[E90Vader]

Lets get back on topic about COBB 2.02, I'll be receiving my unit by Thursday and uploading the 2007 Maps either Thur or Fri. Will I be getting 2.02 by that time?
I'm happy to here they have already released a more linear approach!

[caradd]

Originally Posted by E90Vader

Lets get back on topic about COBB 2.02, I'll be receiving my unit by Thursday and uploading the 2007 Maps either Thur or Fri. Will I be getting 2.02 by that time?
I'm happy to here they have already released a more linear approach!

I have not read anything about the release of 2.02, however in the link I posted previously one of the beta testers said the beta 2.02 map was running less boost.

Just try 2.01 if you end up have the power surge switch to the 2.0 map. Unfortunately the 2.0 comes with it's own set of problems. (acceleration after liftoff). Which I've experienced occasionally where others have it all the time.

[Boost XXI]

Originally Posted by E90Vader

Lets get back on topic about COBB 2.02, I'll be receiving my unit by Thursday and uploading the 2007 Maps either Thur or Fri. Will I be getting 2.02 by that time?
I'm happy to here they have already released a more linear approach!

I got my AP on Friday (thanks to Alan @ **********s - great service) and have been running the 91 Stage 1 2.01 map. While I look forward to a map with more linear throttle mapping, I don't find it difficult to modulate the boost. If they don't have 2.02 available by Thursday, don't let that stop you from loading the tune; it's too much fun as is!

[Pathy01]

Originally Posted by caradd

Form the horses mouth.

So they're saying it's not linear when rolling out of the throttle with 201. I haven't disagreed with it not being linear, but thanks for providing a statement from COBB that confirms what I've been trying to get across to you. Still waiting on the log going from 0 to 13+ PSI boost with no change in throttle position...

[caradd]

Originally Posted by Pathy01

So they're saying it's not linear when rolling out of the throttle with 201. I haven't disagreed with it not being linear, but thanks for providing a statement from COBB that confirms what I've been trying to get across to you. Still waiting on the log going from 0 to 13+ PSI boost with no change in throttle position...

You believe what you want to believe. Not wasting anymore time on it.

On another note I just procured the the 2.02 Maps and there are several throttle map settings.

I'll report back after some driving.

[vasillalov]

Originally Posted by caradd

You believe what you want to believe. Not wasting anymore time on it.

On another note I just procured the the 2.02 Maps and there are several throttle map settings.

I'll report back after some driving.

Where did you get them? I want to try those as well. Shoot me a PM if need be.

Vasil

[caradd]

So I received 6 maps. Three 91 and three 93. Each contain a I guess default, V1 and V2. V1 and V2 are suppose to be more linear. V1 for autos and v2 for manuals. The V2 is suppose to be more aggressive. All maps received slight revision to ignition timing, I'm told.

So being manual I first loaded the V2. Right off the bat I noticed the car felt like stock, (meaning stock like power). It was not until flooring the pedal I felt the power come on. And when it did come on it felt gradual not a sudden burst of power.

I did not really prefer it.

So I switched to the standard 2.02 map and that felt really good. More power everywhere, no sudden surges. I think this might be the one I stick with.

I did not bother with the V1 map since it is suppose to be less aggressive then the V2 map.

We'll see how it feels after a couple of days.

[Keebeen]

How do you receive 6 maps?

[E90Vader]

Originally Posted by caradd

So I received 6 maps. Three 91 and three 93. Each contain a I guess default, V1 and V2. V1 and V2 are suppose to be more linear. V1 for autos and v2 for manuals. The V2 is suppose to be more aggressive. All maps received slight revision to ignition timing, I'm told.

So being manual I first loaded the V2. Right off the bat I noticed the car felt like stock, (meaning stock like power). It was not until flooring the pedal I felt the power come on. And when it did come on it felt gradual not a sudden burst of power.

I did not really prefer it.

So I switched to the standard 2.02 map and that felt really good. More power everywhere, no sudden surges. I think this might be the one I stick with.

I did not bother with the V1 map since it is suppose to be less aggressive then the V2 map.

We'll see how it feels after a couple of days.

Can you re type that? You noted V1 and V2 were the maps you got.
V1 is for Auto tranny and V2 is for Manuel.
Yet V1 is also less aggressive then V2?
You noted that you did not switch to V1 as you didn't want a less aggressive mod yet I thought you mentioned V1 is only for Auto but you drive a Manual car?

I'm sorry I think I miss read or did not understand what you meant to say!
Where did you find 2.02? Does it feel smoother then 2.01 Map?

[caradd]

I suggest emailing cobb and requesting 2.02 maps. When get them you will understand what I'm talking about.

Originally Posted by E90Vader

Can you re type that? You noted V1 and V2 were the maps you got.
V1 is for Auto tranny and V2 is for Manuel.
Yet V1 is also less aggressive then V2?
You noted that you did not switch to V1 as you didn't want a less aggressive mod yet I thought you mentioned V1 is only for Auto but you drive a Manual car?

I'm sorry I think I miss read or did not understand what you meant to say!
Where did you find 2.02? Does it feel smoother then 2.01 Map?

[E90Vader]

Can I get them directly from the site, or do I require emailing them?
What email address should I send it to, I'm sure many other users are wondering this as well?

