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      02-14-2007, 04:33 PM   #23
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There is no way a Boxster would keep up with a tuned 335i at the track, regardless of turns. the boxster may be midengined AWD, but the 335i with near 50/50 weight distribution is no slouch in the handling department, either, and the 335i's power would more than make up for the slight loss in the twisties.
unless the 335i shuts down due to over heating after a number of laps. the boxster is lighter and can probably run many more laps in one session due to the low hp output and less load.

335i is an awesome touring/performance sedan/coupe, however, not optimized for track duty (unless severely butchered). The Z2 on the other hand...
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boxter is slow, i had a MT with an exhaust and intake... POS! lol
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I hope you meant it as a joke, because the Boxster is the least fancy Porsche you can get these days. The cheapest and the slowest.

In the grand scheme of Porsche worthiness, even a modified 335 has a ways to go before it can touch the top cars...
Wow...I just got home from a particularly long day. My thread is getting long, and a little off track here.

Anyhow, no I wasn't joking, only b/c I imagine the guys in the yellow Boxter thought they were pretty cool in their Porsche and they figured they could possibly blow away (or at least keep up) with the Bimmer 3'er. Now, I don't know what they were really thinking since I wasn't in their car...I was of course in my car way, way far ahead of them! Hey, maybe they really think they're just a couple of nerds in their slow, overpriced, and overrated Porsche Boxter????

btw - yes, I understand that the Boxter is the least expensive and slowest Porsche; although, I really don't consider $45k for base Boxter "cheap" by any means. My loaded 335i had an MSRP for $53k, and that's certainly not inexpensive either. Again, I knew that the Boxter wouldn't be able to keep up with my XEDE-equipped 335i; I was just having a little fun with them.
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Wow...I just got home from a particularly long day. My thread is getting long, and a little off track here.

Anyhow, no I wasn't joking, only b/c I imagine the guys in the yellow Boxter thought they were pretty cool in their Porsche and they figured they could possibly blow away (or at least keep up) with the Bimmer 3'er. Now, I don't know what they were really thinking since I wasn't in their car...I was of course in my car way, way far ahead of them! Hey, maybe they really think they're just a couple of nerds in their slow, overpriced, and overrated Porsche Boxter????

btw - yes, I understand that the Boxter is the least expensive and slowest Porsche; although, I really don't consider $45k for base Boxter "cheap" by any means. My loaded 335i had an MSRP for $53k, and that's certainly not inexpensive either. Again, I knew that the Boxter wouldn't be able to keep up with my XEDE-equipped 335i; I was just having a little fun with them.
it should be about the same speed as a stock corvette with procede right? go find one of them and watch their jaw drop, although im going to go ahead and say the corvette actually would butcher the 335 on the track
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The C55 is the most interesting and quite frankly surprising. Even though I had Xede and a passenger in the car who weighed at most 150-160lbs, the C55 still had a slight edge acceleration while in 3rd gear at 6200 rpms, my front bumper was about 8-10 feet away from his rear and I could tell he was still pulling on me. But what makes this C55 interesting is how fast it is for a stock car, even the owner admits his car seems faster than normal. He's met other C55 owners and pulled at least 2-3 CLs from 40-130. They ran this car against an E60 M5 and it kept a 1-1.5 CL lead on the M5 up to 125 from a 60mph roll on, however I do not doubt that if they were to continue, the M5 would've shown its true power.
i dont think you should be too worried about the comparison with C55

V-8, supercharged, and costs about 15k more

bigger engine+bigger figures=fast car (so im not suprised it pulled away, its stock torque figure is pretty high compared to the 335i's)

335 is only a 3 liter costs roughly 45k and is a chick magnet lol (with or without procede hehe)
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i dont think you should be too worried about the comparison with C55

V-8, supercharged, and costs about 15k more

bigger engine+bigger figures=fast car (so im not suprised it pulled away, its stock torque figure is pretty high compared to the 335i's)

335 is only a 3 liter costs roughly 45k and is a chick magnet lol (with or without procede hehe)
not to interested in chicks that are magneted to 335s





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i dont think you should be too worried about the comparison with C55

V-8, supercharged, and costs about 15k more

bigger engine+bigger figures=fast car (so im not suprised it pulled away, its stock torque figure is pretty high compared to the 335i's)

335 is only a 3 liter costs roughly 45k and is a chick magnet lol (with or without procede hehe)
C32 is the Supercharged V6 349 Hp.
C55 is NA V8 362 HP.
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wait so, what does a PROcede 335i compare against, in terms of stock cars, someone said C6 Vette, what else tho?
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good thing it wasnt this porshe you tried to race

