-2010, 03:44 AM

Great numbers JP, really excellent job.

Must feel amazing to drive. I hope my TD upgrades will be similarly exciting! And I'm also interested on how the Procede works with the upgraded turbos, as that's an option I'm considering with mine too, as an alternative to GIAC with whom I'm having some issues right now.

Alpina_B3_Lux

jpsimon · 03-31-2010, 09:20 AM

if you have any specific questions feel free to shoot me a PM!

dzenno · 03-31-2010, 09:39 AM

jp, when do you think you guys will be done?

dsswain · 03-31-2010, 11:58 AM

Those logs look very impressive and stable for a finalized tune, let alone an initial tune on an untested upgraded turbos. Very promising.

jpsimon · 03-31-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

jp, when do you think you guys will be done?

I'm hoping to get back on the dyno this coming week!

b1gmac88 · 03-31-2010, 12:17 PM

awesome work man! Im looking forward to seeing how everything comes out

oddjob2021 · 03-31-2010, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klipseracer

I think I read something from ASR about our map sensor only being good for 21 psi or something.

i also remember the same thing, JP: when you do start to push the boundaries, im curious if you run into the same barrier. let us know if you do run into a maximum psi issue (at the MAP sensor) with limps being induced.

jpsimon · 03-31-2010, 02:11 PM

will do

OpenFlash · 03-31-2010, 02:42 PM

The stock tmap sensor only reads up to 22psi so it's risky to run more than 20-21psi since the maximum readable positive boost error would be limited to just 1-2psi. However, we can simply add an external 2 bar map sensor for $50 that would read up to 30psi of boost. It would only have to be fed into the Procese boost input (simple harness mod) to get it to work. And it would work just fine.

Shiv

cn555ic · 03-31-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The stock tmap sensor only reads up to 22psi so it's risky to run more than 20-21psi since the maximum readable positive boost error would be limited to just 1-2psi. However, we can simply add an external 2 bar map sensor for $50 that would read up to 30psi of boost. It would only have to be fed into the Procese boost input (simple harness mod) to get it to work. And it would work just fine.

Shiv

what do you think the max boost would be for turbo upgrade such as JPsimon's?

rismo · 03-31-2010, 03:53 PM

Hi JP,

Congrats with your succesful upgrade! Your datalogs looks very impressive... and it can only get better! :-)

I just ordered a pair of turbo's myself on Ebay and planning to have them upgraded in the UK.

As my 335 is my daily ride, I was just wondering what a turbo upgrade would do the emmision checks... of course open dp's could cause emmision related troubels.. but I was wondering if the upgrade and all related changes (beside the DP's) would inlfuence emmision output...

With other words, would an engine with upgraded turbo's pass emmision checks?

Anyhow, a lot of fun with your new tweaks and looking forward to your dyno results...

Cheers,

R

jpsimon · 03-31-2010, 04:09 PM

i think one should be more worried about their catless exhaust (like I have) vs. the upgraded turbos.

Alpina_B3_Lux · 03-31-2010, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsimon

i think one should be more worried about their catless exhaust (like I have) vs. the upgraded turbos.

+1

As long as you've got the secondary cats in place and the original downpipes (or DPs with high-flow cats), an upgraded turbo shouldn't be a problem.

Alpina_B3_Lux

gian335 · 06-18-2010, 12:47 AM

jp, any v-box runs on these turbos yet? Im sure you have your summer tires on

jpsimon · 06-18-2010, 07:27 AM

no I just finished breaking in the clutch. so vbox runs will come soon

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dsswain Private 1 Rep 97 Posts Drives: AW/E90/MT Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	Those logs look very impressive and stable for a finalized tune, let alone an initial tune on an untested upgraded turbos. Very promising.
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3154 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	will do
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rismo Captain 81 Rep 911 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	Hi JP, Congrats with your succesful upgrade! Your datalogs looks very impressive... and it can only get better! :-) I just ordered a pair of turbo's myself on Ebay and planning to have them upgraded in the UK. As my 335 is my daily ride, I was just wondering what a turbo upgrade would do the emmision checks... of course open dp's could cause emmision related troubels.. but I was wondering if the upgrade and all related changes (beside the DP's) would inlfuence emmision output... With other words, would an engine with upgraded turbo's pass emmision checks? Anyhow, a lot of fun with your new tweaks and looking forward to your dyno results... Cheers, R __________________ BMW 335 E92 09 - Full options - DKG - MHD by Buraq - RB Next Gen - RB Inlets/Outlet - Forge Diverter Valves - AR Catless DP - Afe Intake - Helix IC - FuelIT Stage 2 LPFP - Ar Oil Cooler - PPK Water Cooler - M3 Suspension - JRZ RS1 Shocks - Eibach Pro Springs - Drexler LSD - BMW IS Exhaust - Carbon Endurance Brake Pads - Stainless Steel Brake Lines - M101 Wheels - Michelin PS2 - M-Tech Body - M-Strutbar BMW M550i G30 2019 - BM3
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