Full-Race Twin Scroll Turbo Kit in Development

Young_Man · 12-19-2011, 08:05 PM

I am happier than I've ever been right now.

Brey335i · 12-19-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ttbmer

I don't get it. What's the point of making a turbo kit and not go into production?

I don't know... I just read this and never heard anything different:

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

This is not an available product. This is just an in-house test at this point. If you were to wait for a single turbo option, you're wait would be very long at this point.

rader1 · 12-19-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brey335i

I don't know... I just read this and never heard anything different:

I thought i remember shiv saying he'd have a single turbo up and running within a couple weeks... months ago

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 12-19-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brey335i

I don't know... I just read this and never heard anything different:

Keyword "At this point"

Soon enough guys... soon enough. Too many Holidays in the way makes things go slower then expected.

vasillalov · 12-19-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydive

Tuning isn't a problem.

As with any DI motor, fuel is the limiting factor once you set out to exceed 85ish hp per cylinder. At Aviva, we believe we can solve this problem in a simple, elegant, cost effective manner in keeping with the original design, but without its limitations.

No offense, but this is much easier said than done. This community has seen way too many examples of tuner companies and individuals claim just that and end up producing nothing but hype.

Like I said before: I remain unimpressed till some one shows us videos, dynos and videos of dynos of fully running N54 car with single turbo kit.

Brey335i · 12-19-2011, 11:26 PM

Well, at least this time we're seeing pictures along the way. Props to Shiv for actually providing some juicy details of this build. He shouldn't have an issue with tuning either.

To be honest, I prefer his manifold to the HPF one, but I'm looking forward to seeing the other companies come to the market too.

Skydive · 12-19-2011, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vasillalov

No offense, but this is much easier said than done. This community has seen way too many examples of tuner companies and individuals claim just that and end up producing nothing but hype.

Like I said before: I remain unimpressed till some one shows us videos, dynos and videos of dynos of fully running N54 car with single turbo kit.

No offense taken. You are right to remain a sceptic, just as we believe we are on the path to a correct resolution. Frankly, there are only two kinds of viable solutions to the fuel conundrum, and we have chosen the one that we believe will provide the more consistant result. By the same token, this is clearly becoming competitive market, and we prefer to let our competitors do their own research. So, we remain quiet where details are concerned.

-Michael

ETS Michael · 12-20-2011, 01:04 AM

Won't be long until we start seeing threads with images like this.

EX: ETS Supra Kit. [Not N54]

bmwm3redblack · 12-20-2011, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Questforpower

On a 6 cylinder motor? LOL, why do you say that?

With a proper twin scroll turbo; you can have a fantastic powerband with that powerlevel; even Evos do with a 2.0L displacement.

+1 a proper twin scroll turbo +n54=wide powerband

ar design III · 12-20-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vasillalov

Again: hardware is not the problem. Tuning is. I choose to remain unimpressed until I see an N54 with single turbo ACTUALLY on the road....

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Originally Posted by vasillalov

No offense, but this is much easier said than done. This community has seen way too many examples of tuner companies and individuals claim just that and end up producing nothing but hype.

Like I said before: I remain unimpressed till some one shows us videos, dynos and videos of dynos of fully running N54 car with single turbo kit.

She will live again some day

It's possible and somebody will have a running, ironed out example by the end of 2012

hamburglar · 12-20-2011, 11:46 AM

Had Full-Race in the Acura and it was top notch. It was my third and final turbo kit for that car, lol. 601WHP

rader1 · 12-20-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chris @ ar design

She will live again some day

It's possible and somebody will have a running, ironed out example by the end of 2012

So, you did a single turbo build on a lease car and at the end of the lease you just abandoned the project? You had a single turbo kit up and running and your problem was just getting the tuning nailed down(as i clearly remember) and then you decided "nahh, fuck it"? Rather than getting a reputable tuner(shiv, GIAC, OE etc) involved and getting it sorted?

rader1 · 12-20-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cynical

^^ yea what u didn't kno?
They like the weather.... When it rains, it Pours- But trying to predict whats coming and when is impossible.
Same thing with AR

Ohh yeah, i knew. I'd just like to point out that AR "had" a single turbo up and running but just decided to do nothing with it... kind of odd. Fitment/tuning issues could've been easily sorted by now.

Fred_Boosted · 12-20-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lulz_M3

LoL, is this guy serious?! Single turbo conversion and street legal dont belong in the same sentence, or paragraph, hell not even the same thread.

Don't be surpirsed if some day it is legal.

bimmerboy · 12-20-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rader1

So, you did a single turbo build on a lease car and at the end of the lease you just abandoned the project? You had a single turbo kit up and running and your problem was just getting the tuning nailed down(as i clearly remember) and then you decided "nahh, fuck it"? Rather than getting a reputable tuner(shiv, GIAC, OE etc) involved and getting it sorted?

+1

AR- could you please elaborate on why this has been placed on the back-burner??

Q4P · 12-20-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rader1

So, you did a single turbo build on a lease car and at the end of the lease you just abandoned the project? You had a single turbo kit up and running and your problem was just getting the tuning nailed down(as i clearly remember) and then you decided "nahh, fuck it"? Rather than getting a reputable tuner(shiv, GIAC, OE etc) involved and getting it sorted?

This is how I understand it as well. lol

Someone didn't think the idea through.

soulja620 · 12-20-2011, 05:11 PM

I Just came

Full Race is TITS...

Right here in PHX too, been there before... legit

nafoo · 12-20-2011, 06:44 PM

Just confirmed with Jon Guerra at Full-Race that the N54 project will be worked on in 2012.

This is something that will be worked on next year, still got some projects to wrap up, but it's on the "TO DO" list.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:34 PM, wrote:
Are you guys working on a twinscroll, single turbo kit for the BMW N54?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...72813&page=141

"hey Ian - Full-Race is working to develop a twinscroll, single turbo kit for the N54 engines. i tried to contact you but can not send PM's or leave messages becuase my post count isnt high enough. If you could, please shoot me an email to geoff [at]full-race[dot]com thank you"

Just trying to find out if this is true or not. Thanks!

ar design III · 12-20-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerboy

+1

AR- could you please elaborate on why this has been placed on the back-burner??

The tuning was pretty well sorted out. Lease was up so had to return and don't have a car to put the single kit back on and continue development.

Will335i · 12-20-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chris @ ar design

The tuning was pretty well sorted out. Lease was up so had to return and don't have a car to put the single kit back on and continue development.

Umm you can use my car!!

Brey335i · 12-20-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chris @ ar design

The tuning was pretty well sorted out. Lease was up so had to return and don't have a car to put the single kit back on and continue development.

I'll be in Denver this Friday. I'll take that off your hands

Dieselmd · 02-08-2012, 09:01 PM

Bumping up an old thread. Geoff, post up please?

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nafoo Major 48 Rep 1,145 Posts Drives: Boosted Bimmer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	Just confirmed with Jon Guerra at Full-Race that the N54 project will be worked on in 2012. This is something that will be worked on next year, still got some projects to wrap up, but it's on the "TO DO" list. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:34 PM, wrote: Are you guys working on a twinscroll, single turbo kit for the BMW N54? http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...72813&page=141 "hey Ian - Full-Race is working to develop a twinscroll, single turbo kit for the N54 engines. i tried to contact you but can not send PM's or leave messages becuase my post count isnt high enough. If you could, please shoot me an email to geoff [at]full-race[dot]com thank you" Just trying to find out if this is true or not. Thanks!
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