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As a former Corvette driver I don't think a 335i with the PROcede will keep up stock, no less with a little mod or two, but it would be interesting to see.
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hahahah omg that car looks like its in fast forward
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As a former Corvette driver I don't think a 335i with the PROcede will keep up stock, no less with a little mod or two, but it would be interesting to see.
i agree the vette has an edge, but the proceded 335 will definatly be able to keep up with a stock corvette at the very least, they have about the same horsepower but the 335 has a leg up on the vette in torque, but the 335 is a little heavier too so it equals out a little im sure

shiv said he ran about 111 trap which is what the vette runs.. soo i dont see why not

but like i said im sure the vette would tear even a procede 335 to bits on a track
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i agree the vette has an edge, but the proceded 335 will definatly be able to keep up with a stock corvette at the very least, they have about the same horsepower but the 335 has a leg up on the vette in torque, but the 335 is a little heavier too so it equals out a little im sure

shiv said he ran about 111 trap which is what the vette runs.. soo i dont see why not

but like i said im sure the vette would tear even a procede 335 to bits on a track
Are we talking about a c5 or c6 ? Also a z06 or just base models?
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Are we talking about a c5 or c6 ? Also a z06 or just base models?
c5 and c6 have the same ls2 and a zo6 would not be a c5 or c6, and theres no way in hell i would compare a zo6 to a 335 lol that things a goddam rocketship
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I was talking about a 2005 base C5 (non-z06), around 350rwhp stock. The C5 Z06 also had around 350rwhp stock but is .3ths or so quicker (probably due to weight, etc). The C5 Z06's go 12.5ish @ 113, the 2005 base C5s around 12.7ish (although, some run a lot quicker...).

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I was talking about a 2005 base C5 (non-z06), around 350rwhp stock. The C5 Z06 also had around 350rwhp stock but is .3ths or so quicker (probably due to weight, etc). The C5 Z06's go 12.5ish @ 113, the 2005 base C5s around 12.7ish (although, some run a lot quicker...).

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wait huh? the zo6s use the same designation as the base models

also after some checking the c5 does NOT use the same engine as the c6, i was wrong about that, the c5 has a dog thats rated at 350BPH not WHP like you said so a procede 335 should be FASTER than a c5, also you quoted the times that a c6 runs when a c6 has 50 more HP?

but since i was talking about a c6 in the first place, i dont see why two cars that run similar 1/4s cant keep up with eachother in a straight line lol


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c5 and c6 have the same ls2 and a zo6 would not be a c5 or c6, and theres no way in hell i would compare a zo6 to a 335 lol that things a goddam rocketship
The c6 has a ls2 the c5 has a ls1 motor.

LS1= '98-'02 F-body, '97-'04 C5 Corvette ZR1, '04 Pontiac GTO
LS6= '01-'04 C5 Corvette Z06, '04-'05 Caddy CTS-V

LS2= '05+ C6 Corvette ZR1, '05-'06 Pontiac GTO, '05-'06 Chevy SSR, '06+ Chevy Trailblazer, '06+ Caddy CTS-V
LS7= '06+ C6 Corvette Z06


Anyways back to the point. I have a friend that has a 410 rwhp bolt on ls2 gto. We have another friend with a stock ls6 (385 crank hp) zo6.

They done rolls on the freeway and all the races that I have seen is the gto creeps up about 25% to 1/2 a car and keeps that lead all the way up to 140 mph.

Ive just recently raced my buddy with the gto and he would hold a leader about 1-1.5 cars up to 155 mph, from any gear really.

I havent got to race my friend with the ls6 yet, but from the out come of things it looks like a tuned 335i with procede with a proficient driver will probably be a pretty even race. The vette would probably creep up by 1/2 a car.

Now saying this I dont know the result since I havent got to try it yet. But just wait till friday and ill have new videos up again. (track day)
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I was talking about a 2005 base C5 (non-z06), around 350rwhp stock. The C5 Z06 also had around 350rwhp stock but is .3ths or so quicker (probably due to weight, etc). The C5 Z06's go 12.5ish @ 113, the 2005 base C5s around 12.7ish (although, some run a lot quicker...).

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Its a drivers race if you ask me. If the 335i can hook up correctly I wouldnt doubt it.

Shiv got a 111 mph 1/4 trap time, not too far away from stock c5 z06's, or c6's.

Saying that Ive only tracked my car without the tune, and The highest trap speed I got was 104 mph.

Im heading to the 1/8 mile track on friday to check out my new trap speed/time. Im hoping around a low to mid 8 /w a 85-87 mph trap.
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My only issue wth this thread, having been a boxster owner in the past, and having LOVED driving that car, is that it is a boxster, not boxter.

Sfgator, i appreciate how fast your car is now, and i now it handles like a dream, and i know that there is NO BETTER CAR OUT THERE, but don't pick on tyhe little guy.
And as much as i love my e90, I will never forget my boxster...like the first girl i ever kissed.
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" An unforgettable climb through the gearbox" - boxster slogan
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I was talking about a 2005 base C5 (non-z06), around 350rwhp stock. The C5 Z06 also had around 350rwhp stock but is .3ths or so quicker (probably due to weight, etc). The C5 Z06's go 12.5ish @ 113, the 2005 base C5s around 12.7ish (although, some run a lot quicker...).

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A base C5 doesn't even put down close to 350Hp at the wheels. Heck that was the crank rating. A C6 would get close to 350rwhp, not a C5. I think you are confusing the C5 and C6.
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