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      11-18-2011, 07:49 PM   #23
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ya i have to agree there pretty damn slow/under tuned , im im pretty sure they are supercharged at least the older model cobalt ss were supercharged not turbo , they may have changed it.
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      11-18-2011, 08:06 PM   #24
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I raced a cobalt ss with similar mods from a dig. My car was stock with only an exhaust.. I pulled about a car length and he hung with me the rest of the way..
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      11-18-2011, 08:06 PM   #25
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ya i have to agree there pretty damn slow/under tuned , im im pretty sure they are supercharged at least the older model cobalt ss were supercharged not turbo , they may have changed it.
The older models were supercharged, beginning in 08(IIRC) they are turbocharged. Like i said, you've got nothing to worry about. It would probably take an upgraded turbo, FBO, TBE and meth to run with SBO+tune N54.
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      11-18-2011, 08:40 PM   #26
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well see how things go..

He has full Hahn exhaut, dp, intake, charge pipes, front mount, bsr tune, pushing 330whp/370tq
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      11-18-2011, 08:51 PM   #27
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Dude it'll come down to the driver. He's way under weighing you. However, given that rwd usually sticks more, you may be good to go.

I raced one with my civic n pwned his ass lol. Made me laugh all day. Pathetic supercharged and only ran a 14.2 Pffft
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      11-18-2011, 08:52 PM   #28
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If you race from a roll, I honestly think he will take you.
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      11-18-2011, 08:56 PM   #29
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idk i sat in it its pretty decent fast but not as fast as mine.. what map should i run on jb4 ? map 1 or map 5 ??
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      11-18-2011, 09:29 PM   #30
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Run Map 5 and let it adapt a few days ahead of time....then, knock his @ss out.
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      11-18-2011, 09:46 PM   #31
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My good friend has a cobalt ss turbo sedan with a tune and no exhaust. I had a jb3 2.0 and dci. From a dig it was a pure rape fest considering I'm awd. From a roll things are much more interesting. I love those little cobalts, they will surprise even a tuned n54 car and shouldn't be taken lightly. I am able to walk from him pretty good now, but I'm FBO and meth so I'd hope I would. Once he mods up and goes with a better Trifecta tune I expect to have stiff competition.

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      11-18-2011, 09:50 PM   #32
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My friend has a turbo SS with mods putting down around what the op listed. they are surprisingly fast, however first and second gears are worthless from a dig. Race from a 50mph roll of you want any sort of competition from him.
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Cobalts are cool cars, the fact that it isn't as nice or expensive is irrelevant. It's like a GTR guy being taken down by a single turbo N54 sometime in the future and then taking solace in the fact that you are going home in a 3 series. Give respect where it's due and you look much less like a douche bag.
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      11-19-2011, 01:20 AM   #34
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haha thanks ^
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      11-19-2011, 01:32 AM   #35
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OP, told you those cobalts aren't to be taken lightly. Your full weight DCI/FMIC JB4 car with a manual at that on Map 1 would trap 109-110 in the quarter mile on a GOOD day. I'm all about rooting for the N54, but I don't think this will be a race in your favor especially from a highway roll. But get it on video and show us! I love race videos.

I regularly race the modded C63's and E63's on an "airstrip" to 160 mph, and my full weight 335i auto with meth+bolt-ons loses by 1 to 2 cars. Consider those C63's and E63's trap up to 9-10 MPH faster than the typical Map 1 N54, so do the math.
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      11-19-2011, 01:44 AM   #36
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idkk well see ; ) ill race him... i might run map 5... i think map 1 is ehhh!
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      11-19-2011, 01:55 AM   #37
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idkk well see ; ) ill race him... i might run map 5... i think map 1 is ehhh!
You do understand map 5 can run LESS boost than Map 1 in bad conditions, right?

Get some E85, mix 1 part of it to 2 parts 93 octane gas, run map 7, will be a better race that way.

I personally think Map 1/5 is a slow joke. But hey, that's just me.
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      11-19-2011, 01:59 AM   #38
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bad conditions showing what ??? idk were to get race gas in my area lol no lie..
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bad conditions showing what ??? idk were to get race gas in my area lol no lie..
I said E85, not race gas.

Look it up. E85 should be fairly easy to find in Florida.
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      11-19-2011, 09:30 AM   #40
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not trying to sound like a dick but does it even matter?? those cars weigh like 2000lbs and if its pumped up with all kinds of power then it may. I have friends who have civics that push 9 -10 second 1/4 miles and will kill most exotic cars out there...

At the end of the day, you're in a BMW.. hes in a Chevy cobalt... enough said.
I came from a cobalt and i resent that statement....jk

Jk. If he has never been in a BMW then im sure he loves the ss... Stock for stock the ss supercharged ones feel faster then my 335i... Its not however...
I don't know about the turbo'ed ones but if they didn't straighten out the shitty launches with the supercharged ones then you should be able to take him from a stop...

The cobalt was nice until i got the bimmer. It has ruined me.
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Douche-hole would not be the correct word....maybe a douche
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I don't know about the turbo'ed ones but if they didn't straighten out the shitty launches with the supercharged ones then you should be able to take him from a stop..
The smarter guys are running some tunes with gear dependent boost on the newer turbo model. Lower boost early, then max boost near the top of second and up.
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there is no game with your car man

the 335i will smoke the cobalt
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      11-19-2011, 10:58 AM   #44
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I said E85, not race gas.

Look it up. E85 should be fairly easy to find in Florida.
I only wish you were right bro. There is not a drop of it here!!!
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