[lolololol]

Originally Posted by Dr Dave

Is it only me who likes the sound of the 330/335D engine? I think it sounds lovely!

I know the 330/335i is a different kettle of fish, but.......

I find that the engine noise (from the outside) and the exhaust note is the only elements of the D that i don't like.

[Dr Dave]

OK....it's not the BEST noise at idle but on-song it's pretty pleasing!

But I like diesels, always have done. Nowt better than the sound of a 6 or 8 cylinder derv working hard.

[beemerbird]

Originally Posted by EvoGlynn

There seems to be a huge difference in mpg for most 335i drivers. My driving is all town so guess I need to be looking at the lower end of the consumption.

Auto does has a great appeal, as I am here there and everywhere it would be more relaxing 90% of the time. But those times, when I get dragged to Bluewater or end up down some back roads and go mad, will I miss the stick??

Why is this such a difficult decision to make The ball and chain thinks its stupid.......

What a dilemma eh lol.

Seems to me your heart is set on the 335i......only you can decide whether your wallet can take the hit on the fuel costs but then the 'big D' will cost more to buy so will you actually make any savings opting for the oil burner. Diesel is currently same price as unleaded but then would you run the 335i on unleaded with the 4th fill being super unleaded, or would you only run it on super unleaded.

Also have to agree that the 'big D' does sound good for a denzil - they have quite a deep roar after a good long hard run.........mine did anyhow.

Are you a man who likes to have a stick in his hand or is happy to play with his paddles.

Has that helped at all.

Welcome btw!

[Dr Dave]

Originally Posted by beemerbird

Also have to agree that the 'big D' does sound good for a denzil - they have quite a deep roar after a good long hard run.........mine did anyhow.

Are you a man who likes to have a stick in his hand or is happy to play with his paddles.

Oh Helen I love it when you post, I really do!

[lolololol]

Originally Posted by Dr Dave

OK....it's not the BEST noise at idle but on-song it's pretty pleasing!

But I like diesels, always have done. Nowt better than the sound of a 6 or 8 cylinder derv working hard.

Maybe I need to get used to it bud, this is my 1st diesel, anyways not overly bothered how its sounds, just sick of changing windscreens every time I go through the sound barrier lol

[beemerbird]

Originally Posted by Dr Dave

Oh Helen I love it when you post, I really do!

Don't know what you mean Dave..........must be the way you're reading them.

[Dr Dave]

Originally Posted by beemerbird

Don't know what you mean Dave..........must be the way you're reading them.

It must be the Yorkshire twang Helen - infact I was up in Yorkshire at the w/e - Doncaster infact.

Drank far far too much beer. I don't learn.

[beemerbird]

Originally Posted by Dr Dave

It must be the Yorkshire twang Helen - infact I was up in Yorkshire at the w/e - Doncaster infact.

Drank far far too much beer. I don't learn.

Aghh Donny, nice weather for it then!

Funningly enough on Saturday we were sitting outside one of our local East Yorks. pubs and there was a group of early twenty something lads sitting at the adjacent tables. As soon as I heard them talking I just knew from the accent that they were from South Yorks, probably Donny, Sheffield or Rotherham etc but NOT Barnsley - wasn't strong enough lol. All different to my twang though.

A bloke drove by at one point in a sort of stretched limo thing with big speakers on the roof blasting out the Ghostbusters song . Made everyone sitting outside the pub laugh anyhow.

Wonder if the O/P has made his mind up yet lol.

[EvoGlynn]

Originally Posted by omaragha

Errr nothing mate ? The point I made was how I felt about it not necessarily how you would feel !

Sorry mate, I ment to say..... and that is what is stopping me......

I actually thought it sounded pretty good for a diesel, but I am driving a 120d!!

Hi beemerbird, I like the feeling of control of a stick to be honest. Drove an R32 with DSG and it was great but still felt detatched somehow.

I am leaning towards a BIG D as was thinking of how I drive today, hard most of the time, so my MPG will be at the bottom of the scale. Especially with a 335i, will be wanting to hear it scream all the time.

Also my driving is all town so the auto would be nice then.

But this comment is very true.....

If you buy the Big D you will be as pleased as punch as it is a wonderful car, but you will always be thinking - I wonder if I have made the right decision.

