335i vs GTO?? He says he will SMOKE MY WEAK car!!

BALLAJL15 · 07-28-2008, 08:36 PM

Funny thing I just went for a ride in my buddies gto.
And no when we race its legit. There not slow cars but a 335i with a tune is no match for the 6.0 or the 5.7.
Ive raced both

sflgator · 07-28-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

He was being a smartass since the OP's friend said the 335i was "weak"

Yes; hence the sarcastic

Dr_Dirt · 07-28-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BALLAJL15

Funny thing I just went for a ride in my buddies gto.
And no when we race its legit. There not slow cars but a 335i with a tune is no match for the 6.0 or the 5.7.
Ive raced both

why not?

sflgator · 07-28-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

why not?

He actually meant the reverse...that a stock or moderately tuned GTO (5.7L or 6.0L) is no match for a tuned 335i.

BALLAJL15 · 07-28-2008, 09:20 PM

exactly. Pretty much breaks down to top end.
The gto's are low end monsters but every gear that is changed a tuned 335i will begin to walk on them

LYLE LUKAS · 07-28-2008, 09:29 PM

I was gonna do a 20 or 40 mph rolls with him.............he is completely stock by the way..........he really doesn't know cars at all or the first mods that he would do, he keeps saying give me a year and i'll have a twin turbo system put in.....

Im a financial planner and I can tell he barely has enough money to keep gas in his GTO (thats why i told him to pick up a 4 cylinder $500 dollar car to save on all the gas he is spending, which he did and drives around in) and he just got a bran new house and was recently married and I know his wife and she would never let him spend 10k on his car let alone 1000 dollars............we do business together (he sends me references) so I know the amount of health insurance business he does a year pretty much would never come close to covering $10,000 of excess money to spend.........

tblue3cibm · 07-28-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by roozie2001

make sure its on a track so mother teresa here will feel better about his speech

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Originally Posted by stillclaimndp

Preaching to the wrong crowd lol.

sarcasm

Gumby_F80 · 07-29-2008, 12:16 AM

let me tell you a story. I saw this guy in a yellow GTO at a stop light. there were two people in the car. the dude rolled down the window on the passenger side and began asking me about my car. At the time, i had a 06 MKV volkswagen GTI with basic stage 2 mods. Non built internals and only basic shit to engine. no turbo upgrades. i maybe had 270whp on race gas. this dude was had just bought this GTO used and asked me to race him. i raced him (in mexico), on a slight incline up to about 125 and pulled a car on him. VW > GTO? pontiac aint shit. sorry

stillclaimndp · 07-29-2008, 01:52 AM

i went door to door with a 2005 6.0 gto in my chipped s4 then pulled my chipped s4 with my procede 335i like it was standing still, go get em~

Sniz · 07-29-2008, 01:07 PM

I ran my friends 06 GTO when I had V1.47 Procede and it was a dead heat. He trapped 109mph stock, they are not weak cars people, mainly weak drivers.

If you havea strong tune you will beat him as long as he is stock, but you'll have to drive well. If you mess up just a little you will not outpull the LS2 at high speeds, end of story.

turbojet3 · 07-29-2008, 01:42 PM

A friend of mine is running 12.50s with a few bolt-ons.

hotrod182 · 07-29-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by turbojet3

A friend of mine is running 12.50s with a few bolt-ons.

With stock tires? A JB3 335i will run 12.6x with everything else stock including RFTs and 91 octane. With DRs that would easily be 12.40 or less.

timtech · 07-29-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LYLE LUKAS

I was gonna do a 20 or 40 mph rolls with him.............he is completely stock by the way..........he really doesn't know cars at all or the first mods that he would do, he keeps saying give me a year and i'll have a twin turbo system put in.....

When I run GTO's, the first thing to look for is drag radials or full slicks. If they don't have that, it's pretty telling that they don't have much more under the hood. They are VERY traction limited - and people think the 335 spins badly.

If they have the tires, it doesn't take much to drop them into the lower 12's cams mostly, line locks, etc That puts them into the same ball park as a 335 with a good tune.. Then it's a drivers race... Which you will still want to really practice your launches.

Be safe and whoooop his arse - on a track. That way you have time slips to rub under his nose.

chili cheese · 07-29-2008, 09:06 PM

Who really gives a crap. He's driving a POS GTO....yuck.

Not only is your car 1000 times better, but you'll probably beat him in a race and he can cry all the way home for 2 reasons.

turbojet3 · 07-29-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

With stock tires? A JB3 335i will run 12.6x with everything else stock including RFTs and 91 octane. With DRs that would easily be 12.40 or less.

