[mesier1111]

Originally Posted by sajakh

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..2.*


"All at once the BMW coupe that we've considered the leader in its class finally decides it's had enough. With its oil temperature pinned at 300 degrees F and its coolant temperature climbing rapidly, the turbocharged Bavarian wonder engages its limp-home mode and we crawl pathetically back to the pits.":mad: :mad: :mad:

SCREW EDMUNDS.....those idots couldn't test a car if their life depended on it. When "Car and Driver" and "Toad and Track" and others test the two cars face to face in all conditions and get official performance times (0-60, 1/4, skid-pad) then I will listen.

[picus]

Did you guys read the article? The 335i overheated on lap 4 of Edmunds test, they had been driving it all day with other journalists. There is no indication anywhere that some autos have a flaw that causes them to run hot. There is information that points to cars without the cooler overheating. If it makes you feel better talking about how you "drive hard" and never see above 240, great... hotlap the car for an hour.

Driving on the highway at 90mph for 6 hours isn't flogging.

Do I think this is the end of the world? No. I am more irked that BMW chose to omit a $100 part from a $45,000 car.

[Ninjaneer]

Originally Posted by mesier1111

SCREW EDMUNDS.....those idots couldn't test a car if their life depended on it. When "Car and Driver" and "Toad and Track" and others test the two cars face to face in all conditions and get official performance times (0-60, 1/4, skid-pad) then I will listen.

Toad and Track? Is that like an advanced version of Frogger?

[mesier1111]

Originally Posted by Ninjaneer

Toad and Track? Is that like an advanced version of Frogger?

Damn........my typing sucks. I am not even going to edit that, will be more fun to watch people make fun of me

[nightops]

Ha - i thought that was on purpose..

[S4to335]

Originally Posted by Jonmartin

I find it funny that no one that I've heard of yet had this problem in the real world and that even in my proceded 335i in 100 degree day drivng hard as hell I've never experience that problem but somehow when Infinti gets a hold of a BMW for a press event to show of the car versus it's competition it somehow overheats magically. If you guys read it right Infinti arranged the whole thing obviously to purposely destroy the BMW image and showing off their car to the press.Can't anyone figure that out? lol this is funny especially after reading BMW just won a suit against infiniti for "jockin" their M letter lol. Infinti is such a poser brand it's not funny. On the other hand maybe this is for the better that way I'll see more of these souped up rental cars on the street and less 335's

Track stresses are way more that a few acceleration runs.

[nightops]

Originally Posted by picus

Did you guys read the article? The 335i overheated on lap 4 of Edmunds test, they had been driving it all day with other journalists. There is no indication anywhere that some autos have a flaw that causes them to run hot. There is information that points to cars without the cooler overheating. If it makes you feel better talking about how you "drive hard" and never see above 240, great... hotlap the car for an hour.

Driving on the highway at 90mph for 6 hours isn't flogging.

Do I think this is the end of the world? No. I am more irked that BMW chose to omit a $100 part from a $45,000 car.

I agree-those are conditions that maybe 5 percent of the people buying these cars are going to be subjected to anyway. Bmw should have covered themselves and made all of them to the same standard so that potential 'tests' couldn't expose this kind of weakness. Besides, its nothing that driving the car normally with the heater blasting couldn't have corrected, all cars can run hot when abused like that...

[Ryan(e92)]

An event held by infiniti and the winner is.................... INFINITI!!!!! WOOHOO lets all stroke eachother off we won the event we setup.

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by picus

Did you guys read the article? The 335i overheated on lap 4 of Edmunds test, they had been driving it all day with other journalists. There is no indication anywhere that some autos have a flaw that causes them to run hot. There is information that points to cars without the cooler overheating. If it makes you feel better talking about how you "drive hard" and never see above 240, great... hotlap the car for an hour.

Driving on the highway at 90mph for 6 hours isn't flogging.

Do I think this is the end of the world? No. I am more irked that BMW chose to omit a $100 part from a $45,000 car.

