[Brey335i]

These arguments are so ridiculous. Dinan is a choice among many that meny people choose because it fits their lifestyle better.

You bought a BMW because you appreciate the engineering and quality... a Corvette would be faster!

I bought Dinan due to the same reasons as many; it didn't void my warranty, I wasn't at a point where I felt I knew enough about the car yet to mod it, I felt it was well engineered, it didn't push boost as much as other tunes, etc....

[Enicinitas]

Originally Posted by Brey335i

These arguments are so ridiculous. Dinan is a choice among many that meny people choose because it fits their lifestyle better.

You bought a BMW because you appreciate the engineering and quality... a Corvette would be faster!

I bought Dinan due to the same reasons as many; it didn't void my warranty, I wasn't at a point where I felt I knew enough about the car yet to mod it, I felt it was well engineered, it didn't push boost as much as other tunes, etc....

Dinan In North County San Diego shut me down when I first bought my CP owned. I wanted to initially go that route for warrarnty reasons too.

They told me that they currently had no less than 4 x35's that were in DINAN / BMW service Limbo, unable to be driven until someone claimed responsibility. THey flat out turned down my money because they thought I might get screwed too.

I'm still a bit upset that things are as advertised. BUt when it's all said and done, I will possibly have experience with a JB3, PROceed, and GIAC.

Good times.

[zesus-3]

I personally was interested in the Dinan stage 2 package and spoke to thier reps about it.....I was only interested in it bc I was under the impression that even with my extended warranty, the Dinan software would not void my warranty. That was an incorrect assumption on my part. The NJ rep told me that since my car had 51k on the clock there was no warranty they would back. He also told me that if, and only if, the car was purchased new from the dealership in Flemington that they operate out of, that the Dinan warranty would follow the 4yr 50k factory warranty.....But then he said some of what I just read through on here.....not all claims may be covered even with the factory warranty on a the new car......Right there, even with hearing the $1600 20% of sale price, i hung up the phone and started looking at other options....

Now even with the jb3 and Procede, my god, there are way way too many "issue" posts on here with both....for me, and many other people that use thier cars as daily's, we dont have a backup....so right now, until I get my company vehicle back, or buy a hooptie, I simply run my SSTT (that I paid about 75 bucks for, and think its great!!!) The software is evolving, so I will stay tuned (lol) to whats in store for the future..

The most important thing to realize is that there are some guys that dont want to be hassled with FI tuning issues, they simply want to plug and go, never have to worry and never have to lift a finger on the car.....Then there are the gear-heads on here that have thier whole lives revolve around mods and the conditions of thier cars. Both are ok, some may assume that the former do not know much about tuning or cars in general and the latter does, but that can go either way.

I myself have had 6 built Turbo Hondas and Acura's in my late teens and early 20's. (in fact i built motors and cars and paid for a majority of my student loans with that money) All I wanted to do was go to school, work on cars, track them, and work on girls!!!!.....Later on I had one of the first SC'd (then eventually TT'd) 03 350z's in the country, which was a complete headache, after that I baught my e46 M3 (which I still have) and an 04 GTO (sold) both only had minor mods, leased a 08 G37s for 2 years, and now I picked up my 07 335i simply because I got it for a steal....Im 30 now, anchored in my career with very limited free time, so I can not be wasting time under my hood....I would rather pay somebody....Years ago I would do everything myself....but time changes things, I was sick of having dirty hands amd achey joints.....I think thats basically the type of person that Dinan is catering to currently.....And thats okay, whatever floats your boat....I just remember what it was like driving FI'd and tuned cars for years, and anytime anything went, my stomach would drop...LOL Getting that feeling or worrying about reliability everyday is just not worth it right now for me....

[bmw335 power]

Originally Posted by zesus-3

I personally was interested in the Dinan stage 2 package and spoke to thier reps about it.....I was only interested in it bc I was under the impression that even with my extended warranty, the Dinan software would not void my warranty. That was an incorrect assumption on my part. The NJ rep told me that since my car had 51k on the clock there was no warranty they would back. He also told me that if, and only if, the car was purchased new from the dealership in Flemington that they operate out of, that the Dinan warranty would follow the 4yr 50k factory warranty.....But then he said some of what I just read through on here.....not all claims may be covered even with the factory warranty on a the new car......Right there, even with hearing the $1600 20% of sale price, i hung up the phone and started looking at other options....

Now even with the jb3 and Procede, my god, there are way way too many "issue" posts on here with both....for me, and many other people that use thier cars as daily's, we dont have a backup....so right now, until I get my company vehicle back, or buy a hooptie, I simply run my SSTT (that I paid about 75 bucks for, and think its great!!!) The software is evolving, so I will stay tuned (lol) to whats in store for the future..

The most important thing to realize is that there are some guys that dont want to be hassled with FI tuning issues, they simply want to plug and go, never have to worry and never have to lift a finger on the car.....Then there are the gear-heads on here that have thier whole lives revolve around mods and the conditions of thier cars. Both are ok, some may assume that the former do not know much about tuning or cars in general and the latter does, but that can go either way.