It has drag radials

GAaaAR · 07-29-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

With stock tires? A JB3 335i will run 12.6x with everything else stock including RFTs and 91 octane. With DRs that would easily be 12.40 or less.

Are u sure it can do 12.6xx with JB3 and RFT with 91 octane? I'm sure its possible if all the stars line up perfectly (perfect launch, good weather and fast track). But i think 99% of the time it'll probably run 12.8s - 13s and trap around 110-111mph.

However since you did 12.13s before, maybe you know what you are talking about. If what you are saying is true then a 335i with JB3 or V3 with stock RFT would be able to run even with a e92 m3? 12.6xx sounds like m3 territory to me.

mistermojorizin · 07-29-2008, 11:42 PM

^that's what terry timed it at on his gps performance timer

he got like 12.2 @ 114 mph with dragradials and aprox. 93 octane. 12.6 @113 with jb3 only on 91 with rft.

this was in a 135 btw, not a 3er

ToothDoc · 07-29-2008, 11:59 PM

Yeah, but Terry pulls like 1.6x 60' times. Who else can say that?

mistermojorizin · 07-30-2008, 12:11 AM

^ Not quite 1.6

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1466

2.0 sec 60 foot time for the 12.6 on rft.

also, launch and technique doesn't effect the MPH much - which was 113 on 91octane. That's the best measure of performance.

Banker335i · 07-30-2008, 12:12 AM

i only raced one GTO And got fuckin Smoaked.....He was Twin Turbo..lol those fuckers Boosted are Sick.

GAaaAR · 07-30-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mistermojorizin

^that's what terry timed it at on his gps performance timer

he got like 12.2 @ 114 mph with dragradials and aprox. 93 octane. 12.6 @113 with jb3 only on 91 with rft.

this was in a 135 btw, not a 3er

How accurate are gps performance timers?

Tman1800 · 07-30-2008, 09:50 AM

Ok I raced a 06 GTO coming back from San Francisco on the 1 freeway. He came up behind me and I jumped on it till about 135-140mph and we was not to far behind me. So I slowed down and he got next to me at about 60mph. We jumped on I took him for the first 3 or so seconds then he shifted and was able to pull me. We did another run at 40 and again I got the jump but once he shifted he was gone. That GTO did not sound stock at all and I know the LS1 motor, I was stock so my 300 hp vs 400+hp when moving she will take me all day. Now off of the launch, from a dead stop maybe I might have had a chance.

I am a diesel Mechanic by trade so I know alot about engines and performance shit. I used to own a 1968 Camaro with a 454 duel carb monster and I am now working on my 1962 Nova with 383 stroker motor. You can't beat cubic inch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

