[CASHBY]

Originally Posted by AB Tek 818

How about boost targets not reached and limp modes that are logged? Though it is not conclusive evidence, couldn't that be an indicator that PROcede was installed?

it is not tracable by BMW.....PROcede is an interceptor, and invisible to the ECU...so it doesnt logg it.

I know someone who was accused of having procede, they sent his ECU data to BMWNA and it came back 100% clear

[bimmertec]

We can tell if the proced is installed by lookin at the adaptations in the dme i checked mine after installing my procede and driving for the weekend and the adaptaions are way off which i expected. BMW NA knows wut the adaptations look like with the procede installed so they know you had it installed.

[jonerik26]

i've never been so afraid to mod a car just because of all the stories i've heard about people bringing their cars to be service only to be pestered about their mods. sheesh, so sad so sad

[dolby]

Originally Posted by bimmertec

We can tell if the proced is installed by lookin at the adaptations in the dme i checked mine after installing my procede and driving for the weekend and the adaptaions are way off which i expected. BMW NA knows wut the adaptations look like with the procede installed so they know you had it installed.

How long would the ECU take to fall back to "normal" adaptions if you removed or bypassed the Procede?

dolby

[jon@themshop]

Originally Posted by bimmertec

We can tell if the proced is installed by lookin at the adaptations in the dme i checked mine after installing my procede and driving for the weekend and the adaptaions are way off which i expected. BMW NA knows wut the adaptations look like with the procede installed so they know you had it installed.

Well that just sucks!

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by bimmertec

We can tell if the proced is installed by lookin at the adaptations in the dme i checked mine after installing my procede and driving for the weekend and the adaptaions are way off which i expected. BMW NA knows wut the adaptations look like with the procede installed so they know you had it installed.

You mean the ltrims?

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by bimmerboi

Just got a call from BMW saying car is ready and then he asked did you modify your car? i said no not at all... Took procede out before it hit the shop. Dont get how they know?

In other words you bold-faced lied to your BMW service guy. Then you threatened to sue them. Do you have a conscience? Sounds like you got a lucky break!

[jon@themshop]

Originally Posted by Terry335

You mean the ltrims?

BMW doesn't really call it Long term fuel trim... they call it "Multiplicative adaptations" which is part throttle loads. "Additive adaptations" is idle.

[bimmerboi]

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by jon@themshop

BMW doesn't really call it Long term fuel trim... they call it "Multiplicative adaptations" which is part throttle loads. "Additive adaptations" is idle.

Yeah I figured +30% is going to trigger something. Best to reset the ECU and drive around before going in.

[bimmertec]

I havent ried to see how long it would take to bring them down in this car but usually if you cruise on the highway to 10-15 minutesd they will come down.

[bimmertec]

but good luck doing that with a bad fuel pump

[schneid4323]

Originally Posted by bimmertec

I havent ried to see how long it would take to bring them down in this car but usually if you cruise on the highway to 10-15 minutesd they will come down.

There is a way to reset even permenant adaptations, something involving a jumper cable and the battery. But driving it for a time period without the PROcede will also do it, problem is what do you do if the car isnt driveable.

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by schneid4323

There is a way to reset even permenant adaptations, something involving a jumper cable and the battery. But driving it for a time period without the PROcede will also do it, problem is what do you do if the car isnt driveable.

Disconnect the battery and leave it that way. Say you didn't want it to drain sitting on their lot if anyone asks.

[schneid4323]

Originally Posted by Terry335

Disconnect the battery and leave it that way. Say you didn't want it to drain sitting on their lot if anyone asks.

Or use the famous "Oh I thought thats what you are spossed to do" excuse. Or "Must have been the tow truck driver"

[dolby]

I got a tank of bad gas last week and would have liked to have known this trick.

Originally Posted by schneid4323

There is a way to reset even permenant adaptations, something involving a jumper cable and the battery. But driving it for a time period without the PROcede will also do it, problem is what do you do if the car isnt driveable.

[retrodrive]

Look...thanks for telling us that but now delete this thread ASAP. For your own sake.

[schneid4323]

Originally Posted by dolby

I got a tank of bad gas last week and would have liked to have known this trick.

Actually that happened to me too, eventually it worked itself out though.

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by bimmerboi

gimme a break i know you wouldnt admit to having modified your car.

Are you just blowing off the consequences of the initial decision to break your agreement? I'm trying not to be judgemental, cause that starts stupid wars, I'm just a little incredulous about the overt entitlement attitude. I'm glad you shared you experience so those interested can learn what to expect. That is, what BMW's position is on third party mods.

I've sort of been in a similar situation. I've spent over $10K on heavy mods (and another $10K or so on repairs) to another car, but those mods weren't in the form of "secret box" and all were specifically done after warranty expired.

[j|rz44]

LMAO...
Nice cover up!

[schneid4323]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

Are you just blowing off the consequences of the initial decision to break your agreement? I'm trying not to be judgemental, cause that starts stupid wars, I'm just a little incredulous about the overt entitlement attitude. I'm glad you shared you experience so those interested can learn what to expect. That is, what BMW's position is on third party mods.

I've sort of been in a similar situation. I've spent over $10K on heavy mods (and another $10K or so on repairs) to another car, but those mods weren't in the form of "secret box" and all were specifically done after warranty expired.

I actually take my 335 to the dealership with all the mods on, they try to void my warrenty and i bitch like hell. Always worked for me, dunno exactly how but it somehow got me outta paying for a clutch and a list of other things.

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by Terry335

...and rounded air filter bolts.

TTFTW