I myself have had 6 built Turbo Hondas and Acura's in my late teens and early 20's. (in fact i built motors and cars and paid for a majority of my student loans with that money) All I wanted to do was go to school, work on cars, track them, and work on girls!!!!.....Later on I had one of the first SC'd (then eventually TT'd) 03 350z's in the country, which was a complete headache, after that I baught my e46 M3 (which I still have) and an 04 GTO (sold) both only had minor mods, leased a 08 G37s for 2 years, and now I picked up my 07 335i simply because I got it for a steal....Im 30 now, anchored in my career with very limited free time, so I can not be wasting time under my hood....I would rather pay somebody....Years ago I would do everything myself....but time changes things, I was sick of having dirty hands amd achey joints.....I think thats basically the type of person that Dinan is catering to currently.....And thats okay, whatever floats your boat....I just remember what it was like driving FI'd and tuned cars for years, and anytime anything went, my stomach would drop...LOL Getting that feeling or worrying about reliability everyday is just not worth it right now for me....

Agree w/ you. I wasnt bagging on Dinan tunes as we had a two dinan e46 m3's and they were great until the 335's came out. We are big into modifying and we like to see what options we have regarding power options. We have been a previous Dinan user and probably had more dinan vehicles than average people. But i like said before Dinan screwed us pretty good on this one and slapt us with a fat bill along with the dealership even being a loyal customer. I have nothing against Dinan but also know that Dinan started out specialized cars as a chasis guy not an engine tuner. Their products works great for people that want to put it on the car and forget about it but only do this is you have pretty much a brand new car. For those of you that haven't had an issue dealing with Dinan/Dealership great, for those of you that have experienced issues with Dinan and Dealership you know what i am talking about and i hope you have lots of money too to back it up. We sold our 135 and 335 and bought an 550 and a x6M awaiting for the what the Procede can do with the v8tt. I now bring our other 3 N54 engine cars to local dealer and have me removing the procede evertime and never had a problem. Our other 335 track/toy car needed the turbos replaced and dealership did it without asking a questions. I am not a vishnu fan boy but i like what they are doing. No tune out in the market works like theirs does. Can you tell me another tune out in the market for any other car that has autotune/boost feature??

[ZombiE90]

question for everyone with Dinan...

I got the Stage 1 (mistake... should have got Stage 2 but wasn't educated at the time) as part of my negotiating when I originally got the car a couple months ago. Since I didn't get to drive the car really much at all (besides a light-footed test drive) I don't know the difference too much between stock and Dinan by feel.

I took the car in the other day b/c my ABS sensor went out and they had to "reprogram" the car, but it worries me because I think they may have flashed the ECU in the process. So the question is, is there another way you can verify that you do, in fact, have the Dinan ecu flash installed besides by "feel"?

Thanks in advance for the help

[M4TW]

A boost gauge is your best bet. If you have the BT Tool the Dinan tune, when present, throws a 2FA3 code which means "missing codes" whatever that means.

[HTRules]

Originally Posted by ZombiE92

question for everyone with Dinan...

I got the Stage 1 (mistake... should have got Stage 2 but wasn't educated at the time) as part of my negotiating when I originally got the car a couple months ago. Since I didn't get to drive the car really much at all (besides a light-footed test drive) I don't know the difference too much between stock and Dinan by feel.

I took the car in the other day b/c my ABS sensor went out and they had to "reprogram" the car, but it worries me because I think they may have flashed the ECU in the process. So the question is, is there another way you can verify that you do, in fact, have the Dinan ecu flash installed besides by "feel"?

Thanks in advance for the help

If you take your car back to Dinan they will re-flash their software for free (at least the 1st time it happens). That's how it is @ my Dinan dealer anyway; maybe confirm that with a phone call.

Also, Stage 2 requires an oil cooler - either stock or one of Dinan's, and I see that you have a 2007 car. Some 2007's don't have oil coolers...if you don't know if your car has one look @ the inside front of the right fender well - you'll see it there if you have one.

Good luck,
Rick

[Forcefed3]

Why would you need the larger oil cooler and intercooler?

Originally Posted by opdare01

With the stage 3 tune, you need the larger oil cooler and intercooler to maintain warranty...save your money...

[Brey335i]

Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Why would you need the larger oil cooler and intercooler?

Because Dinan requires it for their Stage 3 software to be installed.

[ZombiE90]

yeah i have the oil cooler in my car. i hadn't done my research when i first bought the car, and the dealer suckered me into stage 1 dinan without even informing me about stage 2 etc. live and learn. i'm trying to see if i can just pay the difference and upgrade to stage 2. does anyone have experience w/ this? would dinan do that?

the other thing, right after getting the car i had a "remote battery exhausted" error and took it back in... apparently they reprogrammed and flashed my dinan once already. this whole experience has made me a bit weary of taking the car in at all. not to mention my dealer "sends off the ecu" to dinan for programming, not doing it in-house, and it takes a couple of days w/ a rental. pretty ridiculous...