07-28-2008, 08:36 PM	#45
BALLAJL15 Lieutenant 29 Rep 569 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California iTrader: (3)	Funny thing I just went for a ride in my buddies gto. And no when we race its legit. There not slow cars but a 335i with a tune is no match for the 6.0 or the 5.7. Ive raced both __________________ N55
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07-28-2008, 09:20 PM	#49
BALLAJL15 Lieutenant 29 Rep 569 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California iTrader: (3)	exactly. Pretty much breaks down to top end. The gto's are low end monsters but every gear that is changed a tuned 335i will begin to walk on them __________________ N55
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07-28-2008, 09:29 PM	#50
LYLE LUKAS Banned 20 Rep 598 Posts Drives: Black and Sexy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Huntington Village, LI/NY iTrader: (0)	I was gonna do a 20 or 40 mph rolls with him.............he is completely stock by the way..........he really doesn't know cars at all or the first mods that he would do, he keeps saying give me a year and i'll have a twin turbo system put in..... Im a financial planner and I can tell he barely has enough money to keep gas in his GTO (thats why i told him to pick up a 4 cylinder $500 dollar car to save on all the gas he is spending, which he did and drives around in) and he just got a bran new house and was recently married and I know his wife and she would never let him spend 10k on his car let alone 1000 dollars............we do business together (he sends me references) so I know the amount of health insurance business he does a year pretty much would never come close to covering $10,000 of excess money to spend.........
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Gumby_F80 ///M 208 Rep 426 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Central Coast, CA iTrader: (0)	let me tell you a story. I saw this guy in a yellow GTO at a stop light. there were two people in the car. the dude rolled down the window on the passenger side and began asking me about my car. At the time, i had a 06 MKV volkswagen GTI with basic stage 2 mods. Non built internals and only basic shit to engine. no turbo upgrades. i maybe had 270whp on race gas. this dude was had just bought this GTO used and asked me to race him. i raced him (in mexico), on a slight incline up to about 125 and pulled a car on him. VW > GTO? pontiac aint shit. sorry
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07-29-2008, 01:52 AM	#53
stillclaimndp Dancing Machine 50 Rep 1,419 Posts Drives: 335i e90 ZSP Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walnut Creek, Ca iTrader: (0)	i went door to door with a 2005 6.0 gto in my chipped s4 then pulled my chipped s4 with my procede 335i like it was standing still, go get em~ __________________ 2007 e90 & 1981 Corvette Predecessors: 2007 BMW 335i E92, 2006 M5, 2008 Viper SRT10 Coupe, 2005 Viper Yellow, 2006 Corvette Z51, 2009 Challenger SRT8, 2006 S4, 2001.5 Nogaro Blue S4, 2006 GTI w/ DSG, 06 Evo IX, 04 S4, 04 911x51, 03 Evo VIII, 98 Eclipse GSX, 96 GST, 92 Galant Vr-4, '70 Grand Prix Model J, '70 Nova, '68 Firebird
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07-29-2008, 01:07 PM	#54
Sniz Lieutenant General 715 Rep 10,584 Posts Drives: e92 335 - gone // e36 M3 turbo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD iTrader: (1)	I ran my friends 06 GTO when I had V1.47 Procede and it was a dead heat. He trapped 109mph stock, they are not weak cars people, mainly weak drivers. If you havea strong tune you will beat him as long as he is stock, but you'll have to drive well. If you mess up just a little you will not outpull the LS2 at high speeds, end of story. __________________
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07-29-2008, 01:42 PM	#55
turbojet3 First Lieutenant 11 Rep 325 Posts Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: C. FL. iTrader: (0)	A friend of mine is running 12.50s with a few bolt-ons.
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07-29-2008, 09:06 PM	#58
chili cheese Major 105 Rep 1,085 Posts Drives: '16 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern CA iTrader: (6)	Who really gives a crap. He's driving a POS GTO....yuck. Not only is your car 1000 times better, but you'll probably beat him in a race and he can cry all the way home for 2 reasons. __________________ 2016 Z06 current 2013 M3 gone 2011 M3 gone 2007 335i gone
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07-29-2008, 11:42 PM	#61
mistermojorizin Lieutenant Colonel 41 Rep 1,657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	^that's what terry timed it at on his gps performance timer he got like 12.2 @ 114 mph with dragradials and aprox. 93 octane. 12.6 @113 with jb3 only on 91 with rft. this was in a 135 btw, not a 3er
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07-29-2008, 11:59 PM	#62
ToothDoc Second Lieutenant 5 Rep 241 Posts Drives: 997.2 TTS, CLA 45 AMG Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicagoland iTrader: (0)	Yeah, but Terry pulls like 1.6x 60' times. Who else can say that?
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07-30-2008, 12:11 AM	#63
mistermojorizin Lieutenant Colonel 41 Rep 1,657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	^ Not quite 1.6 http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1466 2.0 sec 60 foot time for the 12.6 on rft. also, launch and technique doesn't effect the MPH much - which was 113 on 91octane. That's the best measure of performance.
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07-30-2008, 12:12 AM	#64
Banker335i Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 271 Posts Drives: BMW 2008 335i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington iTrader: (0)	i only raced one GTO And got fuckin Smoaked.....He was Twin Turbo..lol those fuckers Boosted are Sick.
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07-30-2008, 09:50 AM	#66
Tman1800 Private 3 Rep 62 Posts Drives: 335I Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	GTO vs 335i Ok I raced a 06 GTO coming back from San Francisco on the 1 freeway. He came up behind me and I jumped on it till about 135-140mph and we was not to far behind me. So I slowed down and he got next to me at about 60mph. We jumped on I took him for the first 3 or so seconds then he shifted and was able to pull me. We did another run at 40 and again I got the jump but once he shifted he was gone. That GTO did not sound stock at all and I know the LS1 motor, I was stock so my 300 hp vs 400+hp when moving she will take me all day. Now off of the launch, from a dead stop maybe I might have had a chance. I am a diesel Mechanic by trade so I know alot about engines and performance shit. I used to own a 1968 Camaro with a 454 duel carb monster and I am now working on my 1962 Nova with 383 stroker motor. You can't beat cubic inch!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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