[beemerbird]

Hmmm, have to say that you're coming across as whichever fuel the car you choose 'drinks', then at some point during the ownership experience you're going to be thinking/wishing you'd bought the other.

Bottom line is whether heart over head or vice versa, but only you can decide. Which of the two cars has left the biggest impression in your mind, which stirred the senses more?

[EvoGlynn]

LOL... your probably right!! But would I be right in looking at the 335i and maybe wishing but not skint haha

But to answer your question, 335i

[beemerbird]

Streuth, hope you can make the decision on your bowel movements in time.

Seriously though, I did sensible first ie. the 335d (re-mapped ) and to this day do not regret owning that very competent all rounder. I've now gone to the extreme if you like and 'for the heart'. BUT, the heart route maybe cannot be sustained indefinately due to costs and circumstances. That said you can say 'been there, done that, got the T shirt and thoroughly enjoyed it' and comfortably return to a more sensible option which doesn't mean boring by any stretch of the imagination.

I wanted to do it whilst young enough and able to do so if that makes sense.

[EvoGlynn]

You certainly have gone to the extreme, but but what a machine you have

You do make a lot of sense, thank you

[Em135eye]

I think the 335d sounds pretty good - proper growl when you rev it - no doubting it's got some power.

Not as good as my Golf R32 (long gone) but still not bad. My boat engine sounds good though - proper petrol rumble!

[Dr Dave]

Outboard engine I take it?

[Em135eye]

Yep.

[rogerxp]

If the mpg is becoming more of a consideration than why consider the 335's at all. The 330i is a superb machine and you get the choice of auto or manual. Same goes for the 330d. Obviously if you remap these (330d being more effective) you'll be virtually as quick as the 335's anyway in real world driving.

If you're spending most of your time around town are you really going to be able to stretch the legs of the 335's. You're just going to be tootling around which will sap the mpg whichever one you go for.

You've hardly mentioned the 330i (you've only driven an auto version; try a manual), surely more fitting to your circumstances i.e. if mpg is an issue.

If however you JUST WANT a 335 (like I did in fairness) you just need to jump at it and damn the costs; both are going to cost a shed load more than a 120d. If you remap it and still drive 'inefficiently' all the talk of mpg goes out of the window anyway. A remap will only improve mpg if driven 'efficiently'.

[lolololol]

Originally Posted by rogerxp

If you remap it and still drive 'inefficiently' all the talk of mpg goes out of the window anyway. A remap will only improve mpg if driven 'efficiently'.

Very true words, I have remapped my 335D and have not seen any improvement in mpg's at all. Then again that wasnt a consideration for me with a remap.

Evo, I do a lot of town driving, stop start A roads etc and hardly any motorway driving and I am only getting 25 - 30 mpg at best in my D, gods knows what I would be getting in a petrol ???! All I know is that it could only be worse.

[Dr Dave]

Its when these cars (330 & 335D's) are out on the open road that the MPG figures come to life - around town they aren't great on fuel.

My 330d returns around 31mpg around town/A roads etc but cracked 42mpg on a long m/way journey last week. Plus I wasn't hanging about, it was 85-90 speeds.

[toxicnerve]

Originally Posted by rogerxp

A remap will only improve mpg if driven 'efficiently'.

Could someone clarify this statement for me please?

I too am debating the 335d/i decision so this is of interest to me. A remap can increase your MPG figures?

I have a fairly tame driving style (certainly in comparison to some of you lot I think it's safe to say!!!). What kind of a remap and under what sort of "driving style" would you see an improvement in MPG?

Any tips would be much appreciated.

[beemerbird]

Originally Posted by omaragha

Very true words, I have remapped my 335D and have not seen any improvement in mpg's at all. Then again that wasnt a consideration for me with a remap.

Totally agree with you guys about fuel economy post re-map. Drive enthusiastically and it will be worse than before, drive sensibly and you will gain in the mpg stakes. Short runs/town work in the big D isn't going to return high 'diesel engined' mpg either.

Can see where Roger is coming from (on this point at least) re. the 330i and real world driving although personally I found the engine needed too much constant 'work' to keep it on the boil. But then we're back to where you predominately do your driving, mine is fast A and B roads, hardly any urban driving at all so........

[Em135eye]

I'm getting low 30s in mine - but it's new to me so I'm ragging it to bits!