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[BrazilianBimmer]

Alright, have a good night. I'll keep an eye on this thread.

[Eno335]

Just a question.. How are Coni DW's with a slight stretch??

[#Tee]

Originally Posted by edirtaynine

275 width on a PSS is gonna be fat (width, not height) since PSS's are wider than other brands of the same width number. so with your spacers, your rears are going to be +27 while running 275 PSS's and since your fenders are already rolled and pulled, you should barely clear any rubbing. if you do rub since those tires are wide, you can try to dial in a little more camber and you should be fine.

im a bit confused with what you're looking for though... are you trying to NOT stretch tires? or are you trying to get a little stretch? because PSS's are tires you dont really stretch... its almost counter-productive lol.

lol ya its gonna rub bigtime, i just want to see it happen ahha

[hipnotic]

let it rub gizmo

[gizmo335i]

F that, lol...sounds like I'm gonna end up getting the exact same setup as you..

Anyway, yeah I think some are misunderstanding...or I didn't articulate exactly what I was asking...

I just wanted to know what tires WILL stretch when I put on 275/30. I guess I am wanting the tire to stretch. I hate any rubbing....

The car in that pic has the EXACT same rear specs as me with PSS's. 275/30/19 +27 on 19X10. Staring at that pic...those looks somewhat stretched? Or I'm crazy...which is def possible. I couldn't find a response from hiim whether or not he's rubbing....

So what will 275 Invos look like? Will they be stretched?

I really want to buy the best tire I can...$$$ not being an issue..

[DriftDreamzSS]

Originally Posted by gizmo335i

So what will 275 Invos look like? Will they be stretched?

No tire in the world will stretch when used in a 275 width on a 10" wheel, get a 19x11.5 then it will work. I think you are placing far too much importance on the minor differences between brands instead of the actual tire size. You need to go to like a 245 or 235 before its really a stretch. Dont pay any attention to the guys saying they "stretched" 265/30's on a 19x10 thats just retarded and not an accurate statement at all. Overall this thread is very confusing... Basically you have conservative fitting wheels, and you want to put big wide tires on them with spacers to make them appear to be more aggressive but you want them to look stretched too?

[gizmo335i]

lol...you're right this is getting confusing...but hopefully some are learning too..

OK...first let me say I THINK you're wrong. I have 275's on a 10" wheel now Toyos and they are pretty damn stretched. Now, maybe your definition of stretched must be different I guess....but I'm not exaggerating. And I'm talking to a member on here now with the exact same setup as me who has Invo's 265 and he says they're pretty damn stretched too.

2nd - The main thing for this thread is this > I was not WANTING a stretched tire necessarily (as in I WANT that look). I just wanted to get either the PSS or the Invo's (better tires than the Toyos from what I've read). And I wanted to know if they would be the same stretch as the Toyos are now.

I made another thread asking all this in detail but noone would respond. So I figured I'd make a thread that would somehow draw people in more/better. And titling it stretch..I figured it would work...and it did. I found out the info I wanted to know plus more..so thank you.

Again, I guess I shouldn't say you're "wrong"....maybe you've seen many more "stretched" setups than I have...and mine wouldn't really be considered stretched. But I have it stuck in my head that they are. And in this thread I'm being told that the PSS's (the tires I really want) are really beefy and in the same size I have now will not be stretched AT ALL. So that makes me a little worried because my fenders are sitting as flush as they can be without rubbing right now (accounting for the stretch of the tire). So if I put 275 PSS's on, it sounds like it's going to rub. And I don't want to remove my spacers...I like how it's setup now. But I can get the guy to come over and roll me some more. Not sure how the front will go.

So...I have the 275/30 PSS's being mounted right now and I will go see how it looks in a couple hours. They are being cool about it. If I don't like it, then I can switch to either the Invos or try a more narrow size with the PSS.

I know people on the forum usually don't want to read long posts...so sorry this is so long. But I just don't see how you can talk about tire/wheel/flush/stretch without it being long....otherwise....it gets confusing and people don't know what the hell you're talking about....or then again, maybe it's just me...

[edirtaynine]

do you have a pic of your 275 toyos on the 10" wheel? cuz that shouldnt be a stretch. at all. maybe the toyo's rounded shoulder is giving you the impression that it's "stretched"?

invo's also seem to run more narrow than the stated widths (opposite of the PSS), so a 265 invo probably does look stretched on a 10" wheel.

the 275 PSS's are going to be fat. no doubt. i used to run 255 PSS's on my 9.5" rears and they were the same as some 265's lol.