Just because one overheated doesnt mean that they all will, I have hot lapped my car... no overheating

[Corey]

Originally Posted by Ryan(e92)

An event held by infiniti and the winner is.................... INFINITI!!!!! WOOHOO lets all stroke eachother off we won the event we setup.

Edmunds did the test, not Nissan.

[picus]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Just because one overheated doesnt mean that they all will, I have hot lapped my car... no overheating

Well, we're up to four now, but I see your point.

You did hot lap your car? I didn't know that. What were the conditions? I have also done something very similar to hot lapping and did not overheat, however as you know my car does run hotter than "average". It seems like it does take some doing to overheat the cars; that's why I am not having a total fit about it - still, you have to admit the omission of the oil cooler is rather puzzling.

[Jonmartin]

Originally Posted by Corey

Edmunds did the test, not Nissan.

Read it again NISSAN setup the test at their own proving grounds and invited Edmunds and other journalist.Thats pretty much all I needed to hear.

[nightops]

Originally Posted by Corey

Edmunds did the test, not Nissan.

I don't think Edmunds has any bias toward infiniti, that's for sure. They're usually gushing about Bmws just like all the other car publications. Seeing the new design of the Infiniti coupe, Bmw doesn't have to worry about losing too much market share to the G37

[Crazy Bimmer]

Originally Posted by Corey

It never stated what the test car had for a transmission, only that the 335 is available with a 6 speed auto as opposed to the 5 speed auto in the new G.

Sounds to me that they were saying both cars were Automatics.

Originally Posted by edmunds

Our seat-of-the-pants assessment says that the G37 isn't quite up to that task, due mostly to its torque deficit, fewer gears (the Bimmer has a six-speed automatic) and heavier estimated weight (3,682 pounds vs. 3,571 pounds).

[Crazy Bimmer]

Originally Posted by picus

Did you read the thread? The car tested was an auto. Most auto's currently in the US market don't have an external air to oil cooler like your car. That + track = overheat.

And nissan was smart...

This all-too-dramatic demonstration of Japanese-versus-German engineering occurred at Nissan's Arizona Test Center where Infiniti invited a select group of journalists to drive the 2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe back-to-back with Germany's best

The 335 was beat on in the Arizona heat all day with journalist and then did 4 laps. No kidding the NA motor would do better than the biturbo motor.

[Corey]

Originally Posted by Crazy Quattro

sheesh you keep spitting out wrong info. Read the article first then comment!

You just quoted exactly what I said. I will agree however it is very likely it was an automatic without the oil cooler as this is probably the reason for the overheating issue.

The 335 was beat on in the Arizona heat all day with journalist and then did 4 laps. No kidding the NA motor would do better than the biturbo motor.

An NA motor without adequate cooling would have suffered the same fate.

[Crazy Bimmer]

Originally Posted by Corey

An NA motor without adequate cooling would have suffered the same fate.

I would tend to think the turbo engine would have heatsoaking issues more than the NA motor.

[nightops]

I bet those turbos were practically glowing when the car decided to shut off...

[Corey]

Originally Posted by Crazy Quattro

I would tend to think the turbo engine would have heatsoaking issues more than the NA motor.

And I would tend to think BMW would include oil coolers on all their 335s to compensate for that.

[Adham]

throw some water whetter in it!!

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by picus

Well, we're up to four now, but I see your point.

You did hot lap your car? I didn't know that. What were the conditions? I have also done something very similar to hot lapping and did not overheat, however as you know my car does run hotter than "average". It seems like it does take some doing to overheat the cars; that's why I am not having a total fit about it - still, you have to admit the omission of the oil cooler is rather puzzling.

I would hand my car over to edmunds, and pay them 100 bucks if they could get it to overheat... I tried really hard, almost 30 laps, and the thing would not get over 260F... then I hear reports of people flooring it on back roads, and seeing temps above 280F... now whats with that?

[sesegal99]

don't worry, noone will be buying them, it is getting a really bad response from the members on g35driver.com..........


http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146205

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146216

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146203