[Ramppo]

I am located in Finland no Dinan dealers here anyway when i bought my car as a new in summer 08 it was delivered to London England to be converted to Dinan S2 car(stage 3+all the suspension parts and Dinan LWFW to be installed.
Then i got my car back after one week and drove it back to Finland with the constant engine fail light on, when i got back as it was summer (not too hot up here) i started to loose lot of power when the car heated up.
Afret one month tooked ECU out and shipped it back to Dinan so they could remove the engine fail light the car sitted for 2 weeks!!.
The ECU comes back and the light is still ON!!
Tryed to contact Dinan for several times no answer still got the light.
For this i had to pay about 10000$ i am not proud of it.
Today i run Procede among several other performance mods and i am HAPPY

[GaryS]

Originally Posted by ZombiE92

yeah i have the oil cooler in my car. i hadn't done my research when i first bought the car, and the dealer suckered me into stage 1 dinan without even informing me about stage 2 etc. live and learn. i'm trying to see if i can just pay the difference and upgrade to stage 2. does anyone have experience w/ this? would dinan do that?

the other thing, right after getting the car i had a "remote battery exhausted" error and took it back in... apparently they reprogrammed and flashed my dinan once already. this whole experience has made me a bit weary of taking the car in at all. not to mention my dealer "sends off the ecu" to dinan for programming, not doing it in-house, and it takes a couple of days w/ a rental. pretty ridiculous...

About Stage 1 to 2 upgrade, I think you will pay $400 plus 1 hour labor if you do it before the current 20% discount expires. And I guess another $150 for car rental if your dealer has to send the chip to Dinan for three days.

[ZombiE90]

i just spoke w/ Chris (local TX area Dinan Rep) and he confirmed this. i'll pay the difference between the stage 1 ($1,699) and stage 2 ($2,199) which is $500 but then with the 20% sale (lasting until July 31st) the total will be $400. definitely taking it in this wknd and getting it done. thanks for the help fellas

Originally Posted by GaryS

About Stage 1 to 2 upgrade, I think you will pay $400 plus 1 hour labor if you do it before the current 20% discount expires. And I guess another $150 for car rental if your dealer has to send the chip to Dinan for three days.

[mkaaes]

The dinan cai is dead sexy, but that's about it. I added it about 1 month after I got the stage 2 tune. I got it for a pretty good price, still expensive but I'd buy it again because it looks that damn good. I have a few pics of my setup in another part of the forum if anyone wants to take a peek.

[ZombiE90]

the CAI is really clean, no doubt, but the $999 price tag of it and the BMW Perf. version are a little pricey for the gains. if i wasn't such a cheap ass i'd get one, but the <$150 BMS DCI is worth it IMO. Anyone with a nearby auto parts store could make their own DCI for 20 bucks...

[ZombiE90]

sorry, i know

[mkaaes]

Nope, but I doubt any cai or dci gives that much if any improvements. The 1k for the dinan is almost purely for the cf sex appeal. The next best cai is probably the stett or the mr 5 diy cai (almost a copy of the stett). Most dci setups seem to actually lose power. Supposedly the dinan cai is hand molded cf due to some of the intricate shapes and curves, who knows.

[Quisp]

What is stage 1? I got Stage 2 which was the ECU flash which was quite a difference over stock. I recently bumped it to Stage 3 because of the sale. Stage 3 is more aggressive flash and that requires a larger intercooler and larger oil cooler in order to maintain the warranty. Stage 2 requires at least a factory oil cooler but I am not familiar with stage 1.
Somewhat side of topic but the Dinan intake looks like a good deal compared to the AFE System.

[Brey335i]

Originally Posted by ZombiE92

i just spoke w/ Chris (local TX area Dinan Rep) and he confirmed this. i'll pay the difference between the stage 1 ($1,699) and stage 2 ($2,199) which is $500 but then with the 20% sale (lasting until July 31st) the total will be $400. definitely taking it in this wknd and getting it done. thanks for the help fellas

You're getting ripped. BMW of Austin charged me $2000 including labor for the Stage 2 Dinan software.... I really doubt I got any kind of deal on it so I believe it should be cheaper for you

[GaryS]

I've had the CAI for a week. I think the difference is obvious. With Stage 2 + exhaust, the really hard pull would start dropping off severely above 5000 rpm. With FMIC added, it didn't drop off quite as much. With CAI added, it continues pulling very hard to above 6000.

There's also a noticeable improvement in response - better throttle response or less turbo lag, something like that - but definitely an improvement.

According to Dinan, I should also feel a stronger pull in general from below 3000 rpm all the way to redline, but I don't know if I can feel that or not.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Originally Posted by Brey335i

You're getting ripped. BMW of Austin charged me $2000 including labor for the Stage 2 Dinan software.... I really doubt I got any kind of deal on it so I believe it should be cheaper for you

I think Dinan recently increased prices on all stages. I also paid $2K for my stage II (last summer). It would now cost $2300 -- with labor included.

[ZombiE90]

i finally got my P3 boost gauge installed today. quick test run around the block on a cold motor i got a max of 9.5 psi. i have dinan stage 1 right now. anyone else with stage 1, what should the max boost pressure be? dinan's website doesn't say, although it says stock is 8.8 and stage 2 is 13.0.