[Pcemkr]

Falken 452, Falken Ziex Ze-512, Dunlop Direzza DZ 101

Falken 512s stretch the best IMO

[gizmo335i]

Originally Posted by edirtaynine

do you have a pic of your 275 toyos on the 10" wheel? cuz that shouldnt be a stretch. at all. maybe the toyo's rounded shoulder is giving you the impression that it's "stretched"?

invo's also seem to run more narrow than the stated widths (opposite of the PSS), so a 265 invo probably does look stretched on a 10" wheel.

the 275 PSS's are going to be fat. no doubt. i used to run 255 PSS's on my 9.5" rears and they were the same as some 265's lol.

Well, I got the PSS's 275 and 235. Brought them home and put 'em on. It's funny cause the front I wasn't worried about. But they're not stretched AT ALL. The rears are at least stretched just a hair.

Either way I called them back and I'm getting 265 and 225 instead. And I'm getting my fenders rolled some more to be sure. We'll see. I'm just set on these PSS' s now after reading how great they are. Worst case, I can take the spacers off...sure don't want to though.

You might be right about the Toyos. But I've read where so many say they're stretched and when I bought them Zoeb said yeah Toyos are stretched. They look more stretched in person than in these pics.

You're right about the PSS's though...holy shit...can't wait to feel how they ride...which might not be till Tuesday...in the end it'll be worth it tho...

Anyway here's some pics of the Toyos..not stretched a lot but WAY more than the PSS's..

[Pcemkr]

That is not stretch... ^

[Infamous]

Thats not stretched at all. The sidewall is just rounded.

[gizmo335i]

Somehow I knew you all would say that. If that's not stretched then damn....I'm speechless. I will say they look way more stretched in person than in these pics.

I know that everytime someone looks at my car, they mention how stretched my tires are. Granted it's almost always someone who doesn't know or pay much attention to these things.

I never even thought about stretch before I got these wheels in with these tires already mounted. When I mentioned this to Zoeb...he's like "Yeah, Toyos stretch a lot."

[Pcemkr]

265 on a 10" is NOT stretched! It's the proper size for the wheel width. 255 would be mild stretch and 225-235 is definitely stretched.

http://tyrestretch.com/

[gizmo335i]

^^ That's about what my toyos look like to me right now...and I have a 275 on a 10

[Pcemkr]

Ummmmm no, there's no way. 225 vs. 275....

The listing says 235 actually, but the image says 225..

[gizmo335i]

lol....not as much but still stretched quite a bit...

[Hooy]

Here's my 265 Nitto Invo on a 10.5"

Hope this helps

[Pcemkr]

My 235/40 on 18x10" front and 265/35 on 18x11" rear

[edirtaynine]

Originally Posted by gizmo335i

Somehow I knew you all would say that. If that's not stretched then damn....I'm speechless. I will say they look way more stretched in person than in these pics.

I know that everytime someone looks at my car, they mention how stretched my tires are. Granted it's almost always someone who doesn't know or pay much attention to these things.

I never even thought about stretch before I got these wheels in with these tires already mounted. When I mentioned this to Zoeb...he's like "Yeah, Toyos stretch a lot."

hahahah yeah i think the "confusion" here is the difference in perception. your toyos are definitely not stretch. in fact, they're normal. lol. i think you're just not used to the rounded shoulders of a toyo.

also it seems like you're slightly misunderstanding when people say "xxxx tires stretch". when people refer to which tires stretch "better", it's simply about what brand to use when trying to stretch tires. it's not picking a brand is what makes the stretch. for example, a 235 michelin on a 11" wheel will stretch more than a 265 falken on a 9" wheel. the falkens arent going to stretch simply because they're falkens. its all about the combination of wheel width, tire size and tire brand. not one of these factors are more important than the other.

[Manboy]

Originally Posted by gizmo335i

I gotta say that even if it's not a stretch, the rim of the wheel does protrude and there is no rubber protecting the edge of the rim at all..

Personally, I like this look with exposed rim edge on a 19" or 20" wheel - it just looks more aggressive to me..

[Pcemkr]

It's also whether or not the tire has a rim/lip protector. Some have this and it flares out a little.

If you have expensive enough wheels, you be careful enough not to curb them. I know it's not always avoidable as I had to replace an outer lip due to an asshat cutting me off.