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      01-16-2014, 07:13 AM   #23
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I had NS2's on my 335i with 400bhp+ and they were the only tyre that wouldnt make my car snake around everywhere in wet or dry. I had eagle f1 and they made my car understeer at anything above 30mph. I recon your NS2's werw part worn shit bought by the last owner as it needed tyres before sale and wanted to save a quick buck. The age has pribably affected them or maybe the width. Mine are 285/30/19.
sorry chap, there is no way that Nankang NS2's out performed Goodyear Eagle F1's (of any guise!)

The only explanation that I can think of is that you didnt have Nankang NS-2's but instead had Nankang NS2R's which is a road legal track tyre....
even then on a wet road the Eagle F1 Assym2's would wipe the floor with them.
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      01-16-2014, 12:56 PM   #24
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I can't believe people are advocating Nankangs. It's a feckin' BMW, not a Yugo Zastava.
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sorry chap, there is no way that Nankang NS2's out performed Goodyear Eagle F1's (of any guise!)

The only explanation that I can think of is that you didnt have Nankang NS-2's but instead had Nankang NS2R's which is a road legal track tyre....
even then on a wet road the Eagle F1 Assym2's would wipe the floor with them.
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I can't believe people are advocating Nankangs. It's a feckin' BMW, not a Yugo Zastava.
Totally agree!!
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      01-16-2014, 01:32 PM   #26
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Back in the day a toyo was laughed at. A yokohama was laughed at and a avon was also laughed at. Now in actual fact they are the most used track tyres around. At less than half thr cost of a good year or michelin who really laughing now.

Tyre snobbing is a pet peave of mine tbh. My car is 400+bho. Your is a 330d. If they work on my car with no issues at all they can more than handle your 263bhp.
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      01-16-2014, 02:41 PM   #27
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CustomColours has a 400+ bhp car, so he's obviously right. You guys with your plebeian 320 and 330d's have no argument here.

As I'm also a member of the 'pick a number over 400' club, I am absolutely certain that noone who drives a vehicle as unfortunately underpowered as (insert any other car) could possibly comprehend the effect on grip that rubber of varying quality might have.

Consider yourselves told. In fact, perhaps if you weren't all so busy spending (or should I say wasting) money on things like premium tyres, OEM brake disks and pads, oil and other similar non essentials, perhaps you too could afford the awesomeness that is a 400+ car.

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      01-16-2014, 02:44 PM   #28
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      01-16-2014, 03:23 PM   #29
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CustomColours has a 400+ bhp car, so he's obviously right. You guys with your plebeian 320 and 330d's have no argument here.

As I'm also a member of the 'pick a number over 400' club, I am absolutely certain that noone who drives a vehicle as unfortunately underpowered as (insert any other car) could possibly comprehend the effect on grip that rubber of varying quality might have.

Consider yourselves told. In fact, perhaps if you weren't all so busy spending (or should I say wasting) money on things like premium tyres, OEM brake disks and pads, oil and other similar non essentials, perhaps you too could afford the awesomeness that is a 400+ car.

Matt
Your so right, my 320d produces so little power I don't actually need tyres!

Grips like sh*t to a blanket on the rims!

Not to mention, my plus 300+ hp rust datsun, the Michelin psr track tyres never gripped! Ha!
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Your so right, my 320d produces so little power I don't actually need tyres!



quality!
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      01-16-2014, 05:08 PM   #31
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We rely more on aero downforce, not mechanical grip.
There's a new tyre called ns-g3ko

Fantastic grip generated. Dutch guy was the chief engineer, name is Johannes Van der Vaals.


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Your so right, my 320d produces so little power I don't actually need tyres!

Grips like sh*t to a blanket on the rims!

Not to mention, my plus 300+ hp rust datsun, the Michelin psr track tyres never gripped! Ha!
I couldn't agree more about a 320d not needing tyres actually. I saw a program about high speed driving once and I saw a 320d do about 5 miles without tyres. The car that was filming it had normal tyres on and seemed to be quite a bit slower. It was a great program actually. Had loads of technical data on the screen like speed, time and date etc.

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I can quite often break traction on my Michelin Pilot Super Sports. Now, these apparently were selected by M division, but would Nankangs be better and never break traction?
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I can quite often break traction on my Michelin Pilot Super Sports. Now, these apparently were selected by M division, but would Nankangs be better and never break traction?
Never, even in snow!

Nankang, used by the stig, in Sweden!
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Michilin PSS FTW!
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From all that ive read about the ns2s its the wet traction that is the issue. In the dry they are ok apparently...but i too only use premium brands. Contis are my go to but tried good year assym 2s and love them!
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http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Nankang/NS2.htm

says it all really

PSS:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Mi...uper-Sport.htm

Vorti's get good reviews:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Vr...trac-Vorti.htm
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I totally agree. Wet traction is an issue, I like to surprise her by skipping foreplay completely and literally ramming it in. I prepare by thinking about Carol outfoxing me in a series of more and more complex mental challenges, before she finally allows herself to use me like a cheap but effective Dutch sex toy.

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      01-16-2014, 06:16 PM   #39
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I had NS2's on my 335i with 400bhp+ and they were the only tyre that wouldnt make my car snake around everywhere in wet or dry. I had eagle f1 and they made my car understeer at anything above 30mph. I recon your NS2's werw part worn shit bought by the last owner as it needed tyres before sale and wanted to save a quick buck. The age has pribably affected them or maybe the width. Mine are 285/30/19.
I take it that you are one of the guys who claims to have big enough bollocks to drive everywhere with all the stability aids off as well then.

I would be surprised if all other tyres caused the car to snake around and understeer at >30mph, especially given the number of scientifically conducted reviews to refute that assertion. Perhaps the NKs are just have such low grip levels that they spin up more evenly?

In your position I would also be concerned if you are convinced that the effect others have seen with these tyres is due to partial wear, as you are heading straight for that particular issue as your own tyres wear.

It is true that many well known brands have been crap in the past (I remember Michelins in the 90s being absolute crap in the wet as compared to Pirelli / Contis on identical family cars), but years of development has moved them on from this. BMW themselves started car manufacture with licence built Austin 7s. Does that mean we should judge them by that today?

I've never really understood either the use of budget tyres, nor the running down to the absolute limit of tread. That thin strip of rubber is all that is keeping you from an early death... and I value my life and those of my passengers a little more highly.
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      01-16-2014, 06:19 PM   #40
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NS-2 design must be at least 10 years old now

I remember fitting them on my 1.2 corsa 9 years ago as i thought the tread pattern was cool. Lol
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