[caradd]

So after another day of driving on 2.02 I'm noticing the same surge as 2.01. It is not has dramatic though. The difference I think is there is more power before the surge and when the surge hits the power is more gradual.

Here is a log I did. I push the pedal down around 45% and from the log the throttle is going full. I've done throttle position live logs with the BT tool and I was pretty accurate with 4%, so I know what my foot is doing.

2 weird things I've noticed with the Cobb logs. Full throttle is equal to 80% and TPS Requested follows actual.

My Procede logs 100% throttle showed 100%. Requested throttle was accurate.

[gboop]

That's disappointing.
I did a few logs on 2.01 yesterday and found the same throttle behaviour but with a steeper ramp-up of boost than what you show above.

It's almost impossible for me to get the throttle position to read 40% 50% or 60% for any sustained period of time.

It's probably a premature question, but could there be some (temporary?) technical COBB AP limitation that prevents more granular and gradual boost to throttle mapping?

[caradd]

Originally Posted by gboop

That's disappointing.
I did a few logs on 2.01 yesterday and found the same throttle behaviour but with a steeper ramp-up of boost than what you show above.

I'm not surprised at all that your getting that with the 2.01 map.

Originally Posted by gboop

It's probably a premature question, but could there be some (temporary?) technical COBB AP limitation that prevents more granular and gradual boost to throttle mapping?

I don't know, the 2.00 maps didn't have this behavior.

[bkrM3]

The surge on the "normal" 2.02 map is to be expected, I think, based on Rob's description of the 2.02 alternates. He said the 2.02 update: "[a]dds two alternate throttle mapping versions designed to suit multiple driver preferences and transmission types. Both versions add linearity to accelerator pedal; v2 is more aggressive than v1 at low RPM and may be preferable for 6MT-equipped cars, though both versions are safe for all transmission types. All maps receive slight revisions to ignition timing."

Because there are 3 maps - namely, "normal," v1 and v2 - and he only discusses alternate throttle mapping on the latter, I'd think 2.02 would be a whole lot like 2.01 in terms of surge...

I'm going to give them a try over the weekend, starting with v2...

[vasillalov]

I have Beta 2.02 maps loaded on my AP. I will do some extensive testing over the course of the next few days and the weekend and I will report back here. GIAC currently has the most driveable flash tune out there, but it took them a long time to get to that point. I am confident COBB will get there as well. I used to have GIAC so I know how the car used to behave. I will know immediately when Cobb reaches the same level...

Don't get disappointed people. Cobb has a great system for delivering updates. The more we drive those cars, the more they will refine the maps.

[vasillalov]

Also,

As a side note: Every time you change the map with your AP, you are deleting all ECU adaptations. I verified this with Cobb! So when you change maps, I highly recommend that you do some extensive driving and not just around the block.

[ironman1982]

How are all of you getting these beta maps? I have AP Manager set to get beta firmware etc. but it still only shows 2.01 maps. I also don't see them available on their site. I PM'd Robb and Lance/Travis's username and haven't received a response on where to get them. Is there a site you can point me to or can I PM one of you my email and have you forward the email from Cobb with the maps over to me?

I would be most appreciative fellas!

Thanks

[bkrM3]

Originally Posted by ironman1982

How are all of you getting these beta maps? I have AP Manager set to get beta firmware etc. but it still only shows 2.01 maps. I also don't see them available on their site. I PM'd Robb and Lance/Travis's username and haven't received a response on where to get them. Is there a site you can point me to or can I PM one of you my email and have you forward the email from Cobb with the maps over to me?

I would be most appreciative fellas!

Thanks

You need the right ones for your ECU. Easiest way to get them is just to email Cobb. Might take them a day or so to get back to you!

[ironman1982]

Originally Posted by bkr335

You need the right ones for your ECU. Easiest way to get them is just to email Cobb. Might take them a day or so to get back to you!

Yeah, I included my ECU (IJEOS) with 6AT in my PM yesterday morning. What email address are all of you using to contact them?

Thanks

Edit: I am using tech@cobbtuning.com to contact them and referencing this thread. Hopefully, they can get them to me by this weekend!

[vasillalov]

Originally Posted by caradd

My Procede logs 100% throttle showed 100%. Requested throttle was accurate.

I am able to pick up from various threads on here that Procede actually does not spit out correct information except for boost. The Procede data logging is actually lieing to you..

[caradd]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

I am able to pick up from various threads on here that Procede actually does not spit out correct information except for boost. The Procede data logging is actually lieing to you..

I did read a recent thread on here regarding inaccurate logging info. I think it was regarding AFR lean spikes. Shiv explained the reason why. However it is not the first time I've seen Shiv do this. Made me wonder why have that specific log if it is not accurate?

My actual throttle log though was dead on. It even picked up when I hit some bumps on the road.

As far as the tune itself, I've had the JB+, JB3/4, Procede V4/5 and Cobb AP. I prefer the feel of the Procede. I did adjust the throttle settings thought when I had it.

The Cobb Maps to me are really all over the place. I'm curious to see what you think of the 2.02 V2 map. It is suppose to be more linear, I found it to have no power until close to full throttle. Then the power came on slowly.

So far I prefer the 2.00 map.