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      04-15-2011, 06:59 PM   #23
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i've honestly never seen a graph so starved down low....
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      04-26-2011, 03:14 PM   #24
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why are the number SO LOW ? sucks I was actually looking into this tune
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      04-26-2011, 03:17 PM   #25
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why are the number SO LOW ? sucks I was actually looking into this tune
Because it's a Mustang dyno. A chipped e92 M3 with upgraded air filter did 350whp on that dyno. The delta is about 110whp, which is plenty.

A JB4 Map 2 with full bolt-ons and methanol did 346whp on that dyno.

A Procede with Turbo Dynamics Stage 2 upgraded turbos did 382whp on that dyno.
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      04-26-2011, 03:51 PM   #26
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Because it's a Mustang dyno. A chipped e92 M3 with upgraded air filter did 350whp on that dyno. The delta is about 110whp, which is plenty.

A JB4 Map 2 with full bolt-ons and methanol did 346whp on that dyno.

A Procede with Turbo Dynamics Stage 2 upgraded turbos did 382whp on that dyno.
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      04-26-2011, 04:09 PM   #27
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Because it's a Mustang dyno. A chipped e92 M3 with upgraded air filter did 350whp on that dyno. The delta is about 110whp, which is plenty.

A JB4 Map 2 with full bolt-ons and methanol did 346whp on that dyno.

A Procede with Turbo Dynamics Stage 2 upgraded turbos did 382whp on that dyno.
If you had 249whp stock and 356whp with meth and race I'd say that's good
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      04-26-2011, 04:13 PM   #28
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Do you have any Stock numbers on the same dyno?

I'm dynoing my stg 2 soon. I'll be interested to see what it puts out. Stg 1 I did 321 whp / 378 wtq on a mustang dyno (67 whp / 57 wtq over stock).
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      04-26-2011, 04:38 PM   #29
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Do you have any Stock numbers on the same dyno?

I'm dynoing my stg 2 soon. I'll be interested to see what it puts out. Stg 1 I did 321 whp / 378 wtq on a mustang dyno (67 whp / 57 wtq over stock).
NO METH ?
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If you had 249whp stock and 356whp with meth and race I'd say that's good
SO ABOUT 20 LESS WHP THAN PIGGYS RIGHT ?
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      04-28-2011, 12:27 AM   #31
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It was pretty funny!

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      04-28-2011, 01:14 AM   #32
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i'm not afraid to say it dude, i don't like the way that graph looks.

i bet the car feels "smoother" because there is ZERO POWER before you hit 4200rpms.

you're driving an NA car it seems HAHAHA !!!
I think the differentiation between NM and ft./lbs. is playing tricks on your eyes. This might give you a better idea of the torque that the file is making.



365 ft./lbs. of torque at 2800 RPMs is nothing to scoff at, and definitely not what I would consider zero power. These vehicles have a high pressure fuel pump that dries up if torque is induced too quickly. This flash is relatively close to the fuel pump limits down low (the car will limp out if it loses fuel pressure).
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I think the differentiation between NM and ft./lbs. is playing tricks on your eyes. This might give you a better idea of the torque that the file is making.



365 ft./lbs. of torque at 2800 RPMs is nothing to scoff at, and definitely not what I would consider zero power. These vehicles have a high pressure fuel pump that dries up if torque is induced too quickly. This flash is relatively close to the fuel pump limits down low (the car will limp out if it loses fuel pressure).
Are you sure about that? There are many people who are crack well over 400 wtq down low.
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Are you sure about that? There are many people who are crack well over 400 wtq down low.
I have seen this file do over 400wtq on a dynojet and other mustangs as well. If anyone thinks that they can break that on our "heart breaker" dyno, they are more than welcome to try. There are individuals on here that know just how much of an ego killer it can be.



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      05-02-2011, 07:59 PM   #36
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I personaly dynoed on a mustang with just a dci and meth and crack 390wtq, my base line 242 whp and 25x wtq. No limps, no fuel codes.

Can you explain a little more in regards to this limp if you load the car up with boost down low?
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I have seen this file do over 400wtq on a dynojet and other mustangs as well. If anyone thinks that they can break that on our "heart breaker" dyno, they are more than welcome to try. There are individuals on here that know just how much of an ego killer it can be.



Goddamn, you are sustaining 400+whp up to 6.8k RPM. On my car with a piggyback, power tails off dramatically past 6k RPM, tapering to around 375whp at redline.

Color me impressed....
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I believe that was ER's race 135i with their custom intake manifold. Still a very nice looking graph
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I believe that was ER's race 135i with their custom intake manifold. Still a very nice looking graph
I would die to have that kind of power curve on pump gas No band-aid meth kit to supplement the stock fuel system... urgh
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I would die to have that kind of power curve on pump gas No band-aid meth kit to supplement the stock fuel system... urgh
I believe that car has meth lol and uses race gas. I migth get them confused with the berk 135.

Speaking of ER and Berk, do they use off the shelf stage 2 race maps or custom mapping?
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      05-02-2011, 08:46 PM   #41
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This is the 1st time I see a dynojet of GIAC with so much power, how come mr.5's dynos are like 20 whp below ?
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I have seen this file do over 400wtq on a dynojet and other mustangs as well. If anyone thinks that they can break that on our "heart breaker" dyno, they are more than welcome to try. There are individuals on here that know just how much of an ego killer it can be.



Fantastic graph Austin! I got the file installed last month. Would you mind PMing me with the supporting mods that run has. I'd love to get the same results and post it on here for the incredulous ones to at.
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Went to the dyno today to test GIAC Stage 2 Race map with methanol injection. Everything went flawless, as expected from GIAC and Aquamist. I have also tested the standard Stage 2 map with meth injection.

Mods: Wagner Intercooler, Macht Schnell 3" coated downpipes, BMW Performance Exhaust (no cats), Aquamist HFS-2 methanol injection, custom Mr.5-style intake.

My observations: On the Stage 2 map, I got identical results with and without methanol injection. But the "without" test was done in the winter, methanol will probably help alot in the summer.

Baseline: 249whp (on the same dyno).
Something is wrong with this graph - look at where the TQ and HP meet -
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      05-02-2011, 10:05 PM   #44
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That actually makes your results look even worse. Most full bolt on guys running meth simply CRUSH m3s with a flash and filters
thats what i was waiting for someone to say...
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