Synapse BOV and ER chargepipe *review*

Mikey_Bo0sts · 01-17-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mflowt5

It's not the bung itself, it is the placement. It is too close to the BOV and throttle body so meth has no time to atomize and it seeps through the BOV. Fred is changing the design at the moment and it should not be an issue in the future. If you don't plan on meth, then that is fine. Good quality product and great fitment.

I am running meth

Forcefed3 · 01-17-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

I am running meth

You need to search around and find out if that statement is true. I have not heard of any problems with people running meth through the ER charge pipe. Im sure if there have been any problems people would have reported it on here.

M3 Eater · 01-17-2011, 05:32 PM

Meth bung was too close to TB for me to get good timing.... I moved it to the elbow and everything looked great after that when running JB3. Might be different with proceed. Bung was also too deep to get CM or DO nozzles to the ID of the pipe. ER is making me a pipe with bungs on the FMIC side of the DVs and shallow enough for CM nozzles to reach the ID of the pipe.

Forcefed3 · 01-17-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Eater

Meth bung was too close to TB for me to get good timing.... I moved it to the elbow and everything looked great after that when running JB3. Might be different with proceed. Bung was also too deep to get CM or DO nozzles to the ID of the pipe. ER is making me a pipe with bungs on the FMIC side of the DVs and shallow enough for CM nozzles to reach the ID of the pipe.

Oh, okay thats good to know. Good thing I don't plan on running meth, I would be pretty disappointed.

Mikey_Bo0sts · 01-17-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Eater

Meth bung was too close to TB for me to get good timing.... I moved it to the elbow and everything looked great after that when running JB3. Might be different with proceed. Bung was also too deep to get CM or DO nozzles to the ID of the pipe. ER is making me a pipe with bungs on the FMIC side of the DVs and shallow enough for CM nozzles to reach the ID of the pipe.

you think I'll be fine with stett ?

Forcefed3 · 01-17-2011, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

you think I'll be fine with stett ?

Obviously you want Stett, so get it; it is also a good charge pipe.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...14#post5393714

Read some of that and search for "Stett Charge Pipe meth bungs"

Forcefed3 · 01-17-2011, 05:54 PM

Can anyone verify that this looks correct? It seems like it should be more snug, but thats as close as I could get it. It almost seems like its further away than last time. Still seems to be a good connection and there are no signs of a boost leak. Sorry for the awful iphone picture!
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Mike@N54Tuning.com · 01-17-2011, 05:57 PM

Best place to spray meth is in the elbow IMO!

Mike

Forcefed3 · 01-17-2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Best place to spray meth is in the elbow IMO!

Mike

Yeah, that seems like the best spot; BMS sells a good elbow.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 01-17-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Yeah, that seems like the best spot; BMS sells a good elbow.

I like this one as well.

http://www.n54tuning.com/index.php?_...d&productId=55

Mike

Forcefed3 · 01-17-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

I like this one as well.

http://www.n54tuning.com/index.php?_...d&productId=55

Mike

Yeah, that one is nice. Do you know if thats proper fitment on the ER charge pipe? Look at my picture above.

Mikey_Bo0sts · 01-17-2011, 08:13 PM

wait wait wait wait wait I don't get it , the late 09 charge pipe doesn't come off of elbow like the older models, so I can't buy just the charge pipe ?

Forcefed3 · 01-17-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

wait wait wait wait wait I don't get it , the late 09 charge pipe doesn't come off of elbow like the older models, so I can't buy just the charge pipe ?

I thought it did. Pm mike

turb0mik3 · 01-17-2011, 09:27 PM

Yes, I am positive, because I lost power on the dyno after running meth on stage 2+ for GIAC vs just stage 2. The timing is off because the meth does not have time to atomize. It's common logic too. ER stopped using meth because on their race car because they saw a power drop and just decided to run race fuel all the time on the track. Once the bung is moved the problem will be solved. I'm still waiting on mine, it has been over a month and a half...

Forcefed3 · 01-17-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mflowt5

Yes, I am positive, because I lost power on the dyno after running meth on stage 2+ for GIAC vs just stage 2. The timing is off because the meth does not have time to atomize. It's common logic too. ER stopped using meth because on their race car because they saw a power drop and just decided to run race fuel all the time on the track. Once the bung is moved the problem will be solved. I'm still waiting on mine, it has been over a month and a half...

Oh, okay this would take care of that:
http://www.burgertuning.com/CM_BMW_elbow.html

Mikey_Bo0sts · 01-17-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mflowt5

Yes, I am positive, because I lost power on the dyno after running meth on stage 2+ for GIAC vs just stage 2. The timing is off because the meth does not have time to atomize. It's common logic too. ER stopped using meth because on their race car because they saw a power drop and just decided to run race fuel all the time on the track. Once the bung is moved the problem will be solved. I'm still waiting on mine, it has been over a month and a half...

so if it's too close to throttle body it's no good ? what will you be using now ?

Forcefed3 · 01-17-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mflowt5

Yes, I am positive, because I lost power on the dyno after running meth on stage 2 for GIAC vs just stage 2. The timing is off because the meth does not have time to atomize. It's common logic too. ER stopped using meth because on their race car because they saw a power drop and just decided to run race fuel all the time on the track. Once the bung is moved the problem will be solved. I'm still waiting on mine, it has been over a month and a half...

so if it's too close to throttle body it's no good ? what will you be using now ?

All you have to do is buy the meth elbow or wait for er to update the cp.

Mikey_Bo0sts · 01-17-2011, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Oh, okay this would take care of that:
http://www.burgertuning.com/CM_BMW_elbow.html

2007 - early 2009 It wont

Forcefed3 · 01-18-2011, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

2007 - early 2009 It wont

Post a picture of the 2009 charge pipe

turb0mik3 · 01-18-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Oh, okay this would take care of that:
http://www.burgertuning.com/CM_BMW_elbow.html

I already ordered the new positioned charge pipe but it has taken fred almost 2 months to get it to me and I am getting a little frustrated...

Forcefed3 · 01-18-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mflowt5

I already ordered the new positioned charge pipe but it has taken fred almost 2 months to get it to me and I am getting a little frustrated...

Why dont you call him? I am sure he can help you out!

ttbmer · 01-18-2011, 07:14 PM

I'm in the market for a CP now, and after seeing how many people like the ER CP then I guess I'm going this route. I also see that almost everyone here runs BOVs. I'm running black Forge DVs so I'm a bit confuse now. I also read mix reviews abt BOV more bad than good!. Wa to do, wa to do???

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M3 Eater Major 36 Rep 1,054 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: May 2010 Location: Unknown iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	Meth bung was too close to TB for me to get good timing.... I moved it to the elbow and everything looked great after that when running JB3. Might be different with proceed. Bung was also too deep to get CM or DO nozzles to the ID of the pipe. ER is making me a pipe with bungs on the FMIC side of the DVs and shallow enough for CM nozzles to reach the ID of the pipe. __________________ JB4 beta 15 ohms FSB,AEM inline filter/ CM 10, ETS fmic, ER custom made charge pipe,TSW Donnington 18's,Simitumo HTRZ3, Injen DCI, AR DPs, Forge DVs, AA SLD, Koni FSD, ZSP springs.
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Forcefed3 Banned 131 Rep 4,732 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: May 2010 Location: South iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 335i [1.00]	Can anyone verify that this looks correct? It seems like it should be more snug, but thats as close as I could get it. It almost seems like its further away than last time. Still seems to be a good connection and there are no signs of a boost leak. Sorry for the awful iphone picture!
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